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Author Topic: Fallout Hardcore Style?  (Read 10706 times)

Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 12:42:35 pm »

I accept your challenge! Ill try the Iron Man mode and see how far I get without dieing :) I will fraps too.

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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 07:49:19 pm »

WELL CHECK OUT THE BIG BRASS ONES ON CRIMSON.

Now I'm craving a burger, thanks a lot...
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2010, 04:32:32 am »

 ;D Well I dont know exactly how far I will go but I will use a standard sniper character build with, get this, CHARISMA! Thats right. I will play a good guy and see just how far I can take it with that build, with all the unexpected pitfalls of unlucky crits, dialogue failures, and random spawns of death. Wish me luck! I will post updates as I upload videos of my adventures. I do not know however if I should put in commentary. I will probably exclude it for now as I simply feel I am not that interesting to listen to :)
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2010, 07:35:10 pm »

So under the guidance of an NMA member, I've trebled the weight of guns, doubled the weight of armour, and reduced the amount of ammo ingame. I'm hoping this'll make for a more interesting playthrough.

I'm also trying to tweak drugs in the way Izual suggested - instant benefit and an instant penalty. So taking jet gives 2AP but makes your armour class rock bottom and damage resistance bad.

I'm thinking of making buffout increase your damage resistance/HP at the cost of action points.

Booze reduces your perception but gives you damage resistance.

Anyone got any other suggestions?

I'm trying to think of a meaningful way to encourage eating food, but I have no idea how.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 07:45:54 pm »

Well, actually, yes, but it depends if you talk about Fallout 1 or Fallout 2.

I've installed Fallout 2 with rp 1.2 few days ago and there is something that troubles me... I've got 8% in Steal skill (untagged) and I can steal everything. And I mean EVERYTHING. I am spotted maybe 20, 40% of times, which is ridiculous. I stole the 3 bozars from Buster's guards so easily that I turned off the game. Seriously, that's annoying. At NCR I had so much loot that I seriously thought about going straight to Frisco to get caps.

About Fallout 1... I don't know, I played it maybe six months ago. I can't write an accurate comment on it as I could for Fallout 2. I will install it again.

Edit : Honestly, I never used drugs, in Fallout 1 nor in Fallout 2 nor in Tactics. So changing them won't make the game harder (at least for me). About weight... Well, I really don't think it is the way to go, unless armors and pistols were ridiculously light. Reducing starting Carry Weight might be good, however.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 07:48:53 pm »

Well, actually, yes, but it depends if you talk about Fallout 1 or Fallout 2.

I've installed Fallout 2 with rp 1.2 few days ago and there is something that troubles me... I've got 8% in Steal skill (untagged) and I can steal everything. And I mean EVERYTHING. I am spotted maybe 20, 40% of times, which is ridiculous. I stole the 3 bozars from Buster's guards so easily that I turned off the game. Seriously, that's annoying. At NCR I had so much loot that I seriously thought about going straight to Frisco to get caps.

About Fallout 1... I don't know, I played it maybe six months ago. I can't write an accurate comment on it as I could for Fallout 2. I will install it again.

Edit : Honestly, I never used drugs, in Fallout 1 nor in Fallout 2 nor in Tactics. So changing them won't make the game harder (at least for me). About weight... Well, I really don't think it is the way to go, unless armors and pistols were ridiculously light. Reducing starting Carry Weight might be good, however.

Serously, install the 2.x, not the 1.2! Buster guards don't have bozar, and much less bugs, much more content!
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 07:50:03 pm »

2.0 is out ? :-\ Let's say I installed it... and... I'm off to go crying somewhere now...  :(
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 07:50:43 pm »

While you're at it, I'd encourage you to try Weapons Redone. It's my favourite weapon mod by a long shot.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2010, 07:52:42 pm »

Do you have a tutorial or something for that Badger? I'd like to change the weight of weapons ect. too.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2010, 07:54:35 pm »

No mod can get rid of the idocy in FO2, especially from mid-to endgame. I usually get bored with playing FO2 as soon as I arrive in Vault City. The rest just doesn't cut it for me, I rather play FO1.
Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2010, 08:00:51 pm »

I make it down to Reno before I run out of Steam. This actually happened on the playthrough I was planning to embark on. Fallout 2's economic balance and difficulty curve really is horrible. The struggle up to Modoc is always the most entertaining part. Once you're all well equipped with a lot of ammo, it's just fish in a barrel.

As for modding the game, I just downloaded f2wedit from NMA and pointed it at my Fallout 2 directory. I've made some changes, but I haven't tested them out yet.

Oh, but make sure you set the files to read only before you start the game, else your changes will be overwritten.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2010, 08:07:28 pm »

While you're at it, I'd encourage you to try Weapons Redone. It's my favourite weapon mod by a long shot.

I played with it a long time ago and I remember it's a very good mod, too. I'll install it, thanks for reminder !

The struggle up to Modoc is always the most entertaining part.

Totally-fockin'-agreein' !
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2010, 11:10:58 pm »

I don't know what would be required to keep that feeling throughout the game. It'd be an extensive overhaul. I can see encounter tables being the biggest problem. The further south you get, the more every hostile NPC has a decent gun. The game just throws guns at you by the time you hit Reno. Even if you don't grab them all, it feels a bit silly.

Plus, by then, you've got decent armour in stores/plenty of companions as backup. Everyone has a reasonable gun, and most shots by this point will be good old familiar 95%.

My guess is up to that point it still feels like a post-apocalyptic fight for survival. The best armour you'll have will be made out of leather, and you and your crew will most likely be wielding 10mms, shotguns and hunting rifles. Most fights feel pretty evenly matched.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2010, 11:15:25 pm »

I don't know what would be required to keep that feeling throughout the game.
Remove southern towns and clone Modoc there instead... :/ Oh, save Vault 15, it's quite a correct map.

The best armour you'll have will be made out of leather, and you and your crew will most likely be wielding 10mms, shotguns and hunting rifles. Most fights feel pretty evenly matched.

Sounds very good.
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Re: Fallout Hardcore Style?
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2010, 11:26:48 pm »

I really don't know what to do. Other than just grow old in Modoc.
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