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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2010, 07:38:51 pm »

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If players want to spend thier entire day just clicking for sex options from different women nothing stops them.  They should not get bonuses for it.

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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2010, 07:42:09 pm »

Wtf sex is not some teen dream, it's everyday life. Having such an advanced options in our game would really make it stand out and provide some extra manlyness and feel of harsness in a way. I don't know why isn't it implemented already, since fallout 2 had it and it's not very uneasy thing to withness compared to blasting someone to chunks with rocket launcher, or burning someone alive with flamer.

Yeah maybe cluless idiot raiders like the Khans might.  Folks with intelligence and wisdom arn't consumed by their most de-based desires.  I understand the need for food and water because those are the building blocks of life.  And yes sex is an intergral part of life and its continuation.  However, I would prefer to not trivialize sex by encouraging players to do it through bonuses (especially when its hardly realistic).  Just leave the option of sex available without benefits.  Exactly the same as the orignal Fallout did.  If players want to spend thier entire day just clicking for sex options from different women nothing stops them.  They should not get bonuses for it.

Actually in the past times popes, kings and emperors used to have many wifes and used their intelligence and power to fuck whenever they wanted whoever they wanted. So just because they are smart and powerful it doesn't take away their basic instincts. Sex is a pleasure just like drugs, booze and delicious food which powerful people have enjoyed through the course of history. Having a gorgeus wife is also a status symbol to show off with, many wifes are even better.

Wasteland is fucked up and savage place so sex and rape would suit it fine. So how could it be implemented ingame? It could be a way for speech-builds to compensate their weaknesses.

- Low cha dudes have to pay for sex. Higher cha guys can try to attempt flirt with female npcs at bars. Fucking player chars would be too abusable so that could be made impossible. The flirting could be basically a minigame where you had to pick the right choices to succeed. Good speech, cha and certain perks could all provide additional options.This way a good cha build would basically be under constant sex-buffs to compensate his high cha-related investments.

- Female cha-built chars could secude male npcs and use them to work for her. Then pay with sex (free) and when they don't need the companions anymore, leave them.

- Sex bonuses would come with a delay because it's tiresome work. So first the char could be weakened and could suffer stat loss, but receive boost to them like 20mins later because of good mood. Sex could also reduce cooldowns, because nothing beats sex after work.

- Female pc chars could be raped with same effects as normal sex for the rapist but it would give long weakness to the female char after respawn. This weakness couldn't be fixed with doctor. It would make playing as female char more harsh, but wasteland is more harsh to women. Especially for the ones who decide to fight with men.

- To rape someone you have to beat him down to dying state and then perform the rape.  Certain factions wouldn't accept rape and raping could achieve a rapist perk. So that some anti-schauvinism feminists get to hunt him down.

- We could have an award for the player who's got laid most often.

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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2010, 08:04:12 pm »

Yeah maybe cluless idiot raiders like the Khans might.  Folks with intelligence and wisdom arn't consumed by their most de-based desires.  I understand the need for food and water because those are the building blocks of life.  And yes sex is an intergral part of life and its continuation.  However, I would prefer to not trivialize sex by encouraging players to do it through bonuses (especially when its hardly realistic).  Just leave the option of sex available without benefits.  Exactly the same as the orignal Fallout did.  If players want to spend thier entire day just clicking for sex options from different women nothing stops them.  They should not get bonuses for it.
Ever watched A Boy and His Dog?
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2010, 08:15:59 pm »

Wtf sex is not some teen dream, it's everyday life. Having such an advanced options in our game would really make it stand out and provide some extra manlyness and feel of harsness in a way. I don't know why isn't it implemented already, since fallout 2 had it and it's not very uneasy thing to withness compared to blasting someone to chunks with rocket launcher, or burning someone alive with flamer.

Actually in the past times popes, kings and emperors used to have many wifes and used their intelligence and power to fuck whenever they wanted whoever they wanted. So just because they are smart and powerful it doesn't take away their basic instincts. Sex is a pleasure just like drugs, booze and delicious food which powerful people have enjoyed through the course of history. Having a gorgeus wife is also a status symbol to show off with, many wifes are even better.

Wasteland is fucked up and savage place so sex and rape would suit it fine. So how could it be implemented ingame? It could be a way for speech-builds to compensate their weaknesses.

- Low cha dudes have to pay for sex. Higher cha guys can try to attempt flirt with female npcs at bars. Fucking player chars would be too abusable so that could be made impossible. The flirting could be basically a minigame where you had to pick the right choices to succeed. Good speech, cha and certain perks could all provide additional options.This way a good cha build would basically be under constant sex-buffs to compensate his high cha-related investments.

- Female cha-built chars could secude male npcs and use them to work for her. Then pay with sex (free) and when they don't need the companions anymore, leave them.

- Sex bonuses would come with a delay because it's tiresome work. So first the char could be weakened and could suffer stat loss, but receive boost to them like 20mins later because of good mood. Sex could also reduce cooldowns, because nothing beats sex after work.

- Female pc chars could be raped with same effects as normal sex for the rapist but it would give long weakness to the female char after respawn. This weakness couldn't be fixed with doctor. It would make playing as female char more harsh, but wasteland is more harsh to women. Especially for the ones who decide to fight with men.

- To rape someone you have to beat him down to dying state and then perform the rape.  Certain factions wouldn't accept rape and raping could achieve a rapist perk. So that some anti-schauvinism feminists get to hunt him down.

- We could have an award for the player who's got laid most often.


Dude, youre watching too much po... TV  :o
Hell why not, its not bad content but I doubt we gonna see it soon ingame.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2010, 08:18:27 pm »

Ever watched A Boy and His Dog?

Best rape movie ever.
lol "Vic: We coulda used her three more times!
Blood: Ah, war is hell. "
(When lamenting the girl he wanted to rape got murdered by the last group of rapists)


@ Avv: What you can't rape men all of a sudden? Did the radiation cause assholes to evolve out of existence?
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2010, 08:27:20 pm »

@ Avv: What you can't rape men all of a sudden? Did the radiation cause assholes to evolve out of existence?

I did think of that aswell but decided to leave it out due to the post being long enough already. But now that you mention there could be gay-trait. It would make you desire the same sex, but you would be scorned by certain factions. It's hard to imagine wastlenad being very gay-friendly place. But as trade-off for being outcast, murdering gay-rapist would be the most fearsome opponent male char players would face.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2010, 08:33:00 pm »

Good to do sex possible and no matter what I it will give.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2010, 09:49:03 pm »

@Avv

ApparentlyI am not being clear so I will attempt to elaborate.

Powerful people and leaders don't spend all day in their basement jerking off to porn or just sitting around or hang out with their g/fs and wives and just fuck all d ay.  Hence my teenager comment.  People with responsibilities just do not have the time.  Does it mean they don't take a night or two to go meet women and get laid, no, they are afterall human beings.

2.  Sex can be implemented in game.  This is not the issue.  The issue is you want to turn it into a mini-game with bonuses.  Hot coffee mods belong with games like GTA NOT Fallout.  

3.  Prostitution if implemented can be handled by NPCs already.  

4.  Salvery is already implemented in game.  Be honest, how many people are going to be another players "bitch", just for the prospect of sex?  The bonueses would have to be amazing.

5.  Besides the obvious risk of alienating players, I do not see what purpose rape would play in game that is not taken care of by sex already.  Do you really expect the devs to encourage players to do a mini-game on beating up a womans face and forcing her to have sex with you?"

6.  Fonline is a game not a porno.

@John Ryder

Of course I have seen A Boy And His Dog. Can you add bring more to the discussion than sarcassm?

BTW, without that dog theat clueless idiot of a child would have died a long time ago on some fools errand.  The whole point of the story/movie is about companionship in the wastes and how difficult it is.  Just because rape is in a movie doesn't mean it has to be a porno.


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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2010, 10:18:06 am »

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2.  Sex can be implemented in game.  This is not the issue.  The issue is you want to turn it into a mini-game with bonuses.  Hot coffee mods belong with games like GTA NOT Fallout.

Sex is a basic desire so nourishing it could have some bonuses. Because the getting the bonuses would have tradeoffs, there would be balance. To prevent high cha players simply farm sex bonuses, there has to be some challenge and a minigame should do it. If it was just some pointless dialogue then we'd have exactly a stupid teenager fun feature where kids could just giggle at the dialogue options. But because fonline is more mature game, sex should be threated as it exists in real world: everyday bussiness.

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5.  Besides the obvious risk of alienating players, I do not see what purpose rape would play in game that is not taken care of by sex already.  Do you really expect the devs to encourage players to do a mini-game on beating up a womans face and forcing her to have sex with you?"

You don't have to do a mini-game for rape. All it takes is to defeat your opponent and then the raping process would be done without any requirements. It would be cheaper for low cha players to rape than pay to prostitutes.

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6.  Fonline is a game not a porno.

Just because we have sex-related features doesn't make the game porno. It's just certain people seem to be oversensitive when it comes to sex. If a gay man builds a bridge, then there are folks who will only remember that he was gay, not that he built a bridge. Just look what you wrote yourself about A boy and his dog: just because the movie had rape it doesn't make it a rape movie. Same applies to fonline.

But overall sex isn't something the game absolutely needs. There came a chance to discuss how sex could be implemented here in this thread and I used it.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2010, 10:23:25 am »

Yeah we need more sex in FALLOUT WORLD!!! I wish go to New Reno and some girls make me blow job and other sexuality wishes... ;) Support this idea.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2010, 06:29:10 pm »

@avv

OK, your comment is really serious and if we discuss this topic in a serious manner, it could lead to some cool ideas. I have to be honest, when I first read the post it made me laugh, simply because I thought it wasn't serious enough.

So we could have three options, right? Pay a prostitute, seduce or rape. Maybe if we fail to seduce someone who is not a prostitute we could offer money anyway and re-roll.

I think the "Rapist" title is not an important thing but it could add a bit of colour. And some said that it would be stupid to enslave a girl to make her your bitch, but I ask: what's wrong with adding this feature to the game? it doesn't have to be a stupid thing if the dialogue is serious and realistic.

That's the point if we want to talk about adding sex related features to the game: we should talk seriously. Because Fallout is quite a serious game, and it should remain that way.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2010, 06:33:05 pm »

We can't even have chars with the word rapist in their names so what makes anyone think the oversensitive Devs/GMs would allow us to actualy be able to rape?
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2010, 06:49:51 pm »

We can't even have chars with the word rapist in their names so what makes anyone think the oversensitive Devs/GMs would allow us to actualy be able to rape?

Maybe the Devs and GMs would pay more attention to us if we talked more seriously... or at least not call them oversensitive, or insult them.
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2010, 11:12:11 pm »

We can't even have chars with the word rapist in their names so what makes anyone think the oversensitive Devs/GMs would allow us to actualy be able to rape?

Since when? My first pvp char was named rapist
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Re: New Reno "Kitty's cats"
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2010, 11:25:15 pm »

Since when? My first pvp char was named rapist
Well they banned mine Named "TheRapist" prewipe.
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