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[Stachi]

Hi. I have some questions.

1. Can you post here how much sneak I need to have to be invisible for players with 10 PE form 1 hex ? Or how can I calcuate it ?

2. I want to know that this perks are albe to get and what level i need to have:
     Bonus HtH Attack
     Silent Running
     Slayer
     Silent Deaht.

Greetings. Stachi.

[Hayabusa]

1. its impossible
2. google ->  fallout 2 perks or on wikia

[Izual]

Hello,
A little bit of searching would have gave you the answers. But well.
As Hayabusa said...
1. It's impossible ; however, 300% will help you to be invisible at a fair distance. The more you have, the better it is.
2. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_perks
     Bonus HtH Attack : Level 15.
     Silent Running : 6.
     Slayer : Impossible to take it (Req. level 24, and level cap is 21 now).
     Silent Death : Level 18, however, I'm not sure you can take it.
Have a look at the link to see other requirements (SPECIAL requirements) to be able to take those perks.

[Stachi]

A little bit of searching would have gave you the answers. But well.

Firts what i have done, before i post here was looking at fallout wiki, but it's not same game, you change a lot and i was thinking that perks was changed too.

Slayer : Impossible to take it (Req. level 24, and level cap is 21 now).

You will never change level form 24 to 21? Without this perks HtH fighter has no chance with sniper, BG, or any other classes. I think MMO game's characters must be a little bit balanced. I know that it is not MMO "like others" but it will be a good step to balanced classes.

1. It's impossible ; however, 300% will help you to be invisible at a fair distance. The more you have, the better it is.

So can you post here how to calculat all that things ?

Silent Death : Level 18, however, I'm not sure you can take it.

Why do you think that I can't take it? It's blocked ?

[Izual]

So can you post here how to calculat all that things ?

No, I don't know the formula. Maybe scypior does.

Why do you think that I can't take it? It's blocked ?

Yes, I think the perk isn't available at the moment.

And for HtH perks, you have to ask devs, but I think it won't change in a sooner future ;p

[Candy]

so my character is a sniper and his sneak skill is at 155%, he carries about 11 kg total most of the time (sniper rifle, leather jacket, 50 ammo, radio) however it seems like when i am in sneak mode everybody can see me. Some players told me in game that there is a penalty for sneaking in fonline, im wondering what those penalties are?

[Elmehdi]

so my character is a sniper and his sneak skill is at 155%, he carries about 11 kg total most of the time (sniper rifle, leather jacket, 50 ammo, radio) however it seems like when i am in sneak mode everybody can see me. Some players told me in game that there is a penalty for sneaking in fonline, im wondering what those penalties are?

Here you can find many answers.

Here is where some guy made a lot of testing with a character with over 280% on sneak. There you can find out the limit of what you can achieve investing in that skill.

And conseqently, I suggest you create yourself a new character and don't spend skilll points into sneak any more. It's been nerfed so much that it's just not worth it.

[maszrum]

good luck with exping alt with 300%
im trying to made that characeter form realyl long time

with 300% sneak vs 10pe - 15hex

[Berko]

Sneak works really?
Test difference between a guy with 0-25% in sneak and a guy with 250-300%
I thinks it's still the same for the 2 guys since the nerf : Hidden outside the field of view and visible within.
(I test it just before the wipe and no news about sneak since the wipe)

Or it changed and a guy can be hidden in our field of view, that could be a good news for me (and other) but I remain in doubt.

[JovankaB]

with 300% sneak vs 10pe - 15hex

that sounds perfect for plasma grenade thrower char

[Bantz]

with 300% sneak vs 10pe - 15hex

Test difference between a guy with 0-25% in sneak and a guy with 250-300%
I thinks it's still the same for the 2 guys since the nerf : Hidden outside the field of view and visible within.

There is an obvious conflict between these two posts. I experienced the same thing as Berko. Truth is, I dont have my sneak as high as 300%. But if Mush is right, does that 15 hex means 15 hex in front of him? 

[JovankaB]

you also get penalties for wearing armors and weight of stuff you carry

[Ghosthack]

All you need to know: http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Sneak

[Bantz]

Wow, now thats a huge piece of knowledge I didnt know. Thx Ghosthack

I am little confused about that point:"standing near scenery objects gives you +50% bonus"
Does that mean if we stand in hexes surrounding that objects? 

[nethru]

Kinda stinks that no matter what direction your coming from if you get withing 3 hexes you are spotted so that makes the silent death perk usless and will never work for hth stealthers.