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Stealing out of control ! Tighten the leash...

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wezu:
The problem is that some (most?) player are, in Layman's terms, 'arsholes'. If a feature is abusable it will be abused.
Nerfing it is pointless as long as there's a shadow of a chance to annoy someone and get away with it (causing yet more grief) then people will do it. Anything you can think of to stop people form spamming steal can be negated just by making another alt. Timers, cooldowns, limits, penalties, rep drop, etc. all pointless.   

Maybe blocking stealing from players that barter or talk to NPC would make a change, but probably not.

Live with it or move North, you can always shoot a thief there, you can even shoot people that you just suspect being a thief, hell you can shoot anybody (but then again anybody can shoot you, there's anarchy for you). 

Floodnik:

--- Quote ---How can the game have a basic economy going if you can't even shop at an npc without being killed or robbed ?
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Oh, so you can't? I'm sorry for you. Dunno how is that you can't, since 90% population can, well, not my problem.

avv:

--- Quote from: wezu on December 09, 2010, 06:17:02 PM ---The problem is that some (most?) player are, in Layman's terms, 'arsholes'. If a feature is abusable it will be abused.
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Actually the problem is that thievery is almost like abuse or grief the way players use it. Since it mostly just annoys people but doesn't provide that good benefits compared to alternatives.

Thievery shouldn't have the reputation of abuse but normal gameplay, but that's not gonna happen with current mechanics. 

HertogJan:

--- Quote from: avv on December 09, 2010, 04:45:01 PM ---Except that rep isn't particularly working feature either. You can wave it back and forth by selling crap in shops and then committing crimes. Lol you could actually steal stuff and then sell it for rep.

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I must be doing something wrong than.
Recently my thief alt did a lot of trading in Junktown, the only rep increase that alt had was from staying logged out for a day.
No rep increase visible.

Your suggestion about reporting thievery to lawkeepers simply means people steal till there rep is -1500 than move to another town. When there rep is bad everywhere they simply use ~deleteself and start all over again.
Another thing is that it will lead to thieves cooperating and using steal together. You go figure who actually stole something.
Not the mention the none Russians among us will have a problem with the cyrillic names which makes it abuseable.

It's the players complaining about thievery who give it a bad reputation.
Together with the players, and many aren't thieves, who pretend to use steal on people just to harass them.

Reginmund:
So what's stopping the merchants from having their own merc/guard who when spotting an unsuccessful thief attempt on somebody engaged with the vendor will thereby shoot the thief. I mean the guy is losing business here if the thief is just going to run off with the stuff and maybe sell it later.

But i do see a problem in that although it might stop someone from solo thieving, nothing is going to stop him/her from bringing a friend and again it's only if the guard spots it too so very competent thieves will get away with it, or lucky ones.

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