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Title: Mining in random encounters
Post by: 700noob007 on May 16, 2013, 07:14:40 am
The idea of this is simple it will be just like any random encounter, but it will be more rare such as  1 out of every 5 random encounters will contain a mine-able rocks but they will a luckier chance such as you'll find minerals and iron much more likely then you'll find a Uranium


Just an idea feedback appreciated.

[insult removed]
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Alvarez on May 16, 2013, 08:17:23 am
It was this like in previous sessions. Bots were standing in encounters and hammered rocks day and night, because there was a cooldown of 6 minutes after you got some ore.

This could work out this session, though, because of predators and limited ressources in encounters. Would be a nice alternative to mines.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: the underground on May 16, 2013, 09:24:09 am
I like it.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 03:41:22 pm
Quote from: Alvarez on May 16, 2013, 08:17:23 am
It was this like in previous sessions. Bots were standing in encounters and hammered rocks day and night, because there was a cooldown of 6 minutes after you got some ore.

This could work out this session, though, because of predators and limited ressources in encounters. Would be a nice alternative to mines.
Yes, mines are just, places that you go with your brahmin and take out all the ore, imho it's stupid.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 04:34:29 pm
Encounters are just safe grindy places where a chance to meet another player is close to 0.
Don't like it. I don't like farming in encounters at all. I think we should move as much of it as
possible to public locations (for fast farming) and to bases (for investments that you pay for
that give you slow return over time).
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Floodnik on May 16, 2013, 04:41:28 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 04:34:29 pm
Encounters are just safe grindy places where a chance to meet another player is close to 0.
Don't like it. I don't like farming in encounters at all. I think we should move as much of it as
possible to public locations (for fast farming) and to bases (as investments that you pay for
that give you slow return over time).
On the other hand we should give multiple options to players for them to enjoy different ways of doing stuff.
I also think your argument about player interaction in mines is invalid. Even today it's rare. When two players meet in a mine(we're talking about the safe ones -  with low quality resources) they often ignore eachother, get what they came for and leave. That's it, that's why the suggestion is good.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Senocular on May 16, 2013, 04:47:32 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 04:34:29 pm
Encounters are just safe grindy places where a chance to meet another player is close to 0.
Make mining possible only in certain areas of the WM (mountains).

Suddenly the chance to meet others rises!
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: DeputyDope on May 16, 2013, 04:53:48 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 04:34:29 pm
I don't like farming in encounters at all.

so you want to remove TB?
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Lexx on May 16, 2013, 04:59:50 pm
I personally wouldn't mind removing tb.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 05:10:52 pm
Quote from: DeputyDope on May 16, 2013, 04:53:48 pm
so you want to remove TB?

I meant stuff like aquiring fibres or mining, not PvE. Does anyone like collecting junk?
I prefer to go to a public location where things spawn all the time, not re-enter encounters
and run to grid over and over...
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Alvarez on May 16, 2013, 06:02:52 pm
But junk barrels being camped by bots was bad, though.

Encounters arent safe anymore because of predators, but as Floodnik said, its about alternatives, eg, Junk being mineable from walls of Junktown. Or one or another piece in encounter, so a player can say, "screw the grind, im going to the unguarded mine"

Lexx, removing TB would scare off PvEers.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: xsarq on May 16, 2013, 06:08:36 pm
I hate when i`m forced to battle in RT. I know its faster, more skill intensive etc etc.
I just enjoy playing in tb more than in rt.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: vedaras on May 16, 2013, 06:10:02 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 04:34:29 pm
Encounters are just safe grindy places where a chance to meet another player is close to 0.
Don't like it. I don't like farming in encounters at all. I think we should move as much of it as
possible to public locations (for fast farming) and to bases (for investments that you pay for
that give you slow return over time).

have you even played early obt? in certain areas where findind rocks near ncr chance was great, like 80% encounters were player encounters and you talking bullshit like this. Damn, just damn. As developing like that continues i have less and less to say.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: DeputyDope on May 16, 2013, 06:13:25 pm
Quote from: Alvarez on May 16, 2013, 06:02:52 pm

Lexx, removing TB would scare off PvEers.

you mean the players that still play?
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 06:17:07 pm
If wipe happens theoretically, and TB woul have been removed, noone would play, because noone wants to grid stuff again, for sure not trying to PVE stuff like Enclave or BoS patrol.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:03:31 pm
Quote from: vedaras on May 16, 2013, 06:10:02 pm
have you even played early obt? in certain areas where findind rocks near ncr chance was great, like 80% encounters were player encounters and you talking bullshit like this. Damn, just damn. As developing like that continues i have less and less to say.

Why would you mine ore next to NCR like some noob. You were doing it wrong, you should start your mining
bots in a dark corner of the world map and go sleep:

(http://fonline2238.net/~wipe/pics/index.php?cmd=image&sfpg=MjIzOC9PdGhlci8qOEZTTloucG5nKjhmNmM3NTY2OWU0NGJjZDI1OWE2NTRhMDMxZjMxNTgx)
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 07:12:15 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:03:31 pm
Why would you mine ore next to NCR like some noob. You were doing it wrong, you should start your mining
bots in a dark corner of the world map and go sleep:

(http://fonline2238.net/~wipe/pics/index.php?cmd=image&sfpg=MjIzOC9PdGhlci8qOEZTTloucG5nKjhmNmM3NTY2OWU0NGJjZDI1OWE2NTRhMDMxZjMxNTgx)
predator encounters, remember, what has been added lately? dev plx.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:16:26 pm
Doesn't change the fact that the encounters are in practice 99% safe, even if they aren't
cheatable with bots. So only LQ ores could be there and they are easily accessible in existing
guarded mines. What would be the difference except you would have to re-enter them all over,
compared to any guarded mine?

Perhaps something like buying a map to one-time PvE mine with real enemies that you have
to fight to get to the HQ ore.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: BLDYMSS on May 16, 2013, 07:19:47 pm
Quote from: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 07:12:15 pm
predator encounters, remember, what has been added lately? dev plx.
Bots could just enter encounters in TB mode, no predators there.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 07:20:27 pm
Quote from: BLDYMSS on May 16, 2013, 07:19:47 pm
Bots could just enter encounters in TB mode, no predators there.
Where did you get thta info? I was hunting for slaves in TB, and still encountering predators.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: BLDYMSS on May 16, 2013, 07:21:42 pm
Quote from: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 07:20:27 pm
Where did you get thta info? I was hunting for slaves in TB, and still encountering predators.
Really?
Must have been changed then.. In the beginning when predators came up, they only came when in RT.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:21:52 pm
There is no predators in TB, if you got some then it is a bug.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: BLDYMSS on May 16, 2013, 07:23:27 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:21:52 pm
There is no predators in TB, if you got some then it is a bug.
Maybe one of the classic "both modes" bug.
I always got bugs when i used that option. Never knew what "both modes" was good for anyway..
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Tomowolf on May 16, 2013, 07:23:42 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:21:52 pm
There is no predators in TB, if you got some then it is a bug.
Still if they aren't in TB, they should appear.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Senocular on May 16, 2013, 07:26:18 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 07:16:26 pm
Perhaps something like buying a map to one-time PvE mine with real enemies that you have
to fight to get to the HQ ore.
Mining can't be regarded as a reward.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Admiral Zombie on May 16, 2013, 09:04:27 pm
Quote from: JovankaB on May 16, 2013, 05:10:52 pm
I meant stuff like aquiring fibres or mining, not PvE. Does anyone like collecting junk?
I prefer to go to a public location where things spawn all the time, not re-enter encounters
and run to grid over and over...

A subtle hint that we may be getting more ways to acquire blueprints perhaps?
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: the underground on May 16, 2013, 10:42:39 pm
Quote from: Lexx on May 16, 2013, 04:59:50 pm
I personally wouldn't mind removing tb.
Make it rt only, and most of us will bounce.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: the underground on May 16, 2013, 10:45:02 pm
Quote from: JovankaB link=topic=29081.msg253231#msg253231
Does anyone like collecting junk?
I do it all the time.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: Admiral Zombie on May 16, 2013, 10:57:51 pm
Edit your responses rather than double posting, other than that

The question whether people collect junk, but if they enjoy the junk collecting system. It is different from all of the other resource collection, which is kind of nice. Going to a mine, or going to a broken computer location, etc, all are very similar. Junk is very different, some variation is good, although I would agree the junk collection system isn't ideal. Chopping wood, harvesting fruit, and plant fibers are fairly similar, junk collection is just a little slower.


And i'm assuming Lexx's comment was just a statement of opinion rather than any sort of plan.
Title: Re: Mining in random encounters
Post by: the underground on May 16, 2013, 11:07:51 pm
In that case, no I do not enjoy collecting junk. Not anymoreso than mining or fruit or any other resourcing.
BTW what I hate is fibers. I always get pked by a minigun fag when harvesting fibers.