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Author Topic: Piece of shit game?  (Read 51948 times)

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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2012, 02:08:50 pm »

yes. armors after death are most of time beyond repair. in prev sesion we could rep it but now they are usless, can you make penalty of death -30% not -(70-75)% it would help a lot.
and what is wrong with support perks :
mr fix it - it doesnt work, i repaired many armors and weapons and i never rep them to higher /% then basic, and i have 300rep and tool in my hand.
dismantler - i dont see difference between 180sience and 1luck and 300 sience and 10luck.
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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2012, 02:15:21 pm »

Melee weapons will have their own effects added at some point.

I'm not sure if it was already done and waiting for an update, or due to be done just before the server went, but the spawn rate was meant to be less at once but more often (to reduce the effect of someone clearing the mine out).

We don't have infinite time, so some things have to wait, even when we know they don't work right. Lockers are one of these things.

Armours, there will be a change to how they work, up to 50% they will work as normal - then once under 50% they will still work with full stats, but there will start to be a chance to suffer a bypass. 1% chance at 49% considition and 49% chance at 1% condition. This should make it less important to have perfect health armours.

I guess the death effect could be reduced, so PvP didn't wreck them so badly.
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2012, 02:15:35 pm »

I supposed someone would be more interested into REAL changes and information about the game's future, but no, you're all still thinking about your little personal problems. Enough !

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« Reply #63 on: March 07, 2012, 02:17:02 pm »

I supposed someone would be more interested into REAL changes and information about the game's future, but no, you're all still thinking about your little personal problems. Enough !
Well those personal problems also affects other people ^^.
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« Reply #64 on: March 07, 2012, 02:30:27 pm »

Well, those problems are already known from the team, I don't see the point of discussing it again and again ! Couldn't we focus on what matters, at least once ?
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« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2012, 02:35:32 pm »

Bring brahmin to mine, then leave it empty for 20 minutes, also If Iam not wrong the minerals and ore is respawning by 2 pieces only, so one can stand all day there and mine and put inside cow, still abusable

You know what I do when I see someone with cow? I come with my small gun burster, kill the cow and then I come with my alt and pick up his ore and minerals.
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2012, 03:34:52 pm »


Armours, there will be a change to how they work, up to 50% they will work as normal - then once under 50% they will still work with full stats, but there will start to be a chance to suffer a bypass. 1% chance at 49% considition and 49% chance at 1% condition. This should make it less important to have perfect health armours.

I guess the death effect could be reduced, so PvP didn't wreck them so badly.

fine for me, maby death/critical death would reduce -10%/20% of armor so we could use them after battle or wear them if they will be still in good shape. right now it is 100-75% so it give us 20-25% armor and we have to repair it and very often we decrease it durability from 100 to 94%
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2012, 04:10:13 pm »

1) Thank you, Solar - that is good news about the change to punchers knockdown.
3) I am sure when i say the Treasure Finder support perk is still working backwards. I find 1 cap per locker.
5) The new way resembles Fallout 3 and it's good. But in Fallout 3, the used item disappears. Here, the used item should also disappear when it gets to "beyond repair". The fact that it does not is an irritation that requires us to take yet another step per item. Multiply that by how many times this needs to be done by heavy crafters and you see the need for a slight change.

2) I am not talking about resource-recovery rates. I am talking about three serious bottlenecks that were added to crafting of HQ gear: a) blueprints, b) limited advanced benches, and c) big increases to recipe expenses.

So we have these three all at once with no way to measure the effects of each one, one at a time. So the crafter's game is MEGA-MORE difficult. Yet, i think we all like the blueprint idea (i do!) and there is a thrill at the a-benches with that added risk. So i am suggesting one thing only on this for now: cut junk requirements in half and double how much junk we find per encounter. Keep it all the same otherwise. This one change might not be enough but we can take small steps in favor of crafting until we find a happy place.

Again, game is hosed if we lose crafters (and we're already seeing people prefer to farm now over crafting).
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« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2012, 04:58:25 pm »

5) The new way resembles Fallout 3 and it's good. But in Fallout 3, the used item disappears. Here, the used item should also disappear when it gets to "beyond repair".
dude it isnt fairy armor where tooth fairy take it from you, when it is beyond u can use sience on it with your siencer to get mats.
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2012, 05:12:37 pm »

I've tried and tried but cannot seem to find this game at all fun. I was introduced to it from some friends (who have since stopped playing) to show me that mmo's can actually be good. The only mmo I had ever known about was WoW, so to hear there was a mmo based in the fallout universe rather than some fairy universe, I was quite excited.
Unfortunately I cannot spend 10+ hours a day playing video games, which seems to be the prerequisite for mmo's, and especially this game.
Now I've scoured these forums, I've spoken to many people in NCR, (most of them being ridiculous trolls telling me to play hello kitty or WoW, or offering some other FOnline rhetoric that I've read over and over again, instead of offering any legit advice). But I did find one helpful fellow who showed where to gather fruit and who to sell it to. So I gathered fruit... and gathered fruit.... and gathered fruit. Then I bought a gun! HOORAYY! Now it's time to level up. So I fight mole rats, as instructed by this forum. Then I fight molerats....then molerats....then molerats. So after several weeks of rather intense gaming for myself, I have reached level 11....fuck me. By the way I left out the constant death by people camping traders in northern cities. Which then I redo the previous paragraph.
I was told (in ncr) by a level 24 virgin, that he accomplished this feat of getting to max level in under a week because as he said 'he's not fucking retarded'. I assumed he knew a serious exploit, and that I was truly stupid for not knowing this commonplace secret, that apparently EVERYONE knows.

Anways long story short, this game is wicked awesome fun if you enjoy repetition, being trolled (with the possibility of maybe one day becoming the troll), or enjoy sitting alone with your thoughts, waiting for the game to happen.

Fuck it, I'll go play Battlefield 3 :).
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2012, 05:16:27 pm »

I'm not sure if it was already done and waiting for an update, or due to be done just before the server went, but the spawn rate was meant to be less at once but more often (to reduce the effect of someone clearing the mine out).

I think mines are fine, except for people that try only junktown mine maybe, no actually the most impossible crafting is drug crafting. Just take a look : there is no HQ chemical, regular chemical respawn by pack of 10 each 10 min... You need 3 to make 1 super stim. Which means, 3 super stims each 10 minutes (if you do only that), let's say 20 if you camp both places killing everyone. That's 6 superstims by 10 min, 36 per hours, doing only that. A PvP team can easily eat 100 super stim in one day! No question why nobody craft those and farm instead.
We don't have infinite time, so some things have to wait, even when we know they don't work right. Lockers are one of these things.

I even wonder why the hell these things are locked. Was the whole point to force people to make alt to farm them? It should be a nice bonus sometimes than any character could open. Maybe, sometimes, one locker locked that you can open everytime with 100 lockpick or with 30 if you're very lucky. But most of times, not locked at all. Or it only become a "nobody open it except blueprint searching chars" (without blueprints, nobody would even bother opening them).
Armours, there will be a change to how they work, up to 50% they will work as normal - then once under 50% they will still work with full stats, but there will start to be a chance to suffer a bypass. 1% chance at 49% considition and 49% chance at 1% condition. This should make it less important to have perfect health armours.

That sounds very good.
I guess the death effect could be reduced, so PvP didn't wreck them so badly.
Sounds very good too.
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2012, 05:36:46 pm »

In amoungst all the random moaning about non specfiic things, there were some actual points listed.

1) This will be changed and will be a maximum of 50% for Str 10 guys (if they don't use the unarmed weapons)



if you re going to change this, fix the keybinding bug that makes unarmed aiming imposible
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2012, 06:17:52 pm »

No offense intended to any of the devs, but the game is pretty boring right now. There's no new content or quests being added (aside from .22 ammo). TC is shit currently. And I don't think there has been any response from the devs on the treasure hunter perk working backwards.
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2012, 06:28:51 pm »

in 2238 this perk hunt you
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Re: Piece of shit game?
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2012, 09:20:00 pm »

No offense intended to any of the devs, but the game is pretty boring right now. There's no new content or quests being added (aside from .22 ammo). TC is shit currently. And I don't think there has been any response from the devs on the treasure hunter perk working backwards.
TC in this season isn't perfect, but how many Town Controls have you done until now? Saying TC is shit is like saying that this game is shit. If so then nobody forces you to be here, you can go.

This new system at least supports small scale PvP like never before. Huge gangs and alliances don't play anymore, because the current system is not made for them (try to stay in a town with full squad 24 hours every day, impossible). They might control majority of towns, but go and check these... towns are either empty or full of other gangs, which is good for PvP.

Personally I'd like to see the day, when I launch FOnline and say to myself "there is nothing else to do in this game, maybe I should play another". It's been exactly two years since I started to play FOnline and there is still plenty of stuff you can do. Farming, crafting, leveling, chatting with players, pvp in towns, rt pvp in encounters, tb pvp in encounters, pve with friends (aka hunting, not to be confused with farming), doing quests and a lot more. Only your imagination is your enemy.

For people, who really want to enjoy some pvp, there are some advices:
  • Are you alone? Don't have ingame friends? Make a sneaker. It's a well known fact, that sneakers experience a lot of action.
  • Are you a group of friends, not more than 5? Plenty of choices, for example TB fights near SF or if you don't like TB, you can do some guerrilla tactics in unguarded towns.
  • Are you a bigger group of friends, more than 10? Everyone make a good max level pvp char and go fight to TC towns! Because guess what, almost all active gangs don't have more than 12 players at the time.
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