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If one player is talk bad words on other player - can it be banned for this?
not just bad words , he even pk me after...
what can be done with him for that?
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nothin, if a GGM isn't present, or you don't post a screenshot of him doing something "illegal", AFAIK, insulting you, and then killing you is not bannable at all, in fact it is a common thing that happens...
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he insulted me a lot - and killed me and mercs. then after respawn he insulted me again - telling it by "noob" and "how bad to lose money and mercs" and ask do I want to go back to respawn point.
I have screenshots - and logs.
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he insulted me a lot - and killed me and mercs. then after respawn he insulted me again - telling it by "noob" and "how bad to lose money and mercs" and ask do I want to go back to respawn point.
I have screenshots - and logs.
Please share these screens/logs.
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02:05:57 • The strain might kill you.
02:06:03 • дядя Юрий: буду часто заходить
02:06:07 • DoMiNaToR: канал 0923?
02:06:28 • ?: CREETINE, NAHORE
02:07:26 • Grey: :>
02:07:29 • Nitay: =))
02:07:43 • You see Jet Lee.
02:08:49 • Dzikufrombyt: Mati, jestes ranny. Pomoc Ci?
02:08:53 • Boon Lived: FREE REPAIR!!! 98% CHANCE UR ITEM BREAKS!!! GOOD ODDS!
02:09:41 • Deantrel: ss
02:09:43 • Ферзь.: КУПРЮ ТЖЙТ
02:09:51 • You see Jack Raven.
02:09:51 • You see a young man. He looks: Unhurt.
02:09:53 • Boon Lived: FREE REPAIR!!! 98% CHANCE UR ITEM BREAKS!!! GOOD ODDS!
02:10:06 • ALLAHUAKHBAR: yeee
02:10:20 • ALLAHUAKHBAR: yeee
02:10:56 • Kalovic: TY GUYS
02:11:55 • Jack Raven: noob
02:11:59 • Jack Raven: with mercenaries
02:12:07 • Neode: im not noob
02:12:11 • Jack Raven: yes u re
02:12:13 • Jack Raven: stupid faggot
02:12:15 • Neode: fuck off
02:12:17 • Jack Raven: without brain
02:12:18 • Boon Lived: shutup jack u noob
02:12:22 • Neode: you mother fucker
02:12:26 • Jack Raven: u cant fight alone
02:12:29 • Jack Raven: u re too stupid
02:12:31 • Grey: what
02:12:34 • Neode: and even your mom know that
02:12:37 • Jack Raven: everyone beats u down
02:12:40 • You have no portable radio set.
02:12:41 • Jack Raven: u stupid dickhead
02:12:42 • Neode: BY THE WAY - I GOT THE LOG
02:12:46 • Screenshot saved.
02:12:46 • Boon Lived: if he dont got a brain he would be alot smarter than u
02:12:49 • Log saved.
02:12:54 • Neode: you know what is mean?
02:12:58 • Keigoris: MNitay stop stealing my shit!
02:13:09 • Jack Raven: u have brahmin shit in ur head
02:13:10 • Nitay: what?
02:13:11 • Jack Raven: only
02:13:11 • Boon Lived: do you want me to instead?
02:13:14 • Keigoris: **shit**
02:13:15 • Jack Raven: stupid dickhead
02:13:17 • Neode: пидар
02:13:20 • Nitay: shit in your pence?
02:13:21 • Neode: гомноед
02:13:23 • Jack Raven: russian bitch
02:13:24 • Boon Lived: :o
02:13:33 • Neode: уродик
02:13:39 • Jack Raven: russians are gays
02:13:42 • Neode: просто член
02:13:43 • Jack Raven: yes
02:13:47 • Jack Raven: yes they are
02:13:52 • Jack Raven: stupid gays
02:13:52 • You see Colin.
02:14:01 • Neode: ссыкун
02:14:10 • ?: OOOOOOOOOOOH CANADA! TEERE-EU DE NOS AYEULS!
02:14:25 • Harvey: FA PLEACE
02:14:29 • Jack Pot: fA
02:14:33 • Harvey: хай
02:14:34 • W0lf: SELLING 4 BRAH HIDES 100 EACH
02:14:36 • Jack Pot: FA
02:14:38 • You see Grey.
02:14:38 • Harvey: thanks
02:14:50 • ?: SHIT MORE BRAHMINS! SHIT MORE!.... MOARRRR
02:14:56 • W0lf: SELLING 4 BRAH HIDES 100 EACH
02:14:56 • Jack Raven: haha i robbed ur
02:14:57 • Neode: whats up
02:15:00 • Jack Raven: merc
02:15:07 • You see Jack Raven.
02:15:10 • You see a young man. He looks: Unhurt.
02:15:12 • Mercenary was hit for 42 hit points.
02:15:12 • Jack Raven was hit in the head for 17 hit points.
02:15:14 • Mercenary was hit for 47 hit points.
02:15:14 • Jack Raven was hit in the groin for 18 hit points.
02:15:15 • Jack Raven was hit for 17 hit points.
02:15:15 • Neode: a
02:15:16 • Mercenary was hit for 48 hit points.
02:15:18 • You missed.
02:15:18 • Mercenary was hit for 52 hit points.
02:15:19 • Jack Raven was critically hit in the eyes for 59 hit points, blinded and had his armor bypassed.
02:15:20 • You missed.
02:15:24 • You missed.
02:15:24 • Jack Raven was hit in the head for 21 hit points.
02:15:26 • Neode: a
02:15:31 • You missed.
02:15:36 • Jack Raven was hit for 3 hit points.
02:15:36 • Mercenary was hit for 54 hit points.
02:15:37 • Mercenary was hit for 38 hit points and was killed.
02:15:38 • You missed.
02:15:39 • You were hit for 50 hit points.
02:15:44 • You were hit for 59 hit points and were killed.
02:15:50 • Neode: ...you blacklisted...
02:15:51 • Jack Raven: very good
02:15:57 • Jack Raven: haha
02:15:58 • Jack Raven: noob
02:15:59 • Jack Raven: owned
02:16:00 • Neode: ...yours logs will at cvet soon...
02:16:02 • Jack Raven: pwned
02:16:06 • Neode: ...banned...
after
02:30:51 • Jack Raven: how much caps u lost ?
02:30:52 • Neode: wait a sec - i will have little surprise for ya
02:30:54 • +22
02:30:56 • DoMiNaToR: пойду 10мм зделаю
02:30:59 • Neode: oh many
02:31:01 • DoMiNaToR: хоть чтото
02:31:01 • Айсмен: 8923
02:31:02 • Jack Raven: 10 k?
02:31:02 • Neode: too many
02:31:09 • Jack Raven: nice
02:31:12 • DoMiNaToR: я
02:31:20 • Jack Raven: im happy that someone loses caps
02:31:26 • Haymon: DOC PLIS
02:31:26 • Neode: I can see that
02:31:37 • Jack Raven: about 10k caps
02:31:39 • Haymon: DOC PLIS
02:31:41 • Jack Raven: 2 x 14mm pistols
02:31:43 • SniperPL: only one arm:/
02:31:46 • Jack Raven: desert eagle
02:31:47 • SniperPL: i heal
02:31:47 • Jack Pot: sniper chodz
02:31:49 • Jack Raven: some ammo
02:31:53 • Jack Raven: and stimpaks
02:31:54 • Haymon: yep thx
02:32:00 • Jack Raven: good
02:32:01 • Haymon: DOC PLIS
02:32:14 • SniperPL: dzieki
02:32:18 • Рыся: who want more exp?
02:32:19 • Haymon: doc plis
02:32:24 • Jack Raven: maybe u want back to respawn point
02:32:24 • Boon Lived: exp?!?!?!
02:32:29 • Рыся: yep
02:32:30 • Jack Pot: jestes moim 1wszym noobem
02:32:33 • Sending request. Please wait.
02:32:33 • Jack Pot: ktoremu pomoglem
02:32:38 • Рыся: i know a good way to kill centaur
02:32:39 • Jack Pot: ;]
02:32:39 • Jack Raven: are u newb ?
02:32:41 • Jack Raven: yes
02:32:43 • Jack Raven: u re !
02:32:45 • Neode: will wait gm a sec
thats logs. screens -
http://xmages.net/show.php/1670306_screen-07-08-2010-02-12-45-jpg.html - all seen here and even chat
http://xmages.net/show.php/1670307_screen-07-08-2010-02-33-44-jpg.html - here you can see that he even laugh upon my warning about logs - this screen after he pk me and I come back)
I really really want you to ban him - beccause - i wasnt any insult him or even speak with him! the first chat contact and and game contact is by the words "02:11:55 • Jack Raven: noob"
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he deserve this beacuse many players is telling that he is doing that sort of things all time.
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He's nothing but a griefer, preying on newbies, idk what to say. That shits allowed...........
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He's nothing but a griefer, preying on newbies, idk what to say. That shits allowed...........
really?
read this:
The rules here are subject to change, going with the possible exploits, bug and features. They will be changed whenever deemed necessary and this thread will be updated.
Here is a list of some actions that we consider unfair and illegal in the game. If you're spotting someone violating the rules, feel free to message a GM by typing: "+requesthelp <message>". However they won't do anything unless they witness an actual rule violation.
- Exploiting a bug or abusing of a feature (this includes security failures in guarded towns).
- Using alts (that means dual log - playing with more than one character at time, even with two computers).
- Avoiding the anti-alt timeout system.
- Using bots, macros, auto-clickers.
- Racism or other hostile speech.
- Impersonating staff member.
- Attacking people in respawn locations.
- Spamming or making in-game chat unreadable.
- Slowing down the beta process by being clearly not focused on testing properly the game or preventing other people to test it properly.
Sanctions shall go from jailing or temporary banning to regenerating tent/faction map or characters deleting.
this is certainly ban!
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well, you did retaliate with insults towards mothers, so you're just as guilty as he is...
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he incite me... I was quite for short time
he said:
Jack Raven: noob
02:11:59 • Jack Raven: with mercenaries
02:12:07 • Neode: im not noob
02:12:11 • Jack Raven: yes u re
02:12:13 • Jack Raven: stupid faggot
02:12:15 • Neode: fuck off - so he understand and chill out from me
02:12:17 • Jack Raven: without brain - what this for???
02:12:18 • Boon Lived: shutup jack u noob
02:12:22 • Neode: you mother fucker
then
02:13:23 • Jack Raven: russian bitch
02:13:24 • Boon Lived:
02:13:33 • Neode: уродик
02:13:39 • Jack Raven: russians are gays
thats a racism!!
I wasnt talk about his nationality. even there in russian says about just him not his nationality. - only for that !
he started first - in this game is really important is reputation - so I was just need to answer him.
if you not decided to do something with him - that will be breach of rules - Im not right? not me was start this insult!! I am right!
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maybe I was a little not right - that I answer on this all insults.... but not I was breaking the rules and insulting others players!
about his mother I as mean only that she must know who is her sON :-X
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well, you can be rest assured he won't say something like that to your face in real life, he's probably one of those guys who has internet-balls...
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well, you can be rest assured he won't say something like that to your face in real life, he's probably one of those guys who has internet-balls...
I trying to explain you... meaning not about RL
meaning about Im not noob - I was playing on first open beta and second either, but on rus servers. there is many much more insulations, by true.. - why I come here.
Im not a kid - and really dont like when someone talking like that..
maybe I in bad mood either - maybe another one day I just passed - but for this HE need to be punished! I really think good punishment - BAN... maybe that really teach him - not to talk a *shit*!!
other talk - If he just said noob - that not so really bad for me, but not like when he talking about me and some sort nationality - thats must BAN for sure.
(how my english?)
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You are saying you are not a kid, so stop acting like one, learn to ignore him and shoot him in the wastes when you see him.
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IM not sure you understand well what he was saying.
ignore him and shoot - that what you called act like need to be?
I was exiting the city and he tag me, I stoped near city - and he pk me, and my mercs. what the funny - if he really not said about brain sort - i ignored it.
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jack raven should be banned for generally being a cunt. but if that's not enough reason here are the rules he breaks all the fucking time:
- Racism or other hostile speech.
- Impersonating staff member. (as well as impersonating faction members)
- Spamming or making in-game chat unreadable.
- Slowing down the beta process by being clearly not focused on testing properly the game or preventing other people to test it properly.
I wish i had a screenshot of when he followed me, it was fun. But he didn't have any decent loot on him :'(
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thats the problem....
Im not first time hearing that about him.
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man how old are ya? you act like 5 years old child screaming "i tell it mom!", learn to ignore idiots or reply with better things, insulting even with great doze of racism is not banable, half of wasteland do this, you creating your image as poor child who cannot stand this he been insulted, its rather off top but there is something on this forum:
WARNING: This game may not be suitable for young players. You may die in this game and there is no save function!
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man how old are ya? you act like 5 years old child screaming "i tell it mom!", learn to ignore idiots or reply with better things, insulting even with great doze of racism is not banable, half of wasteland do this, you creating your image as poor child who cannot stand this he been insulted, its rather off top but there is something on this forum:
Although in small or semi large doses Im perfectly fine with ingame, this Jack Raven is seriously off the fucker knockers and seriously DOES deserve ban, all I see him do is rule-breaking, griefing newbies, destroying game for others, etc etc ETC!! Its all he fucking does man, ncr is his own little trap and rape playground set up for Newbies!
He's out of control... >.>
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he is just like dremor in the past, solution for this is simple as shit, destroy his whole efforts in game, kill him in ncr constantly (of coz when he is armed) hunt him in whole wasteland, we do the same to dremor, i didn't heard about him since that ;]
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IM not sure you understand well what he was saying.
ignore him and shoot - that what you called act like need to be?
I was exiting the city and he tag me, I stoped near city - and he pk me, and my mercs. what the funny - if he really not said about brain sort - i ignored it.
I dont understand why did you let him follow you and now whining that he killed you... omg... yes he is a bitch, but you did this to yourself...
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Swearing and killing players in the wasteland isnt forbidden. Theres nothing for to blame him.
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man how old are ya? you act like 5 years old child screaming "i tell it mom!", learn to ignore idiots or reply with better things, insulting even with great doze of racism is not banable, half of wasteland do this, you creating your image as poor child who cannot stand this he been insulted, its rather off top but there is something on this forum:
you know.... its not teenagers problems in our days discussion. its disscusion about RULES of this server. about mom - well... I dont want to tell her, but if you insist I can.
and man, DONT learn me a shit. im playing online game from 1999 year - it was anarchy online. Im already 23 years old. And my first game was in 1991. Im not an ass in RL, so dont learn me how to...
of course its just discussion - so lets not insult each other like that guy do.
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I dont understand why did you let him follow you and now whining that he killed you... omg... yes he is a bitch, but you did this to yourself...
I blame him not because PK..
And my char was trader - its 20% small guns and 50% unarmed - even awarness not learned. it was two mercs with me, with SMG - but he killed them either.
I just exit from city grid and was wanted to kick him from party and pressed wrong button - to give him control of my group, so he just pressed world and map.
by the way - his insults was even not supported by any my actions - I was just waitting for thief, that stole my 350 12-gauge shells, even wasnt chatting with nobody.
if he mean something of it - he certainly not right.
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We won't ban/jail people out of the blue or because of some thread here.
But if I am ingame and see shit like this, especially "gay russian" or some stuff, then for sure one can expect sanctions.
As said several times, just because this is a "harsh wasteland" this doesn't mean you can behave like a total prick.
Leave these overwhelming swearing/racism/insults into your own 4 rooms and don't pester the game with kindergarten style.
The rules are pretty clear on this topic, no need to discuss them further.
And to cookins: I know it's sometimes not that easy, but try to ignore such stuff. Don't even react or answer, "Don't feed the troll".
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yes, you are right.
that funny - but usually I never even react - can say of course: "get off" or some..
but I was really in bad mood..
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You should remember always one thing:
"Wasteland is harsh"
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no no...
that all other things - insults because of nothing against rules...
the point is - that insults was in RP, not of some gaming sort - its just because guy wasnt like something and he can insult you and be free after that. its AGAINST RULESSS!
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I dont get how he isnt getting banned... You have a log and Screenshots, what the hell more do you need?
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We don't know what happened before the log and screenshot. It's clearly stated that GMs have to witness breaking rules personally. If we make an exception, soon some trolls will start posting fake logs and screens.
If you see someone breaking rules, call a GM with: +requesthelp come invisible, (player name here) is (what he is doing here).
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First of all we don't know what happened before the log and screenshot. If we make an exception, soon some trolls will start posting fake logs and screens.
But... SO, its ok to go "MOTHERFUCKER NIGGER AS SHIT!" (example) as long as you have a good reason like being pissed?
But I do sort of see your point... you can't please everyone :-/.
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But... SO, its ok to go "MOTHERFUCKER NIGGER AS SHIT!" (example) as long as you have a good reason like being pissed?
But I do sort of see your point... you can't please everyone :-/.
It is not ok, but we have to see it with our own eyes, as Jovanka said, we dont know what could happened before etc.
Therefore you should send a requesthelp if something happens again.
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Yeah. As JovankaB said on another thread,(first of all) we don't know what happened to your dynamite. ;D
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It is not ok, but we have to see it with our own eyes, as Jovanka said, we dont know what could happened before etc.
Therefore you should send a requesthelp if something happens again.
Ironically whenever this happens it seems the GMs are never online....
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Without reading the whole thread, I hope no one is or will be getting banned for any kind of speech which can be considered roleplaying (this outrules staff imitation, real personal attacks and threats etc), because I what I absolutely love about this game is how many people there are to hate and are total assholes which I want to kill - that is one thing which which needs improvement - revenge accessibility.
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Without reading the whole thread, I hope no one is or will be getting banned for any kind of speech which can be considered roleplaying
Of course not. ;) We just mean stuff like personal insults/racism/bullshit speech to the player, not his ingame character.
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Killing is allowed but insulting isn't? Don't tell me it's a game you can get as mad when being killed and when being insulted. If you want ban people for insulting others in NCR you also have to bans those who shoot people in NCR - because it's not allowed there.
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I think the people calling for a ban weren't referring to just the insults.
I was referring to the racist shout spam at NCR bazaar usually originating from him, among other things he does that are actually against the rules of the server. Though he has quietened down a bit lately.
(http://www.photoshack.com/albums/userpics/23841/jr1.jpg)
talking on his radio
(http://www.photoshack.com/albums/userpics/23841/jr2.jpg)
no FA for you
(http://www.photoshack.com/albums/userpics/23841/jr3.jpg)
(http://www.photoshack.com/albums/userpics/23841/jr4.jpg)
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I've always found this curious.
Apparently hostile language isn't allowed, however, most of the NPCs will call you a
"Fucking shit-eating candy assed faggot."
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Its hard to read proper, aight Dylan? ::)
No one os talking about in character swearing ( as lpng as it doesnt get out of hand), we are talking about a) racist speech or b) contineous insulting of the player itself, not his ingame character, which is some kind of "metagaming". These things wont be tolerated if seen.
Also, I am really interested to know which NPC exactly calls you a "faggot".
Care to elaborate? :)
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Its hard to read proper, aight Dylan? ::)
No one os talking about in character swearing ( as lpng as it doesnt get out of hand), we are talking about a) racist speech or b) contineous insulting of the player itself, not his ingame character, which is some kind of "metagaming". These things wont be tolerated if seen.
Also, I am really interested to know which NPC exactly calls you a "faggot".
Care to elaborate? :)
I forget the exact NPC that calls you a faggot, but I remembered it because I found it particularly humorous.
I'm pretty sure this NPC is in The Den, though.
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I forget the exact NPC that calls you a faggot, but I remembered it because I found it particularly humorous.
I'm pretty sure this NPC is in The Den, though.
I think it was Metzger.
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We don't know what happened before the log and screenshot. It's clearly stated that GMs have to witness breaking rules personally. If we make an exception, soon some trolls will start posting fake logs and screens.
If you see someone breaking rules, call a GM with: +requesthelp come invisible, (player name here) is (what he is doing here).
IM sorry - there is log - what was before I showed up near him and I have screens of his actions in text way, what is breaking of rules. I was reported this first not him, so right on mt side.
He must be banned already? I was on vacation a week - it must be already decided.
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Really sorry -
is this guy is banned?
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You insulted him too so I guess both of you should be banned this way.
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I see nothing being resolved here.
Just let it go and don't provoke him next time by talking back, just keep your mouth shut.
I've never retaliated or taken it out on another, and I'm sure many other players are the same way, including you. We just wanna play the game. The Game suckas!
But people are dicks, I've been killed many times just because, not for loot or caps, just... because. You wanna see some real mean cursing and swearing motherfuckers go read YouTube comments, those guys are real dicks.
Just chill and let it go, you filed your complaint now go have fun. If he's a real issue other players will stack complaints with yours and the GM's will deal with it.
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Just let it go and don't provoke him next time by talking back, just keep your mouth shut.
GUYS GUYS GUYS!
Not I was breaker of rules! I was provoked (not me provoker, Sashi)
I suggest about "!keep your mouth shut" to you either.
The guy was not right - he is insulted me... then he typed a text message with "racist" thing and even after it - he not stoped!
How you think who not right? Me?
Bad language is not problem - INSULTS AND RACISM is!
So how I called him after he insulted me because of nothing - is alright for sure. By the way - Im not english everyday speaking guy - Im speaking in russian - and (my apologies) *mother fucker* is not really meaning about his mother - just about who guy become. There is no russian bad word about mom what can describe it. So it just like "answer" word in conversation.
Bad language is ok in game, beacuse of RP and other things - its even somehow complete whole gameplay. But it was insult!!
when he will be banned?
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He won't be banned. Stop crying.
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Why he wont?