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Title: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Spiritwind on June 05, 2013, 11:09:32 am
Having just started again after not playing in over a year, I noticed that the server populations are quite low.  Is there any certain period of time people stopped playing?  I personally love all the new changes, so I doubt its that.

Anyways, perhaps we can come up with some ideas to get this game more popular!  Perhaps posting on gaming community sites; I have tons of friends I showed the game to that played Fallout 2+ and had never heard of this; and they loved/are loving it as well. 

If an arrangement could be made with Betesda, I think steam greenlight would love this game as a free to play.  I personally think Betesda sees that this game does not hurt their market; if anything it might bring some more fans to the genre. 

So, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 11:12:45 am
Another server(TLA mk2) got english translation and everybody moved there.

btw 2238 marketing: 0
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Spiritwind on June 05, 2013, 11:19:41 am
Another server(TLA mk2) got english translation and everybody moved there.

btw 2238 marketing: 0

So theres another server running?  Is it an official 2238 server?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 11:24:44 am
So theres another server running?  Is it an official 2238 server?
server made by different developers, click (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,28460.0.html).
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Spiritwind on June 05, 2013, 11:28:12 am
Ah, I see.  Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Spiritwind on June 05, 2013, 12:36:47 pm
I know you guys don't like doing this, but have you guys thought of doing a server to web api for a refer a friend system?  For instance, tie a character from the server to your forums profile, have a link generated for players to refer their friends, and then reward them like 100 caps for each friend they refer? 

It woulden't be that hard to work in, but I've noticed you guys try and stray away from giving out ingame items.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 05, 2013, 01:04:26 pm
then reward them like 100 caps for each friend they refer? 

Nope,2238 players would exploit a door if it would give them any kind of advantage.
That's the reason most of "fun" got removed.

Contacting Bethesda would probably be a bad idea.Imagine people who only played Fallout 3 coming to this server and then asking wheres the fat man.

But the whole other forums and word of mouth thing could probably work,probably.
Just everyone's too lazy to do it.
Also there's the fact that TLAmk2 seems to have brainwashed people and now they can't make a forum post without refering to it.

Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Wichura on June 05, 2013, 01:25:16 pm
Also there's the fact that TLAmk2 seems to have brainwashed people and now they can't make a forum post without refering to it.
For a very long time there was no reasonable alternative for 2238, so there was no server to make brains washed. And then, all of a sudden, russian server, filled with exploits, dual logs, dirty tricks, blah blah, sucked out 2238's population and attracted unknown number of dudes wanting to try Fallout with buddies.

It's not that TLA mk2 became woohoo so Wunderbar. It's 2238 that became worse and worse.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 05, 2013, 01:29:08 pm
It's 2238 that became worse and worse.
Wasn't the only thing that changed, before TLAmk2 became engrish, the stimpak staling nerf?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Wichura on June 05, 2013, 01:47:40 pm
I don't know really, I've quited playing 2238 long time ago and still can't find a reason to try it again.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: JovankaB on June 05, 2013, 02:00:50 pm
So basically you don't know what you talk about because you don't play the game since a year or longer
(before we even started more or less regular updates after last wipe and a few months of hiatus).
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Surf on June 05, 2013, 02:01:37 pm
2238 forum trolls blowing stuff out of proportion. More news at eleven.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Alvarez on June 05, 2013, 02:04:21 pm
Bracing for even more TLAmkII advertising.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 02:21:55 pm
I propose devs to make spam bots and attack every big forum with 2238 ads.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: sHoW. on June 05, 2013, 02:41:33 pm
So basically you don't know what you talk about because you don't play the game since a year or longer
(before we even started more or less regular updates after last wipe and a few months of hiatus).

nothing fanstastic.. we was waiting 2 months and what we got?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: JovankaB on June 05, 2013, 02:45:22 pm
I'm talking about whole last year dude, because AFAIR that's more less when Wichura stopped playing.
Maybe not too many completely new things were done, but I assure you, you wouldn't like the server to
be reverted to the state from a year ago.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Wipe on June 05, 2013, 02:47:31 pm
I propose devs to make spam bots and attack every big forum with 2238 ads.
Funny that you say it, you are no more than ad-bot itself.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: sHoW. on June 05, 2013, 02:48:58 pm
I dont care what about you are talking i just finally wanna say what i feel.

2009,2010,2011 was better than 2012(13).
From my view this losing quality as fast how it can..

Im done.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Senocular on June 05, 2013, 03:10:39 pm
So basically you don't know what you talk about because you don't play the game since a year or longer
(before we even started more or less regular updates after last wipe and a few months of hiatus).
At least he actually PLAYED it.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Kilgore on June 05, 2013, 03:13:54 pm
Nope,2238 players would exploit a door if it would give them any kind of advantage.
Been there, done that. In 2nd session (2009) there was a bug making you invisible if you stood in the door and allowed it to "autoclose". Avenger and inventory filled with 5mm was all you needed.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Furior on June 05, 2013, 03:17:22 pm
Maybe not too many completely new things were done, but I assure you, you wouldn't like the server to
be reverted to the state from a year ago.
You have made some updates but... alts:unfixed, BPs:unfixed, PvP balance:unfixed, quests: almost non-existent or irrelevant, and im sure there are more things. Yeah youve done some updates but Im still waiting for something bigger than taking flowers in klamath
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Lexx on June 05, 2013, 03:24:41 pm
Alts will never be "fixed" unless we kick out all character development options.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 04:21:51 pm
I dont care what about you are talking i just finally wanna say what i feel.

2009,2010,2011 was better than 2012(13).
From my view this losing quality as fast how it can..

Im done.
You are quite funny, I remember you less than 6 months ago you were a 80hp bluesuit and now you're talking about 2009 and 2010.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: sHoW. on June 05, 2013, 05:30:56 pm
You are quite funny, I remember you less than 6 months ago you were a 80hp bluesuit and now you're talking about 2009 and 2010.

I dont ever was used that name.. i dont also used forum account.. This dont mean i wasnt played other sessions..
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Hololasima on June 05, 2013, 05:58:11 pm
Been there, done that. In 2nd session (2009) there was a bug making you invisible if you stood in the door and allowed it to "autoclose". Avenger and inventory filled with 5mm was all you needed.

Hey, that was our bug  :P That one was best bug in this game.


To the topic. Probably most of people you will call, will be quite dissapointed. Because of harshness, small playerbase, empty world.
Anyway, i remember when some developer say that they dont need more testers than themself(or just few of them). So no advertising needed. Developers will develop this server more or less without any of us  ;)
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 05, 2013, 06:03:36 pm
Bracing for even more TLAmkII advertising.

bracing for more delusional people. like you.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DocAN. on June 05, 2013, 06:34:21 pm
Face the true, 2238 i far away behind TLA mk2. TLA features and quest makes it true Fallout 3 and it gives PvP posiblities which was the domain of 2238. TLA faction system, management and rating system keeps players playing.

No matter how much You will advise 2238, if it wont change, then people will find on forum that there is better server.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Marko on June 05, 2013, 06:35:42 pm
DocAN: I'm not disagreeing with you but i did get a laugh when you say TLA is better but your signature says TLA is OFFLINE and 2238 has 64 players lol.

The updates have been excellent ever since i started almost 2 years ago. The player migration to TLA2 is not because 2238 "has gotten worse" since 2238 has in fact gotten only better. The two servers are apparently run differently. For example, i hear the Russians don't micromanage much in TLA; they allow stuff that 2238 limits. This might be perceived as harsh. It's not. It's just different, and preferred by some hardcore players here. Also, not all 2238 players who quit went to TLA. Some came here hopeful, and were murdered over and over by the few players they met and determined the PK-to-nonPK ratio to be unreasonable, so they just quit.

On lack of quests: write some yourself! Get the dev tools, the mapper, the dialogue editor, and design some content for the game you spend so much time playing. Get help from a dev to get started and become a more serious contributor. But first step back and consider how immature it is to PLAY a game and COMPLAIN about it, but never actually ADD any code content yourself.

The real harshness here is not in the code at all. It's some of the players. But it's up to the game staff to fix that and i'm not one of them. (FYI: i am available for operation Troll-Purge if any mods want the help.)
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DocAN. on June 05, 2013, 06:40:36 pm
Players made choice and its shows which server is more player friendly and it is not 2238.

It is usless to makes something for 2238 and its devs fault, there are better projects with far way better interaction from devs side.

PS. You will have o edit your post when TLA will go up.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 05, 2013, 06:42:00 pm
marko, the only reason you like 2238 and defend it is because you hoard items non-stop to satisfy your compulsive hoarding. it would be a shame to move to TLA and start over again and not have filled lockers of stuff, innit?

and please, don't turn this discussion into PK/APK bullshit. it has nothing to do with players moving to TLA.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 06:42:17 pm
Players made choice and its shows which server is more player friendly and it is not 2238.

And You will have o edit your post when TLA will go up.
So i guess when TLA server is off you just come here and spam about TLA?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Marko on June 05, 2013, 06:52:15 pm
What items? I have 2 Gauss pistols and a metal pole. If i was playing this game to hoard items, i would not have time to get 20 cars, 17 bases, and almost 40 maxed chars. I was new here in 2010 and i needed to progress up the learning curve, so i dove in and played as hard as i could with hours on the planner. Now even my crafters are hard to kill and my miner kills anybody in Hinkley 1v1. I added tons of stuff to wiki, writing a walk-through guide for new players, and trying to make some maps and quests.

Meanwhile what have you done? Only murdered new guys and driven them away to other games. No contributions from you at all, right? Your forum posts are always incendiary. Guess which troll i would purge first.

Update! TLA still down. Meanwhile 60+ players in 2238, albeit perhaps 20 of them being murdered atm lol.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 05, 2013, 06:57:08 pm
What items? I have 2 Gauss pistols and a metal pole. If i was playing this game to hoard items, i would not have time to get 20 cars, 17 bases, and almost 40 maxed chars.
you do not have time to hoard, yet you admit to hoarding. i KNOW you have/had a brahmin packed with 6-7k HQ minerals.

Now even my crafters are hard to kill and my miner kills anybody in Hinkley 1v1.
somehow i doubt that.

I added tons of stuff to wiki, writing a walk-through guide for new players, and trying to make some maps and quests.
you added a bunch of crappy characters to the wiki no sane person would use, and probably some walkthrough guides for some quests that yet again nobody uses because of the shitty XP reward for quests in this game.

Meanwhile what have you done? Only murdered new guys and driven them away to other games. No contributions from you at all, right? Your forum posts are always incendiary. Guess which troll i would purge first.
wasteland is harsh. but let's play a post-apoc game by your vision shall we? getting carpal tunnel from all the "fix" pressing and doing the same boring quest and pve over and over again.

PS: basically the people that don't agree with you are trolls and should be banned, silenced, etc... good communist thinking you got there, marko!
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Marko on June 05, 2013, 07:08:32 pm
Mining. Not hoarding. So i mined a lot. So much that it freaks you out i guess. Do you work at all?

DDope, bring your best fighters to Hinkley sometime when we have time in an evening. I will bring 1 miner and we will cycle through as many fights as you want (as long as drugs last). I will gladly show you that "miners rule".

I have had good feedback from constructive-minded people about the builds on wiki. In some cases i have modified them accordingly. Meanwhile you have added ZERO builds there. See the comparison?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 05, 2013, 07:15:12 pm
Mining. Not hoarding. So i mined a lot. So much that it freaks you out i guess. Do you work at all?
hoarding means getting insane ammouts of items and keeping them, for no apparent later use. do you even know english or the meaning of the verb "to hoard"? work? it'd rather burst some bluesuit miner behind the back and take all his shit.  ;D


DDope, bring your best fighters to Hinkley sometime when we have time in an evening. I will bring 1 miner and we will cycle through as many fights as you want (as long as drugs last). I will gladly show you that "miners rule".
as soon as i have the time, sure.

I have had good feedback from constructive-minded people about the builds on wiki. In some cases i have modified them accordingly. Meanwhile you have added ZERO builds there. See the comparison?
constructive-minded people = people who are your friends and/or agree with you?

i have a small question. what exactly did you do to help noobs?
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Marko on June 05, 2013, 07:21:08 pm
So...you suggest i mine for no use? I mined that much so i could make stuff to sell, to trade, and to use in combat. It takes a lot of ammo to max 40 characters. See this is what you do a lot: you make stuff up. It is as if your mind is overthrown by some evil force and you delight in throwing people off a topic. The topic of this thread is about low player population. It's not another place for you to express your hatred of other players.

Back to topic now, and i look forward to our matches in Hinkley.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: DeputyDope on June 05, 2013, 07:22:25 pm

Back to topic now, and i look forward to our matches in Hinkley.

i look forward to seeing your response of what you did to help noobs, and how your presence gets players to stay on the server.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Cyber Jesus on June 05, 2013, 08:46:47 pm
I bet that Marko's miner is some hth troll, thats why he sais he can win every time in 1v1.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Wichura on June 05, 2013, 11:39:54 pm
All the same story over and over - how to attract players using Facebook and spam on forums.

So basically you don't know what you talk about because you don't play the game since a year or longer
(before we even started more or less regular updates after last wipe and a few months of hiatus).
Yet I see no reason to start playing again, reading changelogs is discouraging enough.

Bracing for even more TLAmkII advertising.
I don't play there either. Was nice to try, but not much attractive for a longer time period.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: headshot on June 06, 2013, 01:47:20 am
What can you do? Stop whining, maybe?

FOnline, when we compare it to other games has:
- Poor visuals
- Poor sound
- Almost dead community
- Low level of communication  between playerbase and developers.

It's like telling today's kids to play Quake II instead of Battlefield 3. Possible but you need some strong arguments. ;)

As for me the only chance of FOnline games, no matter if it's TLA, 2238 or this homemade servers for 5 players total is the atmospheric gameplay, content and more GM/Dev support for players' initiatives.

If you spam on forums or on Facebook... good idea but have in mind that FOnline is adressed mostly to Fallout fans. All you need to reach the goal is just motivation.

Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Senocular on June 06, 2013, 02:25:59 am
FOnline, when we compare it to other games has:
- Poor visuals
- Poor sound
How those 2 matter? This game simply isn't aimed at current generation. Entire FOnline community has a fixed amount of people. Thinking about fresh blood is daydreaming. Only thing you can do is to prevent current players from leaving.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on June 06, 2013, 05:32:05 am
pacman time!
come join me on mame!
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Knife_cz on June 06, 2013, 02:01:36 pm

FOnline, when we compare it to other games has:
- Poor visuals
- Poor sound
Honestly when even the damned Minecraft got so popular between the kids (Althought its much easier to understand the..concept of the game), Graphics and sounds never really mattered in games.
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Spiritwind on June 06, 2013, 08:31:55 pm
Wow, remind me not to create any more polls where I ask people to help the server...
Title: Re: What can we do - Server Popularity?
Post by: Rane on June 23, 2013, 07:56:32 am
Quote from: marko
So...you suggest i mine for no use? I mined that much so i could make stuff to sell, to trade, and to use in combat. It takes a lot of ammo to max 40 characters. See this is what you do a lot: you make stuff up. It is as if your mind is overthrown by some evil force and you delight in throwing people off a topic. The topic of this thread is about low player population. It's not another place for you to express your hatred of other players.

Back to topic now, and i look forward to our matches in Hinkley.

i look forward to seeing your response of what you did to help noobs, and how your presence gets players to stay on the server.

You pulled marko's card and he comes at you with his old catholic: "this guy must be possessed" bullshit. He used to talk this way about Nightkin/Apox all the time. Way to call his shit. He stole combat armor blueprints he was working to get with a friend of mine early this season then proceeded to hoard them from his entire faction until it was completely devalued by the nerfs. All because of his self righteous whiteknight bullshit he's still pulling to this day.

Then he comes to town control with a mauser just to spite and taunt his allies.

The only reason he had to make 40 bases is because he wanted to and no other faction wanted to put up with this unrealistic bossy hoarder.

All those minerals and he never contributed anything of worth to any faction other than passive aggressive, judgements, authority humping and lets not forget the whining.

He prioritized personal bases not even his RL friends could have access too.

On more than one occasion we tested marko on his claims about always helping newbs.

With RP newb chars we would hunt with marko to test his honesty to some random wastelander newb. He would use them as a hunting partner for farming mundane crafting supplies like brahmin hides and min/ore and caps, offer to SHARE the first tent with the RP newbie, then proceed to skim off the labour of the newbie. Rather than helping the newb to XP up fast by knocking out human NPCs and giving build advice he would use them as cattle and im not surprised if the actual players who experienced this thought fOnline was nothing but a boring click/gather fest.

The reason marko likes new players so damn much is because the old players are sick of his shit and if it wasn't for newbs he would have NO one to hunt with or exploit for his cause.

Even now he's still clearly trying to kiss ass in hopes of becoming a forum gm weeks before the server is going to die for good.
(the audacity of his whiteknightery is truly astounding)
Marko the dev's aren't damsels in distress that need you to save them and neither is this game, at its highest or lowest point.

Your inability to work in a team outside of the pve, gather/crafter environment and your lust for power grabbing made you a cancer for any group foolish enough to trust you.

You're pathetic marko and people who leave a game they enjoy a lot because of you or any pker are even more pathetic than you.