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Should bomb farming stay in the game?

Absolutely! This is a great feature!
No way, it's just a way for noobz to get stuff.
I don't care, I never had explosives anyways.

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Gimper

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Bombing
« on: January 15, 2013, 05:12:43 am »

Mayck has said that the bomb farming will be removed in the future. Let him hear your voice!
Re: Bombing
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 05:18:27 am »

I'm okay with it only if Enclave patrols are nerfed to a reasonable degree.
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 10:00:33 am »

People farm enclave with dynamite because that's the only reasonable way to do it. If enclave was nerfed then there would be no need for dynamite farming.
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 01:04:43 pm »

What about NCR?
You can't do this to the PK community.
What will idlers like me do now that we only have to dodge greasers.

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Re: Bombing
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 02:04:03 pm »

Mayck has said that the bomb farming will be removed in the future. Let him hear your voice!
You forgot to mention the infinite ammo and super-stim stealing...
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 02:40:26 pm »

what does "infinite" mean for you? 250? 2500? 25 000? 2 500 000? now put this number to relation with time needed to obtain such "infinite" amounts, compare to crafting? What is your calculation?

Let see example of MFC:
CRAFTING 1000 MFC
for craftin 1000 MFC you will need :
30 uranium ore (takes like 5minutes in BH including rafination)
600 caps for rafination unrefined ore(takes 10 min to enslave and sell 3 slaveS)
10 eparts (takes 5 more minutes to gather in waterworks)
10 alloys (takes 10 minutes to gather iron and minerals and make alloys)
Bringing all materials to Advanced WB(15min)
Crafting 1000 MFC(5min)
IN TOTAL 50 minutes required to craft 1000 MFC from nothing

STEALING 1000MFC
From my personal experience i know that i can gather like 2000 MFC with thief in 1 hour, in case i dont fail, if i fail i cant continue till next day, so there is additional limitation. Mostly i fail in first 30 minutes of stealing MFC with 296% steal skill.

If i compare stealing and crafting now i see 2 similar features to gather one type of material, efficiency is  diffrent, Ratio is 1/2 for Crafting/Stealing.





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Re: Bombing
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 04:35:29 pm »

Yes, and crafting 10K MFC is much faster than stealing
And each time I stole Enclave, I had a micro heart attack :(
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 07:21:22 pm »

GM must add more blueprint such as AVENGER, CA MK 2 and of course the BROTHERHOOD ARMOR to motive big team to come back. They will farm them and get therefore high quality stuff to pvp etc. Its very important and then there will be less bombing  ;)
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 08:27:08 pm »

GM must add more blueprint such as AVENGER, CA MK 2 and of course the BROTHERHOOD ARMOR to motive big team to come back. They will farm them and get therefore high quality stuff to pvp etc. Its very important and then there will be less bombing  ;)

Hardly.
The big issue is that many players can't keep up with the current farming and alting requirements. People have left or won't participate because they have to level all sorts of special alts to farm and supply their fastrelog waves. More farming options would just mean that some of the current hoarders would just have something more to hoard, while those who play only rarely would get even more reasons not to play because they couldn't keep up.
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 01:00:49 am »

You forgot to mention the infinite ammo and super-stim stealing...

I'm not complaining or being rude - but I am certainly curious when this will happen.  I only ask, so that I can plan appropriately.

I know, I know.  "Soon."

I guess all I'm asking for is a ballpark guesstimate, like "Probably next update" or "Next Season", etc.

Thanks.
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 01:16:22 am »

People farm enclave with dynamite because that's the only reasonable way to do it. If enclave was nerfed then there would be no need for dynamite farming.

It is supposed to be hard, very hard as that is the most toughest encounter out there with a unique reward. Doing it by explosives is close to zero effort and that kinda doesn't add up to the concept.


My point of view.
TC box = unlimited amount.
Let see example of MFC:
CRAFTING 6000 MFC
180 uranium ore (loot from TC box)
3600 caps for rafination unrefined ore(there is also refined uranium ore from TC box, if not you can gets caps from TC box)
60 eparts (TC box)
60 alloys (Kill a lot of players daily and science broken loot, science a lot farmed unnecessary equipment, and it stacks up with time in unreasonable amounts, haven't gone to a mine for alloys since start of session)
Bringing all materials to Advanced WB(10 min)
Crafting 6000 MFC(??min)
IN TOTAL 10+?? minutes required to craft 6000 MFC from nothing
« Last Edit: January 16, 2013, 01:27:00 am by T-888 »
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 10:03:39 am »


Last time i checked TC boxes are broken


My point of view.
TC box = unlimited amount.
unlimited amount of useless crap
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 10:10:16 am »

You forgot to mention the infinite ammo and super-stim stealing...

Totally OK with it, if there will be a respective change in the game.
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 10:39:09 am »

Last time i checked TC boxes are broken
unlimited amount of useless crap

You don't know how it even works. ;D
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Re: Bombing
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 10:57:10 am »

if iam right each TC box respawn items while town controling gang is in town, period is 30 minutes, iam not sure about quantities. i believe that stuff from TC isnt realy cheap, since many players have to risk all their gear.
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