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[sander]

Subject says for itself.

The way I see it:
(At first we need to add couple of buildings inside or outside each city.)
Leader of faction speaks with some NPC, this NPC offers e.g. tent, small building and large building.

Tent
Just a tent , like Buster has.
- costs 100 000 caps + 5 000 caps weekly (rent + shopkeeper salary)
- space for 2 guards
- 2 locked crates - 1 for cash and 1 for items

Small building
Just like any bank building
- costs 200 000 caps + 10 000 caps weekly
- space for 4 guards
- has locked vault room for stuff

Large building
- costs 350 000 caps + 20 000 caps weekly
- space for 6 guards
- has locked vault room for stuff

Building cost & rent should vary from town to town (should be very cheap in unprotected towns)

Then leader chooses which guards to hire (also "no guards, please" is an option too). Guards occupy all guard slots and you should pay  for them too(if you pay 500 caps per week for guards in tent, you should pay 1000 caps for same guards in small building due to the number of guards ). Ofc guards should have a lot of hp and should be sg/ew snipers (no exploding or bursting weapon).

The leader of a faction(or one of the important members) must pay weekly (rent & guards' salary should come in one bill) , otherwise shop will be closed after 1 day waiting period.

After paying the bill(to the NPC, which sold you a building), the NPC should offer to change guards (to cheaper or better ones).

Trading process
In each shop there shuold be 1 container for stuff. Faction members can put here anything, that would be immediately transported to the shopkeeper for sale.

From each transaction shopkeeper "puts" half of money income to the vault.

Also there probably should be some methods of changing shopkeeper's trading policy (e.g. Leader of a faction can say: "don't buy big guns", which will set all BG buing price to 0, or "store all miniguns in the vault", which will force shopkeeper to "put" all miniguns in locked container, apart from caps) and price policy (e.g. "sell all small guns for 2\3 of price" or "buy all Rockets for 2x price" to get what you need and stimulate economics - players would be able to sell unnecessary ammunition for bigger price and buy necessary for lower)

Guards' policy
-holstered weapon in shop is allowed only for faction members.
-all detected thieves are shot(probably no corpse looting for this guards), no chasing if the thief leaves the shop.
-everybody, who tries to get in vault(except Leader of a faction or important members) are shot immediately.
-vault doors open when the leader asks shopkeeper to do so

To avoid abusing all NPCs in shop should be neutral or should belong to current town's faction.
And yes, the shop can be robbed, but the robbers should be able to neutralize all shop guards plus all town guards that will be attracted by shooting, also the robbers should have a good lockpicker as  the higher rent - the safer are locks in the shop.

All prices are for illustrative purposes only.
Well, that's it.

P.S.: Sry for terrible English.

Note: Buildings are not literary sold, u just need to pay (100k, 200k etc.) 1 time to "open" the shop... If you stop paying rent - you'll have 1 day to take everything away, otherwise all your stuff will disappear and the building will become avialiable for any faction to buy.

[VAULTB0Y]

like the general idea, but dont like it to be so much faction orientated (faction faction everywhere faction  )....

so +1 as long as it will be available to loners too 

[sander]

...faction orientated...

I want it to be faction-oriented (or at least very expensive) because of bad hotel experience - lots of players can afford it, but there's almost always no free rooms.

[Michaelh139]

It shouldn't be robbable period.  Why?  Because none of the npc shops are robbable.  Sorry.  

BUT!!!!!

I am lovin everything else, its simply awesome.  but yeah, it shouldn't be only faction oriented.  Loner need love too.(due to recent post)
Of course... how would we implement this on the map?  I believe there is only one solution:

A map around each town SPECIFICALLY designed to spawn traders (and if possible shop buildings around traders but afaik it is not possible) simply have one chest, put items in there, etc, talk to npc about settings and everything goes in the chest no mater what.  

Also why the hell would the shopkeeper need half of the caps made if he's already on a salary?

Anyways, good idea, probably not possible though, needs some changes.

P.s. if it must be, only for factions, then so be it, we would love this anyways.  

[sander]

...Also why the hell would the shopkeeper need half of the caps made if he's already on a salary?...

I meant he puts some caps in vault to assure that there are always some cash in the shop.(you can take it at any time, shopkeeper just don't trade with other players for money or weaponz that are put in vault)

AND
I don't suggest to create buldings dynamically - I suggest to add 3-4 buildings in each town so there will be fixed amount of buildings, or just to add "trading quarters" location to each town(with fixed amount of rentable buildings).

[Reginmund]

sounds good but what if you implement a speech dialog option so the hired vendor can tell the player specific types of merchandise they are looking to trade for and those they don't accept.

Also they could say if they are paying a higher price for said merchandise (specific amount debatable but i suppose you could check whilst you barter with it anyway).

[avv]

Having 24/7 service selling things we actually need for exchange to what they need would totally help testing how player driven economy would turn out.

[Rebirth]

thumbs up for player-driver economy since the npc's one is damn poor

[Ulrek]

There is a slightly easier (Perhaps) way of setting up a un-lootable shot keeper.

Make a box in a faction base, and have what in that box show up as buyable at the factions vendors, since most big players have enough buy to at least buy a cave base, and than could kick the other members out.

This way, your intro fee in to being a trader is the base, and the slaves/mercs, and the traders can be shoot, but not looted. since all the items are still at the faction base. leaving only the guards posted as worth attacking.

-Ulrek-

[runboy93]

It would be nice to see player buildings in wasteland and +1 more to this idea.

[Dr. Wasteland]

Player shops! +1

[OskaRus]

Any type of auction would be great! +1

[AyatollahRockinROller]

I like this idea, but would like to have craftable player shops that use tons of materials. Then a weekly fee would have to be paid to the npc for upkeep. At least 10000 caps I'd say.

[Who Killed Bambi]

low prices for shops, lot of people can buy each, i think more than 1kk needed to tent thats make some balance

[runboy93]

Or better
Shopkeeper make prices.