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Title: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Michaelh139 on April 20, 2010, 09:18:28 pm
OK, we all know NCR isn't exactly "safe" due to all the bombers.  Well, when you kill players they come right back in 60 seconds.  But some ass hole keeps killing "Sha Enin" who most people go to to sell their shit.  And it must take around an hour for that bastard to respawn because when i go out brahmin hunting and get back maybe...  idk 45 min laters.  He is dead AGAIN except this time completely blown apart. 

Solution:  Either cut back on the huge respawn time for the merchants in towns, and/or make them.... invincible, but without any combat skills whatsoever.

Its really frusturating and i believe i speak for everybody when I say its getting out of hand, especially today.

Oh and for some reason when i tried to talk to that iguana dude he suddenly runs...  I have no idea. :/
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: geraioptuaer on April 20, 2010, 09:24:51 pm
No point posting about these kind of things, you will just get response "the wasteland is harsh"
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on April 20, 2010, 09:26:13 pm
No point posting about these kind of things, you will just get response "the wasteland is harsh"
No, I'll say "I hate Sha Enin and he must die!".
Yes, it was again me, I killed him with my magic desert eagle, but I really hate him, sorry.

Edit: btw, I going to do that again.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Badger on April 20, 2010, 09:31:21 pm
Does that at least clear his inventory?
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Surf on April 20, 2010, 09:32:23 pm
No, I'll say "I hate Sha Enin and he must die!".
Yes, it was again me, I killed him with my magic desert eagle, but I really hate him, sorry.

Edit: btw, I going to do that again.

And why exactly do you hate him?
It's not that other players don't need him, you know. :-\
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on April 20, 2010, 09:32:39 pm
Does that at least clear his inventory?
I don't know, but people say - yes, "atleast he'll not have that crap at inventory"- that's what I usually hear near by body.


And why exactly do you hate him?
It's not that other players don't need him, you know. :-\
When I was bombing NCR, he was killing my bomber with no reason, even if he was with 10 HP and no items at inventory.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: silverq on April 20, 2010, 09:42:13 pm
go live in other guarded towns. Personally I'd avoid coming to NCR. That place is too dangerous, too crowded. Dont see why players keep gathering there when they could see their own legs flying at any moment.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Surf on April 20, 2010, 09:51:17 pm
True. The Hub is pretty good, also Junktown or even the boneyard.
But it's still no excuse to kill NPC constantly because one "hates" them.  :-\

Anyway, it's not my decision what'll happen to him.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Kastion on April 20, 2010, 09:52:20 pm
I've noticed this being done to the bank NPC from time to time too, people running in and suicide bombing him.

I'm not sure if the respawn timer is the same but it felt a lot longer to me and takes quite a while for him to come back.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Wichura on April 20, 2010, 09:59:53 pm
go live in other guarded towns. Personally I'd avoid coming to NCR. That place is too dangerous, too crowded. Dont see why players keep gathering there when they could see their own legs flying at any moment.
+1
NCR is too overcrowded for me. Hell, even some unguarded cities seem to be more peaceful sometimes :>
I recommend Hub - after last wipe it's more "user-friendly" town.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on April 20, 2010, 10:04:50 pm
True. The Hub is pretty good, also Junktown or even the boneyard.
But it's still no excuse to kill NPC constantly because one "hates" them.  :-\

Anyway, it's not my decision what'll happen to him.
I live at Hub now, good city, but even there one NPC hates me and attack on sight, Tough Thug shoot at me each time I visit Hub from "Market" spot. So guards kill him after he attack me. I'm BoS-member, don't have too bad reputation with anyone except for raiders and VC.




Edit#2: Damned Sha Enin started to kill me on sigth too, like my bomber, now I hate him even more.



Edit#3: Ok, good GMs cleaned his head, and he stopped to kill me. May be I won't kill him for some time.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Lexx on April 20, 2010, 11:26:38 pm
You attacked him, then he attacks you until he killed you. If you want that to stop, don't attack him.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: vedaras on April 20, 2010, 11:46:51 pm
dudes there are much more towns than ncr, with much more traders then ncr have, and even safe! explore the fuckin wasteland instead of constant crying :> And now that we have 500 people on server, all towns have people so its not a problem neither.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Midnight on April 21, 2010, 12:30:20 am
Vedaras don't give them bad ideas we are well where we are, and it's good not crowded :p
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on April 21, 2010, 07:58:02 am
You attacked him, then he attacks you until he killed you. If you want that to stop, don't attack him.
But he doing that everytime I come to NCR, untill one of GMs cleaned his bugged head.
One of examples: he killed my bomber like 10 times, and I think he'll do it again and again.
My character died by this twice, and could even more, if no GMs.
This damned Sha Enin don't know how to count or has bad memory, because he want to kill me each time he see me.

P.S. My bomber exploded Sha Enin only 3 times! And first time Sha Enin ignored it, and hadn't anything again this. But after 2nd explosion he started to kill my bomber like 7-8 times in a row, and only then he remembered that he don't need to kill him anymore. So after 3rd explosion he hates my bomber forever.
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Midnight on April 21, 2010, 08:17:57 am
To me bombers are a game mechanic exploit so letting everyone get a memory about bombing is not a bad thing.
I would say come on, everyone keep saying "the wasteland is harsh", what i would anwser, the goal in the wastes is to survive.

A bomber is a suicide, that's the opposite. When you die it's generally not what you wanted and in terms of game respawning is not realy realist, but a feature so the game keep being playable.
Here we got characters that dies on purpose, so it's not realistic and it's nothing in term of gameplay, if a player want his character dead, he stop respawning him.
Sorry but i want my character dead but i keep him respawning is a nonsense in terms of game and roleplay in the wastes.

And this coming from guys saying roleplay things like how wastelands could be harsh as universal anwser, it's quite funny.
What goes around comes around. I have a game of my own and when guys exploit a bug or a game mechanics and all go wrong for them, let me say i don't fix it fast, in fact i take my time, cause hell, it's fun, they wanted to abuse the computer and he is the one who abuse them.
the real life is harsh :)

Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: Sarakin on April 21, 2010, 11:45:56 am
I live at Hub now, good city, but even there one NPC hates me and attack on sight, Tough Thug shoot at me each time I visit Hub from "Market" spot. So guards kill him after he attack me. I'm BoS-member, don't have too bad reputation with anyone except for raiders and VC.
BoS members have bad reputation with Hub Criminals -> Tough Thug
Title: Re: The constant NPC Merchant killing in NCR
Post by: RavenousRat on April 21, 2010, 12:50:23 pm
BoS members have bad reputation with Hub Criminals -> Tough Thug
Btw, it's a bit stupid each time appearing at Hub, and in few seconds after map loaded hear lots shots and then see lots guards running from over Hub to loot that poor thug. It's not a problem to take damage, because it's very low... but makes chaos at city and also scares away poor bluesuiters who think that it's war started, and then they running away in terror.