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[kraskish]

So basically, with about 120 outdoors you can farm encounter for stuff, ok. But when people have rep -300 or -10 000 it doesnt really matter. In fact, if there was some bad-o-meter, forces of a faction would in fact direct more forces to destroy particular enemy.

I suggest making some script that would progressively would make encounters bigger for the worst enemies and would require higher outdoorsman to avoid the lower the rep is at that faction.

[Eternauta]

Sounds interesting, good idea.

[vilaz]

Good idea.

It remind me situation from "Fallout":NV when NCR and Caesar hated me. Both sent their killers (Rangers and assassains) against me and in result of killed each other. :>

[avv]

Does someone here honestly claim that he can defeat rangers, hub patrol or vc patrol alone in real time with good odds?

[RavenousRat]

Does someone here honestly claim that he can defeat rangers, hub patrol or vc patrol alone in real time with good odds?

Yes, I can kill Hub patrol with smg and bluesuit, they have low HP and dying with 1-2 eyes shots each and don't like to burst. Never tried VC patrols and rangers, because I don't see a reason.

[Tankboy]

i kill san fran caravans in RT ,. up to 5 of em, includng the LSW lady,. so yeah it should be easy

[avv]

I have honestly hard time to beleave that there are people farming tougher patrols alone in face to face confrontations (6 vs 1). Okay if you got BA, minigun and some buffs you could just quickly burst even 6 sf dudes but even then there's the lucky crit chance.

[runboy93]

I like this suggestion
I just want to see big encounter that got: Rangers, Hub patrol and Brotherhood Patrols
And of course lonely elite that defeat them all

[RavenousRat]

I have honestly hard time to beleave that there are people farming tougher patrols alone in face to face confrontations (6 vs 1). Okay if you got BA, minigun and some buffs you could just quickly burst even 6 sf dudes but even then there's the lucky crit chance.

Who said about 6?
I can confront 3 muties, if I will have atleast any good crit burst (usually it is), 1st mutie will die instantly, second with laser rifle will start to walk away (actually it was long time ago, or it's random, because last time I tried, he shot me instantly), 3rd with flamer is useless, if with RL, then he'll even help you with splash damage to his friends.
Well everything is dependant on luck, some raider with mauser can knock me out 10 times in a row, but I can kill 3 muties alone in bluesuit and smg. Laser mutie can kill me instantly with 1 shot. I can burst them all on 450+ damage with few bursts. It's all random. I don't fear anything, because losing deteriorated SMG + ~60 10mm bullets is nothing.
Against Hub patrol, it's easy just stand and shoot thier eyes, 1-2 shot and he is dead, repeat. They can kill you with 1 K.O. or they won't hurt you much at all, if all shots will be non critical.

[avv]

It's all random. I don't fear anything, because losing deteriorated SMG + ~60 10mm bullets is nothing.
Against Hub patrol, it's easy just stand and shoot thier eyes, 1-2 shot and he is dead, repeat. They can kill you with 1 K.O. or they won't hurt you much at all, if all shots will be non critical.

Alright, there we have it. For a moment I thought there are people who just wipe out harder patrols 1 vs 6 like it was nothing. The point here was that if the current encounters set big enough challenge, there hardly is need to raise the ammount of patrolmen even against vilified chars. Especially when the encounters are pretty much pointless for anything else than farming. What's it worth if someone dies to an encounter? The encounter doesn't need your stuff because it ceases from existing when you die and respawn. I've been instablasted by unity over ten times and there's no point in it at all. A script just says that they want to kill me and that's that. 
Neither does the faction become any weaker even if you kill billion patrolmen. So until there's more point in encounters we could start thinking their difficulty level.

[kraskish]

Avv I meant, that it doesnt matter what your rep is and you will always encounter from 3 to 8 NPCs, I dont mean to raise the number to 15 or whatever. I wanted to say that the lesser rep you have the bigger chance there is for you to encounter NPC full pack (8 ) and being harder to omit, meaning that they are hunting for you :>. This would be some consequence to reputation, it doesnt matter if you have -300 or -10k. This suggestion would change this :> make some consequence in the wasteland

[Surf]

Yay, even more loot for the bigger troublemakers! They just raise their negative rep with faction XY, wait till the caravans etc. get bigger and just make a radio distress call to get their buddies there for even bigger loot.

Bad suggestion.

[kraskish]

Yay, even more loot for the bigger troublemakers! They just raise their negative rep with faction XY, wait till the caravans etc. get bigger and just make a radio distress call to get their buddies there for even bigger loot.

Bad suggestion.

So youre saying there shouldnt be any consequence for extreme low rep?

i know you can farm with friends but if you go around with 5 friends and encounter 3 ... this is easy, while 8 (or whatever the full pack is) would give some harder resistance, and anyway would sometimes be a lethal experience for group members all with 1CH trying to get to the fight site as the encounter chance would increase the lower the rep.

Not to mention while travelling alone.

OR

You could encounter such NPCs packs outside its normal territory, serving as assassins


EDIT: With friends or not you can farm stuff anyway, regardless of the random size of the encounter. The fewer the better for solo/group. THe bigger the harder for both.

[Slaver Snipe]

I was just thinking, the suggestions isn't bad but it could be abused like solar said, maybe the radio should be altered in how it works so the amount of people able to see the encounter relies on one of the special stats or outdoorsman (if you can't accurately describe where you are how do they find you?)

[Michaelh139]

Does someone here honestly claim that he can defeat rangers, hub patrol or vc patrol alone in real time with good odds?

I farm them all the time with my mercenaries...  free caws and combat shotguns for everyone!