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Author Topic: Changelog 19/07/2012  (Read 88140 times)

Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #240 on: July 26, 2012, 12:13:41 am »

Another one month of farming before starting pvp. Whatever, there are still unreported abuses. I suggest to fix some bugs and imbalances, the stuff people abused will run dry eventually and they will be merged with the common gameplay.

Yeah, but some things aren't abused and won't run out as you imagine, Troll box from TC that decides to spawn couple of ten thousand advanced super burn mixes, gold nuggets, stimpacks, ammunition, drugs, drugs will never end. These items aren't going anywhere for a very long long time due to their amount. :)
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #241 on: July 26, 2012, 12:57:51 am »

Yes, and without encouraging players to report them, any nerfs/updates won't change anything and we'll have another economy broken in next session in first days.
Something need changes, and community should be first.
I suggest trying to add some system which would encourage players to report (reward them with something, not only with nerfs, please) those abusive bugs (PA, Highwayman, caps ,CA, anything, rare item, ???).

pa? die in it and u will have nice pale of junk
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #242 on: July 26, 2012, 01:43:23 am »

:'( tons of drugs, tc sux, silent death trolls mimimimimi we want wipeee!  :'( "
 
*server wipe*

"Oh now everything will be ok! Let's start from the beginning... wait... sneakin trolls again?! I'm poor and when everybody around are rich?! Snipers owns my fucked bg?! I'm too lazy to farm ammo?! When wipe??? Mimimimiimimimi we waaant wipee  :'( :'("

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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #243 on: July 26, 2012, 03:04:11 am »

:'( tons of drugs, tc sux, silent death trolls mimimimimi we want wipeee!  :'( "
 
*server wipe*

"Oh now everything will be ok! Let's start from the beginning... wait... sneakin trolls again?! I'm poor and when everybody around are rich?! Snipers owns my fucked bg?! I'm too lazy to farm ammo?! When wipe??? Mimimimiimimimi we waaant wipee  :'( :'("

Lol ture story :DDD
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #244 on: July 26, 2012, 03:12:30 am »

id like the idea about getting are stuff for exploit reporting , that would be cool and i can imagine that it would work fine
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #245 on: July 26, 2012, 03:34:44 am »

Lol the problem is people would exploit the f*ckballs out of it until they have a stockpile, THEN report it :) Who wouldn't like BOTH a highwayman filled with power armors AND a carpet of avengers/bozars/p90s/plasma rifles/whatever the fuck you people like to farm?
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2012, 08:30:06 am »

FO2238 6th season - Troll season.

Silent death lamers, heavy handed unarmed trolls, high ac jinxed retards. Wtf?

Agreed. People are worried about economy when there are builds that can operate without any economy, without any gear. Why limit stuff if players don't even need it?
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2012, 08:35:50 am »

Agreed. People are worried about economy when there are builds that can operate without any economy, without any gear. Why limit stuff if players don't even need it?

This shows how little is developers knowledge about their own game.

Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2012, 08:40:10 am »

I know that the Devs are tired of many of the complaints but there is a fair amount of constructive ideas out there.  Is it really a bad thing for players to get items?  Right now you can barely maintain any of the good items players may have anyhow. 

There were unforeseen issues with fixes for broken parts of the game, that happens in any beta, but I would like to know have the Dev's decided it's just not worth trying to help the player base?  A dev posted elsewhere that basically none of the actual testing the players do matters, only whatever the Dev's want to do and to hell with whether it works or not.  *They didn't say it exactly that way but the point came across as 'players don't matter and Dev's don't care'*  I honestly don't believe that, and figure because of the overwhelming wave of whining about things both important and not, that that Dev may have had a bad day.  I do know that I and a few other dedicated players actually try and test things out on the game along with playing it, does that mean my opinion should count more than others?  NO, but if the work we do to try and help you guys with ideas really doesn't matter, it would be nice to know.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2012, 09:12:19 am »

I know that the Devs are tired of many of the complaints but there is a fair amount of constructive ideas out there.  Is it really a bad thing for players to get items?  Right now you can barely maintain any of the good items players may have anyhow. 

There were unforeseen issues with fixes for broken parts of the game, that happens in any beta, but I would like to know have the Dev's decided it's just not worth trying to help the player base?  A dev posted elsewhere that basically none of the actual testing the players do matters, only whatever the Dev's want to do and to hell with whether it works or not.  *They didn't say it exactly that way but the point came across as 'players don't matter and Dev's don't care'*  I honestly don't believe that, and figure because of the overwhelming wave of whining about things both important and not, that that Dev may have had a bad day.  I do know that I and a few other dedicated players actually try and test things out on the game along with playing it, does that mean my opinion should count more than others?  NO, but if the work we do to try and help you guys with ideas really doesn't matter, it would be nice to know.

well i think you should believe, if you ask them they will tell you as much just like the gms will tell you they don't care either. 
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #250 on: July 26, 2012, 09:37:32 am »

blah blah blah -snip-

Well what do they expect they nerf things that many players do in the game and expect us to dance around and be happy?

They basically went "ok well you can now do all your crafting on one alt" then everybody just made a single crafter went along fine with it for months on end. Now they go ok we are nerfing everything players do to obtain items and now you need to go create more alts. That is one frustration I can understand and why people complain.

But yes I do get the impression they don't play their own game, and if they do its probably for 5 minutes. I honestly would like to see a developer or some GM try to create a level 1 blue suit and try to level it to 24 with no GM commands or try to obtain gear and craft and see how they like it. But we know that won't happen. I have played this since the first hour of the wipe, and its not fun being blue suit no gear nothing and trying to make your way up with no help what so ever.

I really want them to try this so here is my challenge the developer team and GMS:

Play this game start with a level 1 try to get a tent get items, try to get a base, level this character to 24 and then try to at least supply it for one day, then maybe just maybe they well understand our frustration. This is my challenge to the developer team, then maybe they well understand why we complain and get annoyed with such changes to their game.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #251 on: July 26, 2012, 10:01:39 am »

Play this game start with a level 1 try to get a tent get items, try to get a base, level this character to 24 and then try to at least supply it for one day, then maybe just maybe they well understand our frustration. This is my challenge to the developer team, then maybe they well understand why we complain and get annoyed with such changes to their game.
They'll get killed by PK, and nerfing again will start :D.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #252 on: July 26, 2012, 10:28:04 am »

They'll get killed by PK, and nerfing again will start :D.

no wonder there was some douchebag who was whining that his 1 EN (!!!!!!!) character isn't strong enough and that devs should boost 1 EN characters. because most of this game's suggestions come from a bunch of selfish assholes that suggest stuff ONLY to fit their playing style.

but it's also the dev's fault for not communicating to the players WHAT they're working on. i never seen ONE topic that has official posts from devs saying what they're DOING or what they INTEND to do (if there is one, can you please link it?).  because honestly i am SICK AND TIRED of seeing one or more of my characters being useless after updates or after new features get added. that happened WAY too many times for me. and i think for other people too.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #253 on: July 26, 2012, 10:51:09 am »

Well, nobody is brave enough to do such a thread, because the first 10 pages will be about how much devs suck and that everything is shit and the remaining pages, before the thread is locked, will be a random flamewar.

But beside this, there was a time where we communicated such stuff on our blog.
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Re: Changelog 19/07/2012
« Reply #254 on: July 26, 2012, 10:59:50 am »

Well, nobody is brave enough to do such a thread, because the first 10 pages will be about how much devs suck and that everything is shit and the remaining pages, before the thread is locked, will be a random flamewar.

But you only need to state what's being worked on and what's being planned. If you had asked the players before removing ac cap, we could have been spared from lots of grief. Then again of course some clueless people will say nothing bad will happen and limitless ac is fine. Asking players for feedback depends on who you ask.
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