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[Daedroth]

So, I recently found out about this project and got excited.

Installed everything, registered, checked the wiki for advice and started playing (Mother of god, traveling's a bitch)...Once I arrived in the Hub, which I believe is quite near the newbie spawn, I was greeted with the message of having committed a crime. Confused, I kept walking and after getting around a bit in the Hub I got smacked by another newbie, the guards not protecting me because I had apparently done something wrong when I entered the hub.

I'm just assuming that's a glitch, though. But I also have another issue:

I noticed from reading the forums that this game's MP-aspect is brutal². And actually, I get the feeling that to get around in the game proper, you'd have to either know a few people or you're fucked real bad.

Could I at least get some advice about the best way to start? I read the wiki (Which does not quite state just how vicious FOnline is) and wanted to try crafting, only to find that it's very hard to get into it proper without receiving some massive ass-reaming by other players...Not to mention (again) I feel like my character has crippling agoraphobia and proceeds to crawl, face in the sand, across the wastelands.

I greatly appreciate advice about how to get started from people who are "in it", so to speak. After all, he wiki never mentions much about player habits that might make certain places safe/unsafe.

[Boon Lived]

Some good tips:

Get caps from Shit Shoveling (near entrance) and save them in the bank.

Or try and get 10 Brahmin Hides so you can make a tent (makes things ALOT easier!), i hear there are some good spots around the Hub.

If someone is touching you, they could be healing you, or STEALING you. watch out.

Blue-suits with a SMG is something you might want to avoid. Most of them kill you if you have good items with you.

Turn-Based is a good idea if your starting out. it may take longer, but it's alot easier.
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As for the 'bug', maybe you were there earlier? and if another newbie hit you, they KNOW  WHAT YOU DID

[Daedroth]

Some good tips:

Get caps from Shit Shoveling (near entrance) and save them in the bank.

Or try and get 10 Brahmin Hides so you can make a tent (makes things ALOT easier!), i hear there are some good spots around the Hub.

If someone is touching you, they could be healing you, or STEALING you. watch out.

Blue-suits with a SMG is something you might want to avoid. Most of them kill you if you have good items with you.

Turn-Based is a good idea if your starting out. it may take longer, but it's alot easier.
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As for the 'bug', maybe you were there earlier? and if another newbie hit you, they KNOW  WHAT YOU DID

Like I said, I JUST walked in there. It was my first time, admittedly not under this name. I instantly see the red message in the lower left about having committed a crime. I then walked around doing a few things recommended in the wiki, then suddenly I got randomly smacked by blue-suit with some sort of spear-like weapon. IIRC, the hit was critical, 51 damage and I died instantly.

[Boon Lived]

Perhaps you came to the Hub, did something bad and he saw you/was a victim, you left, came back, he found you, he killed you.

Or it could just be a bug.
Iv'e died in town being unprotected, and had come back, to be still unprotected.

[Daedroth]

I did not start playing this game since yesterday evening, which was when it happened. I haven't been anywhere yet. Only the newbie spawn point and the Hub. What I just told you is what happened the very first time I went to The Hub and I haven't been playing since, because right after that I quit due to frustration.

Thanks for bothering to reply, though.

[Boon Lived]

because right after that I quit due to frustration

Just because of bad luck, doesn't mean you should give up.
I've been killed hundreds of times, and im still around.
you just gotta watch your back.

[Reginmund]

unprotected in the very first time entering a town is strange indeed. you should put up a report on the bugs section about it plus any other circumstances.

If you will be playing this game mostly alone then it would be advisable to try level up and place skillpoints to outdoorsman so can move relatively faster and avoid encounters safe or otherwise. Turn based combat setting is recommended but don't go venturing east towards necropolis otherwise you may encounter some really really really slow combat/escape.

[Daedroth]

Just because of bad luck, doesn't mean you should give up.
I've been killed hundreds of times, and im still around.
you just gotta watch your back.

I don't know why I did not make a screenshot this (I really should have, I seem to have the worst luck in this game's history), but here goes.
I just made a character with 10 agi and 10 luck for kicks. Obviously not a good build, but I wanted to see how that'd work out.

It didn't. It failed far worse than I could possibly imagine:

I lasted about 1,5 minutes...I tried getting to the NCR from my spawn (Didn't think there'd be several ones), encountered a group of small radscorpions after 2 seconds of travel and was killed because I couldn't make it to the edge. What makes me especially frustrated is that despite having 10 agility and 10 luck, I died by 1-hit-crit-KO because there was a radscorpion hiding near some trees near the edge I ran to.


I really want to love this game. I really do. But it doesn't want to love me.

[Boon Lived]

Get a tent, put your stuff in it and don't carry too much with you at one time, and you'll get by.

[Reginmund]

if there is anybody around then you could try to ask them to take you to NCR or stay put in the nearest town and I could come and pick you up.
Don't worry about losing the things you begin with, just try to get a tent and everything can take its time from there.

[Daedroth]

Yeah, well, not getting very far here at all...

Did some shit shovelling and crate lifting (can't repeat this quest for 13 hours? Really? Not even for a lesser reward?), put the money in the bank, traded the shovel for a knife, tried finding some resources (Don't have enough first aid to make weak healing powder...)Haven't found much, the stuff I DID find I couldn't sell because the barter menu doesn't show up. Talk menu works fine, barter window doesn't. Tried both through dialog and direct bartering, didn't work.

Also, I believe I might have encountered a problem...In order to get flint (where IS that, anyway?) to make a primitive tool, I need to mine it...with a primitive tool? I can't use a sledge because my strength is 4...So now what? I wanted to gather resources but this game sure stacks the difficulty against you.

[Reginmund]

flint can be found on the ground within maps you enter on the worldmap

to fix the barter problem close both the game and launcher, then open the game up again. typically happens when you have things to trade and the timer runs out.

[Boon Lived]

the barter menu doesn't show up.

Log out, Restart the client, log back in.

(don't forget your char remains for 2 mins after you log out)

...In order to get flint (where IS that, anyway?) to make a primitive tool, I need to mine it...with a primitive tool?

Nope. Flint can be found just about anywhere.

I can't use a sledge because my strength is 4

Wrong. You can use it as a weapon,but with reduced accuracy.
You can, however, mine just like as if you had 4 strength. it doesn't affect that.

[Daedroth]

I'm pretty sure the "no infuence for actual mining" isn't mentioned anywhere...Thanks for telling me though. Also, I've looked around quite a bit and haven't found any flint yet...I keep trying. I find that the NCR is a better place to start, actually.

[Boon Lived]

I've looked around quite a bit and haven't found any flint yet...I keep trying

Try the square below NCR. they look like little rocks.