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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Gang Issues => Topic started by: Cryofluid on August 03, 2010, 08:27:53 am
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This topic is related to what Lordus suggested yesterday evening
Warnings:
1- This suggestion is especially dedicated to the following gangs: RDA, VSB, Rogues, BBS, Hawks, TTTLA, Mash Force, TDS, TCB, Bandits, CND, AC, Pie Eaters. But other gangs can participate if they respect the rules.
2- The Gang Wars will be performed without GM (a GM is very usefull for such event but they can't be always there so we have to take our responsibilities).
It means shit WILL happen so if you are afraid to lose stuff don't come.
3- These events do not interfere with diplomatic relationships between teams: in TC, alliances will stay as they are currently.
Rules:
1- I think the best place for this will be Necropolis. So an appointment will be made at a certain hour via mumble or IRC.
2- Gangs have to decide BEFORE the specific time the number of players that will participate. This number will be from 5 to 10. Each gang have to respect this number.
=> Example: even if RDA are numerous, they will have to choose 5 or 7 of their warriors if the gang ahead can't furnish more players. They can also make 2 teams but this 2 teams will fight separately.
3- ONLY 2 GANGS CAN FIGHT at a time. Other gangs can go inside to observe but they will have to respect distance (or won't be able to leave a specific area).
4- A NameColorizing MUST BE updated BEFORE the fight begins.
5- EVERY TEAM OR PLAYERS that disturb the fight between the 2 gangs involved will be executed.
6- Before coming, consider all your stuff as lost. So don't whine to recover it after the fight.
7- When two teams are fighting(for example RDA vs TTTLA) faction who is in war with first and second team(for example Rouges/BBS) choose one sneaker with high perception to make movie/take screens.
Only the scout chosen by the two teams is considered neutral scout and he can't be shot, he is only here to record.
=> Yet, ONE scout per gang is authorized in the fight but he can be shot on sight and scouts are not allowed to attack gangs involved.
For example, it could be 5 RDA + 1 scout VS 5 Rogues +1 scout
Example of Watershed:
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8830/watershed.th.jpg) (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/watershed.jpg/)
I will edit this post according to your suggestions until I estimate everyone (or nearly everyone) is satisfied with the rules.
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7- When two teams are fighting(for example RDA vs TTTLA) faction who is in war with first and second team(for example Rouges/BBS) choose one sneaker with high perception to make movie/take screens.
I think is good idea. I have question. Only that 2 teams know when will be fight against themselfs? If yes we cannot put there scout from another team and even from their team(good scout is not bad ;) ).
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7- When two teams are fighting(for example RDA vs TTTLA) faction who is in war with first and second team(for example Rouges/BBS) choose one sneaker with high perception to make movie/take screens.
I think is good idea. I have question. Only that 2 teams know when will be fight against themselfs? If yes we cannot put there scout from another team and even from their team(good scout is not bad ;) ).
Let's try it.
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Sorry, I click Quote instead of Modify ::)
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Yeah, why not.
But Necropolis is a bit far away, we could also try some new maps like Gordon Gas Station, Water Pump, Junkyeard...
Maybe we should award a prize. For exeample : each gang would have to come with a car, and the winner would take the loser's car.
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I think enough reward will be stuff of team which were killed and fun. :P
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its on
dont know what to add, looks good for me
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is it possible, from game masters, to add special respawn near that combat zone, that will grant 100 percent chance of respawn at this respawn point, if we die inside that location? it will help us
And, i suggest make Modoc that pvp city.. and i think that i wil not see problem, if there will be fighting more than two teams in one time.. Lets make Modoc pvp city like in old days..
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Not on a public map like this. Who knows what may happen :/
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Not on a public map like this. Who knows what may happen :/
WE ARE BORED! What happend? For christ. Yesterday, at cca 9 PM of CEtime, there were cca 60 players on VSB and TTLA mumble.. add +20 od RDA mumble, and you have 1/4 of all population of fonline. This is the core, and we are bored.
Other players will be glad that mines will be clear of gangpk for some time. And those NCR "bazzar instant message system" chaters will dont recognize any change.
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80 players ? I think Your guys can try to kill NCR.. VC.. SF and next Navvaro ;D
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80 players ? I think Your guys can try to kill NCR.. VC.. SF and next Navvaro ;D
not all of us are in alliance and not all of us were actualy fighting.. and of course, we are enemy :)
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but 40 player should be enough to do somethink big and funny ;D
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WE ARE BORED!
Doesn't change anything to my answer, lad. Plus, you are bored and have shitloads of stuff - you can certainly find some ideas to have fun. I was more imaginative back in CBT. Anyway. Some members of the so-called "core" of our playerbase talked to me about a PvP event with the biggest teams, and my answer wasn't negative.
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Doesn't change anything to my answer, lad. Plus, you are bored and have shitloads of stuff - you can certainly find some ideas to have fun. I was more imaginative back in CBT. Anyway. Some members of the so-called "core" of our playerbase talked to me about a PvP event with the biggest teams, and my answer wasn't negative.
Organized pvp events is not the reason why we are on this server.. If you fight with mind that you can loose your stuff and of course, you can win another ones, it is best experience.
I think that Modoc war zone will not be anti "regular fonline player" measure:
Modoc has PK tradition, there are not neccesary quests, there are place for big gunners and sniper, it is in the middle of gang bases, it is the last town anyone can capture because of TC (nothing valuable - jet - is there), there are not normal players insïde (like in most cities in wasteland .. great progress BTW after one year of testing).
So:
Disable TC in Modoc, militia too, of course, set respawn point near Modoc that if we die in Modoc, we will respawn there (=> great benefit for non junkie chars, if they will be able to join pvp alomost immediately), disable town preview for that town, write on IRC: "if you are noob, dont visit Modoc".
Or fuck us, like you do.
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Organized pvp events is not the reason why we are on this server.. If you fight with mind that you can loose your stuff and of course, you can win another ones, it is best experience.
I think that Modoc war zone will not be anti "regular fonline player" measure:
Modoc has PK tradition, there are not neccesary quests, there are place for big gunners and sniper, it is in the middle of gang bases, it is the last town anyone can capture because of TC (nothing valuable - jet - is there), there are not normal players insïde (like in most cities in wasteland .. great progress BTW after one year of testing).
So:
Disable TC in Modoc, militia too, of course, set respawn point near Modoc that if we die in Modoc, we will respawn there (=> great benefit for non junkie chars, if they will be able to join pvp alomost immediately), disable town preview for that town, write on IRC: "if you are noob, dont visit Modoc".
Or fuck us, like you do.
Modoc is only one and its great town.. i totally agree it... :)
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Disable TC in Modoc, militia too, of course, set respawn point near Modoc that if we die in Modoc, we will respawn there (=> great benefit for non junkie chars, if they will be able to join pvp alomost immediately), disable town preview for that town, write on IRC: "if you are noob, dont visit Modoc".
Or fuck us, like you do.
You forgot "Obey me, fool".
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Ok so till Something is done about Modoc (which I agree is a great combat zone) let's make a first try at Necropolis.
My suggestion for organization:
Someone will create a new topic called "Gang fights schedule".
Gangs who want to fight each other have to communicate by IRC, mumble or whatever means they want.
Once 2 gangs agreed on a NUMBER of warriors and on a TIME, they announce it in the thread.
It could be like this:
GANGS fighting: RDA vs VSB
Number: 8 vs 8
Location: Necropolis_Watershed
Time of PEACEFULL gathering at Watershed: Today at 8h pm GMT+1
Beginning of the fight: 8h 15 pm GMT +1
RDA soldiers: Mr_A/Mr_B/Mr_C...
VSB soldiers: Mr_G/Mr_H/...
Positions:VSB North_West of the map VS RDA south_east of the map
Neutral scout: Mr_Neutral
Mash Force, TTTLA, Hawks ... are requested to secure the COMBAT ZONE before the fight begins
At 8h 15 enveryone leave the Map except The fighters and The recorder (neutral scout).
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I realy dont think we need a GM for that. If the Big four (RDA,TTLA,Rogues, VSB&Hawks) makes an arrangment, there is no force that could do some serious damage.
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However I'm totally not interested in PvP (as always), I'd like to ask for another meat-jerky-maker somewhere else, if you want to make playground in Modoc. Thank you.
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(nothing valuable - jet - is there), there are not normal players insïde (like in most cities in wasteland ..
Disable TC in Modoc, militia too, of course, set respawn point near Modoc that if we die in Modoc, we will respawn there (=> great benefit for non junkie chars, if they will be able to join pvp alomost immediately), disable town preview for that town, write on IRC: "if you are noob, dont visit Modoc".
not true, and I disagree... first Modoc is only one place to get Meat Jerky... second there is Jerky Delivery quest, which is repeatable and easy to do for everyone (example: newbie died, respawned near Modoc, goes to Modoc for quest, goes to the bar in VC, receives 120 caps, voila money for hammer to mine or whatever)
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not true, and I disagree... first Modoc is only one place to get Meat Jerky... second there is Jerky Delivery quest, which is repeatable and easy to do for everyone (example: newbie died, respawned near Modoc, goes to Modoc for quest, goes to the bar in VC, receives 120 caps, voila money for hammer to mine or whatever)
Modoc war zone is not equal to state, where is not possible to enter Modoc.
But ok, we can compare it:
100+ active pvp players vs. few newbies because of jerky delivery quest. Current fonline offers better opportunites where to find caps.
I just want some change and i dont want to wait for new TC system.. because we dont know when it be finished and i personaly dont believe it will solve current problem. Modoc warzone was here for 2 ages, it had few disatvantages, of course, but it is the best known non-organized pvp arena in wasteland. So, bring it back at least until the new TC will be ready to test.
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Sounds like a strange idea ... what will happen if some alliance or lonely pk decide to come ?
Sounds like a trap or a joke ! As i always said if you are bored with alliance break them !
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what will happen if some alliance or lonely pk decide to come ?
They are not welcome.
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Not welcome but ? is modoc forbiden to other players ? it's make the game harsher for lonely ones ;)
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Why not a compromise?
Make modoc war zone with some time gate for quester and beginner ,
like a hour after every 3 of warzone
example gmt +7
1 am - 3am warzone
4am lucky beginner you may enter (pk awaiting for ya)
5 - 7 am warzone
8 am lucky beginner you may enter (pk awaiting for ya)
9 - 11 am warzone
12 am lucky beginner you may enter (pk awaiting for ya)
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Flick: or the newb can be lucky and get in when everyone is on the drug aftereffects wating for them to wear off on the world map.
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yeah, but I don't believe that newbs know of it
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I want that old broken town/world locations for Modoc. Only south side ;D Its epic.
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Since mass boredom were placed on the server, we could refresh cryo`s idea.
Thats why i would like to bump this topic.
I made IRC channel to help in contact: #GangWars
We can made some gang vs gang fights at hinkley or somewhere on the wasteland.
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modoc is just one place for newbies to gather fibers and fruits.
wai not make war in reno ? i see today like 12 guys from 1 gang in middle part of reno :D
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docan forget about it.
I asked almost all gangs on wasteland in the name of TNB to do such pvp. Only 3 answered. After 3 battles where we kicked their asses they didnt wanna fight anymore. Its fucking no comment.
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docan forget about it.
I asked almost all gangs on wasteland in the name of TNB to do such pvp. Only 3 answered. After 3 battles where we kicked their asses they didnt wanna fight anymore. Its fucking no comment.
I begin to understand why nobody want to play with you.
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couse the truth is painfull for somebody ?
i guess so.
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couse the truth is painfull for somebody ?
i guess so.
Well, telling to your ennemy "After 3 battles where we kicked their asses they didnt wanna fight anymore." because we left to go do true fight with someone else (ending in a draw 1-1)... It's exactly the kind of player I hate playing with.
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Gang Wars is for all players not only for people from one faction who would like to kick other asses.
In my mind i see it usefull, players can just gather 3 people and they want to find other group which they will like to fight.
Gang Wars (irc/forum/we can make some official radio channel, lest say 911) would be a tool which could help them to meet each other.
It wont have to be for shooters only, players who are like to be unarmed, should have a chance to use their skill in a fair fight.
Conclusions:
If you want to find some enemies, you want to test your skills or you are bored and you want to kill someone, try to find other dude with same problems on 911 radio channel or IRC #GangWars, You can use forum as well.
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Well, telling to your ennemy "After 3 battles where we kicked their asses they didnt wanna fight anymore." because we left to go do true fight with someone else (ending in a draw 1-1)... It's exactly the kind of player I hate playing with.
did u replayed for my further invitations ? - nooo
there is no mystery why
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because we left to go do true fight with someone else.
If I remember correctly, you left for swarming us while we were doing RP at gecko mine.
I even remember you failing at it by enterring a merc pack to soon, allowing us to spot you and leave before the zergs enter.
Well it was true fight for sure :)
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yaaa gathering 15 people + mercs to swarm like 4-6 guys tlla style on full throttle
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yaaa gathering 15 people + mercs to swarm like 4-6 guys tlla style on full throttle
Rascal, ill tell you how you imagine fair fight beetwen gangs allright ?
Once we were on fight in event map(Klamath), our team was ready, we had drugs and weapons which are allowed only by NPCs in this map. We told you we are ready > no respond, so we go where you was with your mates and what we saw ? You asked Nexxos if he can give you PA and then, he gived it. In first round you had drugs which were not allowed in this location and PA.
So tell, what you mean when you say "fair fight" ?
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buahah and total bullshit as always, u wasnt the person with who i was setting the terms of battle but u know everyting better as i can see.
first of all i didnt asked nexx for that fucking pa, but for 5xba + 2nd rocket launcher for my team (ive got build for 2 rocket launhers), when we were arranging rules of battle there was set: high end. So mamk2 was confusing. When nexx explained that he wont spawn any stuff and we should just use bots inside the map everything was clear. U can ask him about that pa i was surprised same as u.
and one more drugs was allowed and again u know shit but ur the smartest, ask nexx or ur action leader if u want. I wont even mention that u rushed into us at the first time without our side said "rdy". but till the end we were just smashing u soo no wonder why u didnt wanna play with us anymore.
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leave before the zergs enter.
Oh sorry you are so fair fighter... the fight before you spawned your 10 mercs rockets on us... we are the devil
PS: Oh, also you didnt mention the fight after when you got defeated with your 7 pvp chars + 10 mercs vs 10 pvp + 8 slaves of us ;)
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I know it's hard, but try to steer away from the rage a bit. ;)
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it will be even harder when someone will look at your pic:P
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I like this forum ; )
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PS: Oh, also you didnt mention the fight after when you got defeated with your 7 pvp chars + 10 mercs vs 10 pvp + 8 slaves of us ;)
Well maybe I didn't mention it because it has no connection to this topic whatsoever? Yeah I think that's the reason.
But if you want to troll lets go :
So what, you win a fair fight for once and you feel the urge to tell everybody about it in an unrelated topic? Seems to me that it's a very rare thing or you wouldn't be so proud of it. Yes you defeat us last time we encounter, well played.
And BTW do you use slaves and 4 slots leaders for RP purposes or are you just to poor and lazy to buy mercs and get lvl 6 characters?
Just to stay in touch with gang wars thing :
we would do it if we were able to gather our team together more than 1h per week. This wipe wait is killing us.
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Well maybe I didn't mention it because it has no connection to this topic whatsoever? Yeah I think that's the reason.
YOU started talking about how we zerg gecko mine, i just replied what happened there when we fighted last time.
About RP related leaders or not ... i think you wanted to taunt ::)... i dont think i need to justify you how we RP or not.
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buahah and total bullshit as always, u wasnt the person with who i was setting the terms of battle but u know everyting better as i can see.
first of all i didnt asked nexx for that fucking pa, but for 5xba + 2nd rocket launcher for my team (ive got build for 2 rocket launhers), when we were arranging rules of battle there was set: high end. So mamk2 was confusing. When nexx explained that he wont spawn any stuff and we should just use bots inside the map everything was clear. U can ask him about that pa i was surprised same as u.
and one more drugs was allowed and again u know shit but ur the smartest, ask nexx or ur action leader if u want. I wont even mention that u rushed into us at the first time without our side said "rdy". but till the end we were just smashing u soo no wonder why u didnt wanna play with us anymore.
Oh yeah....hm...then...i dont have anything else to say. When you start use words like "we smashed you again" i dont read it more ...
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and u think i care ?
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first of all i didnt asked nexx for that fucking pa
Wasn't me giving it.
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lol voland then ? couse i saw him for few moments in that location.
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(ending in a draw 1-1)... It's exactly the kind of player I hate playing with.
About that DRAW. No offence but you would have no chance in any further(third, fourth and so on) rounds because we started to use rocket launchers. You were 2 plasma guys, one laser and one lsw. In first round we lost 4 and you lost 2: Cryo(i almost shitted my pants when i killed him ;D, 4 TTTLA guys and me in one room, you didnt kill me and let me one hexed him heh) and Kinkin died by my minigun. The second round, we owned you( changed avangers to RLs, the effect? All our lived and you lost 4) It was obvious that every another round would looks the same 4RL >>>>> 2plasma,1laser,1lsw on map like Necropolis(one big open space). But after that round you just run away to Gecko what was for us like LOL WTF where are they going. We got fight here. Och yeeee they are french ::)
...we left to go do true fight with someone else...
I love the term: true fight ;D It makes me so lololol
Crazy -> There is no true fight in Hinkley where you cant hide behind the swarm. There is no true fight when 2 gangs meet somewhere on a desert and fight on clear rules. BUT there is true fight when zylion players and mercs swarm the enemies. Sure, cool story :)
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I wouldlike to thx to people from C88 for participation in yestarday Hinkley fights.
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Heavy troll and bullshit.
Obvious troll is obvious. But I love troll.
About that DRAW. No offence but you would have no chance in any further(third, fourth and so on) rounds because we started to use rocket launchers. You were 2 plasma guys, one laser and one lsw. In first round we lost 4 and you lost 2: Cryo(i almost shitted my pants when i killed him ;D, 4 TTTLA guys and me in one room, you didnt kill me and let me one hexed him heh) and Kinkin died by my minigun. The second round, we owned you( changed avangers to RLs, the effect? All our lived and you lost 4) It was obvious that every another round would looks the same 4RL >>>>> 2plasma,1laser,1lsw on map like Necropolis(one big open space). But after that round you just run away to Gecko what was for us like LOL WTF where are they going. We got fight here. Och yeeee they are french ::)
Yes, we were clearly disadvantaged by our build on this map. Cryo have only 1 PvP, others didn't relog. Though, we still fought, and still won one time (and I've seen rocket on the first round too...). And IIRC, we killed one guy on the second round. Next, we told you that our friends were waiting us to go fight a Gecko, and we told you we would leave. Next, for me, a true fight is a fight in the wasteland, were you get or loose loot, were it is not supposed to be fair, planned and such bullshit. When I really want this kind of fight, I play Quake Live, not Fonline.
You seem very angry to end on a draw, but a won on each side is still a draw, no matter how hard you try to say how better pro PvP player you are.
I won't even comment the last sentence.
> There is no true fight in Hinkley where you cant hide behind the swarm. There is no true fight when 2 gangs meet somewhere on a desert and fight on clear rules. BUT there is true fight when zylion players and mercs swarm the enemies. Sure, cool story Smiley
You just lost my respect (not like if you care though).
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dont know what happend to you guys, you start acting like cs
serious pvp without loot ? like hinkley? - funny
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Och yeeee they are french ::)
Here we go on national bulsshit ! Now tell us what is your shitty country so we can say how poor is, how ugly girls are, how stupid people are... etc... excellent trollero, excellent !
Edit: Oh and about playing and having fun together, looking how agressiv trolls you are you can roll the proposition, and stick it deep in your ass ;) ( and then you wil say, see ! we are uberpowzors, they are afraid, and bla bla
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Who need loot when can shoot for free. boring - crafting - farming - looting, synonyms
Edit: Oh and about playing and having fun together, looking how agressiv trolls you are you can roll the proposition, and stick it deep in your ass ;) ( and then you wil say, see ! we are uberpowzors, they are afraid, and bla bla
My respond for that is:
Cha cha cha
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I think that You all forgot about one important thing:
IT IS JUST A GAME !!!
Game definiton can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game)
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Ok Guys maybe stfu and if you wanna continue that trollfest, then maybe go to genereal topic thread there is much space for trolling.
About those 5vs5 if anyone srsly are interested to do it some more times please PM me (or query on IRC) and we can talk about when and where we can friendly fight :P
And for trolls (from troll) i cant name it other than friendlyn when its no loot and no trolling on dead bodies on ground :P
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It's not like they're necessarily off topic.... they are talking about gang wars after all. ;)
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Can anybody tell me shortly what is this topic about? Because I see there a lot of bullshits and not even any "normal" informations...
(don't take it personally)
1- This suggestion is especially dedicated to the following gangs: RDA, VSB, Rogues, BBS, Hawks, TTTLA, Mash Force, TDS, TCB, Bandits, CND, AC, Pie Eaters. But other gangs can participate if they respect the rules.
I'll leave it alone...
2- The Gang Wars will be performed without GM (a GM is very usefull for such event but they can't be always there so we have to take our responsibilities).
It means shit WILL happen so if you are afraid to lose stuff don't come.
first of all i didnt asked nexx for that fucking pa, but for 5xba + 2nd rocket launcher for my team (ive got build for 2 rocket launhers), when we were arranging rules of battle there was set: high end. So mamk2 was confusing. When nexx explained that he wont spawn any stuff and we should just use bots inside the map everything was clear. U can ask him about that pa i was surprised same as u.
Hmm... So GM are giving items in "this something" or not? ::)
(keeping rest of TC/hynkley/trolling bullshit)
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Hmm... So GM are giving items in "this something" or not?
originally the idea was to do it without any help of GM on maps like waterworks, themepark, warehouse, necropolis so evry1 take own stuff etc.
but on that particular time Nexx propose us that he is gona telepor us to klamath PvP map (event map) on some island. All was on bluesuits , but was told to take drugs with u. In place i thought nexx just gona spawn some itemzzz ong ground, but its turned out that there are some NPC bots that are giving sets of equipment.
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Stop argue about past fights. This is leading nowhere. We should rather talk about future fights.
A little less conversation a little more action!
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I didnt get any PM from anybody about it then i think they only wanna troll here...
Stop trolling start PvP'ing
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Stop trolling start PvP'ing
Never!
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Shoo shoo Wichura u dont like pvp apes go troll somewhere else
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Apes are so easy to troll, I can't resist myself.
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As nothing substantial comes out, thread ended.
If the OP or someone else has an idea for constructive discussion of this topic, PM it to me and the thread can be reopened.