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Title: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 05, 2013, 08:10:28 pm
well , the server looks like its finaly dead, 62 players online. i know what the reason is. Its because JovankaB keeps makeing these pointless and stupied updates becoming a control freak and doesnt understand the game, and the person who JovankaB male/female should of just stayed a gm because this person has really ruined and damaged the game, i mean nerfing shoveling shit , and stupied pointless things like this this is just one example. its absolute bollocks. she has become a crazy dictator like hitler ( bin ladin ) like this crazy koeren fucker kim something i forgotten name. people are leaving the server because this game has become a shambles (this mean its gone crap and fucked up) because of her stupied updates and breaking the game, this person has completley ruined this game its not fun anymore to play, 62 players online the rest have moved to the tla server because this game has just gone crazy with stupied ideas it not kept simple anymore. the reason for this post is how many of us think that she should be kicked from the devs team, and let other devs hopefully try to save this game, personaly i think that the server needs a wipe because of the damage done and maybe try to have a fresh start without her being a dev?
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Senocular on April 05, 2013, 08:18:39 pm
I miss the times when you could brahmins in your tent to shit for you and "farm" exp.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: davrot on April 05, 2013, 08:19:07 pm
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Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 05, 2013, 08:32:49 pm
Foffline: 2238 deceased in December 2011. The wipe was its coup de grace.

JovankaB's unholy ascension to demonhood , no, actually  initiation rite into evil witchcraft uhh I mean turning into a vampire boar, eh catworship satanic-demon-witch-heretic, devoid of our savior Jesus grace uhh...
... anyway whatever it was, it was just le fin de siècle.
(The apex, the final sin, the peak, exclusively translated for the uneducated peasants and engrish talking polacks/czech amongst you.)

Rest in pieces, 2238. Missed be the massive amount of time I wasted on you.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: -Max Payne- on April 05, 2013, 08:53:49 pm
It's sure that we have a really problem..

I don't know if it's because of update or if it is just because all players are bored of the game and go on TLA.

But if you don't want to see the server closed, GM's must be do something, after all update we lost more and more players, we need to know why, may be the GM's need to talk with Factions members, and do what the PVP's players really want, if they dont do it, server will be probably dead in some months.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Wichura on April 05, 2013, 08:55:12 pm
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Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: vedaras on April 05, 2013, 09:00:17 pm
im pro, i agree
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: xsarq on April 05, 2013, 09:01:20 pm
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Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 05, 2013, 09:04:02 pm
no seriously the game this time has gotten seriously damaged , like max payne said the game has gotten boring becauwse of these updates , its gotten to the point where the game sucks and everyone is fucking off to tla, really i love fonline 2238 its amazing but its been ruined and becomeing total bollocks and unplayable, last session the devs nearly had it they nerly made this game really really amazing but now its gone to bollocks because people becoming devs who dont have a clue what players want.
tla server is good but not the best , and fonline used to be the best server and everyone didnt play other servers what the fuck has happend why are the devs letting this happen? the game is getting ruined, really bad please dev make updates to improve game not ruin it, really no1 plays anymore if you noticed there is no more tcs, nothing even ncr is getting dead. i know you have real jobs and lifes but try and fix this game bfore its to late

who argrees seriously no troll posts
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 05, 2013, 09:08:18 pm
(http://www.troll.me/images/facepalm-picard/not-this-shit-again.jpg)
I lol'd while reading this.
62 players means server is dead haha
Remember when FOT came out?40 players online max.
Or (as I've mentioned this before,and I will do it again) the rollback days:28 online during weekends.

Just because you and your nice friends don't like it doesn't mean everyone has to know/care about it.

And don't forget this isn't happening because of the super stim nerf (which was well justified) it's because TLAmk2 promises something new,something fun,promises prosperous future,blackjack,hookers.etc. whatever this and other servers promised before their population dropped.





Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Mayck on April 05, 2013, 09:12:05 pm
2238 is like Schrödinger's cat
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 05, 2013, 09:12:58 pm
62 players means server is dead haha
62 players on this server with this big map means you can't find shit to kill. means it's boring.

Remember when FOT came out?40 players online max.
remember when FOT came out? 40 players but you could find action anywhere. and it had 40 people because it wasn't that well polished. and it had 40 people after few days.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Mike Crosser on April 05, 2013, 09:23:02 pm
62 players on this server with this big map means you can't find shit to kill. means it's boring.
remember when FOT came out? 40 players but you could find action anywhere. and it had 40 people because it wasn't that well polished. and it had 40 people after few days.

N,no i mean 2238 had 40 (maybe 60 can't remember exactly) players since everyone decided fot was the way to go
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Wichura on April 05, 2013, 09:25:35 pm
even ncr is getting dead
I think that's the main reason this thread to exist.

who argrees seriously no troll posts
And if someone disagrees or simply doesn't give a shit anymore?
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 05, 2013, 09:36:42 pm
Either this will turn into something else, or it will slowly wither and die.
My wits say it's version one, tho my heart and mind prays and hopes for the rotting 2238 :)

ROT IN PEACE !
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: greenthumb on April 05, 2013, 09:47:56 pm
This game is still shaping, number of players is not any extraordinary, it was higher also lower.
Since TLAMKII wiped, many players just moved there for indefinit period. Nothing to do about this, they are bored with 2238 like they will be bored with TLAmkII in few months(probably less).Mix of players currently playing is hardcore fans who are mostly PVP oriented, addicts who will not leave the game no matter what ;), unstable players who are searching for their goals but are never happy no matter what, and few newcomers who leave or become one of previous. This game is what it is, deal with it your way.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 05, 2013, 09:55:08 pm
Since TLAMKII wiped, many players just moved there for indefinit period. Nothing to do about this, they are bored with 2238 like they will be bored with TLAmkII in few months(probably less).
Wrong, they are not bored with 2238, they are annoyed with the attitude of certain dev's who do not catch up with their (sane, as opposed to former) expectations.

Mix of players currently playing is hardcore fans who are mostly PVP oriented, addicts who will not leave the game no matter what ;), unstable players who are searching for their goals but are never happy no matter what, and few newcomers who leave or become one of previous. This game is what it is, deal with it your way.

Did you come up with this bullshit by yourself ?
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 05, 2013, 09:56:32 pm
only ncr noobs think and treat JovankaB like a god or something when shes ruining the game, if new players start fonline they will quite within hour this is how bad its getting and if they dont quite and they will be hurt by the time they spent leveling a alt and when they find another server which is better, players do give a shit wichura , people are whinning because fonline228 has become super crap, before this game was copeable but now this bullshit, mike you are a noob so dont even bother posting on this thread you dont understand the game either. deputy dope yes you are right about going around trying to find people to kill but its not just that, you cant even find people to farm with anymore , hunt, its poitnelss playing this game if there is noone around to play it with , this is why its a mulitplayer , not single , fuck i would play fallout 2 or one if i didnt want to play with other people on this server , but JovankaB has ruined it now and everyone is fuckign off to tla because of her or his stupied fucking updates , all of them are just stupied , yea people are whinning and crying about it because the devs need to know what the gamers think , if you dont whine or tell the devs you disagree who will listen, read the channel log  atleast over half of the population thats even left in fonline 2238 disagree with the updates and are not happy and have left the server, all pvpers have left the population also, and this is not just because tla is now a better server which pisses me off but because this game has been so damaged people dont want to come back like i said best thing to do is to wipe the server and start fresh delete some of the updates made and make this better game again, get players back show them that fonline is the best server again, most players left last time because we waited like 1 year for 1 fuckign update , and when u do update you decide to make it shit , kick jov from dev team start fresh honestly. and what vile said is absolutely right to that comment to greenthumb there not bored there annoyed with this fucking bullshit
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 05, 2013, 10:00:20 pm
Who does care? <- This question should be in topic.
If you don't like it, go make your own server or play on existing ones, simple.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 05, 2013, 10:03:01 pm
Everyone who doesn't enjoy RPing a brahmin herder and plays the guitar with his dick.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 05, 2013, 10:04:09 pm
Everyone who doesn't enjoy RPing a brahmin herder and plays the guitar with his dick.
So mean, should I cry now or call for mod help?
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 05, 2013, 10:05:32 pm
Who does care? <- This question should be in topic.
If you don't like it, go make your own server or play on existing ones, simple.

because i got nothing better to do than make my own server. AWESOME SUGGESTION THERE GENIUS!!!!!!!1111111
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 05, 2013, 10:06:04 pm
So mean, should I cry now or call for mod help?
I choose both. If you feel offended, I insist you do !
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 05, 2013, 10:11:17 pm
who the hell is tomowolf anyways, the reason im suggesting this is because i like this server and dont want it to go to shit like it already has , fuck read what im saying , yea i dont like it , its fucking bullshit, but the reason i want it to change like i said before is because i dont want to game to goto shit , fuckinghell
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: vedaras on April 05, 2013, 10:23:37 pm
i think we should troll this topic  8)
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 05, 2013, 10:32:58 pm
who the hell is tomowolf anyways, the reason im suggesting this is because i like this server and dont want it to go to shit like it already has , fuck read what im saying , yea i dont like it , its fucking bullshit, but the reason i want it to change like i said before is because i dont want to game to goto shit , fuckinghell
I'm here since 4 years, counting the time on TLA, and you know shit.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 05, 2013, 10:34:41 pm
I'm here since 4 years, counting the time on TLA, and you know shit.

you're here for 4 years and you make shitty characters still? you must be really pro.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 05, 2013, 10:37:40 pm
you're here for 4 years and you make shitty characters still? you must be really pro.
I don't care for the build, but playing the game overall, if you got some serious problem about it, contact doc.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 05, 2013, 10:40:01 pm
I don't care for the build, but playing the game overall, if you got some serious problem about it, contact doc.

you were the one acting like boss around here, telling "chosen soldiers" he doesn't know shit.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 05, 2013, 10:44:34 pm
you were the one acting like boss around here, telling "chosen soldiers" he doesn't know shit.
Because writing "server is shit do something or i quit" is not a statement, but bullshit, and should be erased along with the post maker.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 05, 2013, 10:50:44 pm
Because writing "server is shit do something or i quit" is not a statement, but bullshit, and should be erased along with the post maker.

because everyone who gives a crap about this game should have his topics deleted or be banned. attitudes like yours make me sick.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Mrockatansky on April 05, 2013, 10:56:54 pm
(http://x35.img-up.net/Thereareba9c7a.png)

...and guess which one are leaving.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Wichura on April 05, 2013, 11:05:59 pm
Both.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 06, 2013, 12:14:45 am
Because writing "server is shit do something or i quit" is not a statement, but bullshit, and should be erased along with the post maker.

i didnt say i was going to quite :D read the post proppa before you say facts that aint true, i said lets wipe the game start fresh and kick jov from dev team, and get rid of stupied updates and try to get this game back into shape instead of it becoming crap, you have some stupied attitude read the post. duhhh
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:18:15 am
i didnt say i was going to quite :D read the post proppa before you say facts that aint true, i said lets wipe the game start fresh and kick jov from dev team, and get rid of stupied updates and try to get this game back into shape instead of it becoming crap, you have some stupied attitude read the post. duhhh
Kick Jov from Dev team, and have updates(even shitteir) once per 3 years, thanks, but sorry - no.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 06, 2013, 12:30:59 am
Kick Jov from Dev team, and have updates(even shitteir) once per 3 years, thanks, but sorry - no.

i'd rather have no updates rather than updates that keep changing the game in even more unpredictable ways that fuck up the characters you worked on leveling.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:32:36 am
i'd rather have no updates rather than updates that keep changing the game in even more unpredictable ways that fuck up the characters you worked on leveling.
Why then are you crying about another alts, if you know that it's beta (even if it will always be) and everything will be wiped from time to time?
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: chosen soldiers on April 06, 2013, 12:34:16 am
no your wrong , seriously you need to open your eyes and see whats happerning here, soon noone will play this game really im not here to post for arguments im here to just get my point across and on chanelog i see that people agree with me
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:41:13 am
no your wrong , seriously you need to open your eyes and see whats happerning here, soon noone will play this game really im not here to post for arguments im here to just get my point across and on chanelog i see that people agree with me
I know what's going on. The way to get easy ss,mfc and 5mm ap got broken, and it's crafting recipe got changed, but that's a small change compared to the PVP faction already having tons of stuff, while newbies not.
With such changes wipe should come, but still we got fancy TC boxes which spawn shitload of stuff for free...
FOnline:2238 was set to be "Faction mod" but you forgot that faction does not only PVP together but should collect stuff.
From my observation playing together, gave more advantages, and speeded up the process getting to the PVP battles, instead we got some rage gamers which ARE in factions but they play separatly, and getting stuff for them is way harder.
"Communism" in factions gives you advantages but you can get robbed by one greedy member <- that's main disadv.
People will still play this game, to kill few geckos together with 2 friends, or craft 10mm pistols for teh lulz and to feel like MadMaxWanabees.
If you want pure PVP then go FODE or TLAmk2, and do not shit all time in one bucket, it's filled up already.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Senocular on April 06, 2013, 12:41:49 am
I don't know why people are under the impression that Jovanka made all the changes in past few changelogs? The fact that she posted the topics ain't any proof.

I'm just wondering what happened to people like Scypior and Atom in the dev team.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:42:50 am
I'm just wondering what happened to people like Scypior and Atom in the dev team.
Real life got own rights.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 06, 2013, 12:47:23 am
Why then are you crying about another alts, if you know that it's beta (even if it will always be) and everything will be wiped from time to time?

dude wtf are you even talking about? you NEED alts in this game to compete. but if alts keep getting fucked one way or the other with each update because there is no set goal in this game's development, then there's a problem. again with this beta crap? "beta" argument is as old as dinosaurs and it's not even worth talking about because it has nothing to do with what people want.

is it so much to ask for to be told what are devs working on, consulting the players if it's worth implementing or not? is it so much to ask for this server's stability? right now shit changes almost at random with every update.


If you want pure PVP then go FODE or TLAmk2, and do not shit all time in one bucket, it's filled up already.

oh so now you're saying this game isn't pure PVP? ok, genius, tell me what else there's to be done in this game besides boring PVE crap/quests that are on other servers aswell.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: manero on April 06, 2013, 12:49:49 am
Tomowolf pretends to be the biggest ass licker ive ever seen on this forum board oO
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:54:23 am
dude wtf are you even talking about? you NEED alts in this game to compete. but if alts keep getting fucked one way or the other with each update because there is no set goal in this game's development, then there's a problem. again with this beta crap? "beta" argument is as long as dinosaurs and it's not even worth talking about because it has nothing to do with what people want.

is it so much to ask for to be told what are devs working on, consulting the players if it's worth implementing or not? is it so much to ask for this server's stability? right now shit changes almost at random with every update.
Dude, first thing: Alts to compete in what? What's the goal in game? To hoard all the stuff? To rule wasteland(vedaras, we know you're the king)? To get all rares? And for what, if all stuff got to be erased from time to time.
I'm not using the "beta" word, because It seems to make angry all people around, but it's true - this is indie project made by hipster developers which add updates when they want and when it's done by their will, not for players, and not by players will, so basically people just don't have a voice there.
Second thing: They don't like community for it's behaviour, it was stated somewhere that there's no plain concept, or just line of ideas that needs to be implemented, also community is bitching EVERY feature - remember influence?,new gathering system?blueprints? Yes, players got right to bitch those features because all of em were bugged and were made like on knee or while doing a big goo in toilet, just fast enough to be usable in small percentage, but usable.
That's the minus point for the DEVs, adding crippled ideas to the game, but if they wouldn't even add those, we would have to play on other servers.

Tomowolf pretends to be the biggest ass licker ive ever seen on this forum board oO
gm plox.

oh so now you're saying this game isn't pure PVP? ok, genius, tell me what else there's to be done in this game besides boring PVE crap/quests that are on other servers aswell.
Yes, It isn't pure PVP, because it's also crippled for majority of players, only veterans know how to win, and get their TC reward(which is just sad, not funny). I don't know what's there else to do, I won't talk about endgame features, because it's mmo and you have choice to do anything there if you can.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: manero on April 06, 2013, 12:57:03 am
gm plox.

You lick anus like lolipop.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 12:57:42 am
You lick anus like lolipop.
Lolipop doesn't lick anuses :(.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 06, 2013, 12:58:56 am
Dude, first thing: Alts to compete in what? What's the goal in game? To hoard all the stuff? To rule wasteland(vedaras, we know you're the king)? To get all rares? And for what, if all stuff got to be erased from time to time.
I'm not using the "beta" word, because It seems to make angry all people around, but it's true - this is indie project made by hipster developers which add updates when they want and when it's done by their will, not for players, and not by players will, so basically people just don't have a voice there.
Second thing: They don't like community for it's behaviour, it was stated somewhere that there's no plain concept, or just line of ideas that needs to be implemented, also community is bitching EVERY feature - remember influence?,new gathering system?blueprints? Yes, players got right to bitch those features because all of em were bugged and were made like on knee or while doing a big goo in toilet, just fast enough to be usable in small percentage, but usable.
That's the minus point for the DEVs, adding crippled ideas to the game, but if they wouldn't even add those, we would have to play on other servers.
gm plox.

then they should lock the whole forum and close down the irc channel if they don't want people stating their opinions.

players bitching about EVERY feature? players are bitching about BAD features or BADLY IMPLEMENTED features. if they want players to stop bitching, maybe they should stop making updates behind players' backs then?

I don't know what's there else to do, I won't talk about endgame features, because it's mmo and you have choice to do anything there if you can.

dude, WHAT CHOICES? gimme some choices that are even half as good as PVP and i will embrace them.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 06, 2013, 01:04:10 am
I don't know why people are under the impression that Jovanka made all the changes in past few changelogs? The fact that she posted the topics ain't any proof.

Might be because we have some fairies who spied a lil bit early in jovanka's early development process, and some of those changes are just in her fashion. Also compare the changelogs to several of her posts, she never disguises her opinion. Actually a noble trait, but for us it foretells damnation.

I'm just wondering what happened to people like Scypior and Atom in the dev team.
No clue, sadly. If I knew they went AWOL long ago, I wouldn't have wasted my time in this game 2012 on reading shit from guys like that tomowolf . Now all I have left is tasty forum, a nice compensation.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 01:06:01 am
then they should lock the whole forum and close down the irc channel.
~deleteself password
players bitching about EVERY feature? players are bitching about BAD features or BADLY IMPLEMENTED features. if they want players to stop bitching, maybe they should stop making updates behind players' backs then?
Yes, bitching about every feature, but the fact is they're badly implemented (Quest from Gun Runners, where you cannot loot npcs from their weapons, just lol)(blueprints - another alt)(thieves --> doctors, so new alts).
You still didn't understand that if they didn't start to tell players what they're doing, they won't write it officially ever, or no sonner than ever.
dude, WHAT CHOICES? gimme some choices that are even half as good as PVP and i will embrace them.
I'm not there to put marks on choices, you can do the shitty pve, or making crappy quests in which you get 200 exp and flower. You can also try crafting, but none of this gives you xp, so you take gatling and go grind on centaurs and floaters, but I guess it gonna be changed "soon" and we'll have to grind like old days on crafting cigs or healing powder.
PVP's good but the TC is just broken for me, and many other players that want to try to join it while session had it's start over year ago, and basically we got 2 big ape factions which won't allow you to take banana.
Other kinds of PVP are broken for me - TB pvp is shit(not even talking about encounters closing, but those were "traps" and considered by DEVs and GMs as abuse), if you don't have proper alt, you die, or if you don't even have 150~~ hps and armor, you die due to one burst from tier 1 bg or gatling burst.
One vs one in real time depends on if you're on troll alt with AC and jinxed, that makes your enemy and his weapon destroyed.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 06, 2013, 01:12:10 am
Yes, bitching about every feature, but the fact is they're badly implemented (Quest from Gun Runners, where you cannot loot npcs from their weapons, just lol)(blueprints - another alt)(thieves --> doctors, so new alts).
ok so now you ADMIT they're badly implemented. contradicting yourself here? and you want people not to bitch about badly implemented features.

You still didn't understand that if they didn't start to tell players what they're doing, they won't write it officially ever, or no sonner than ever.
who are you? the devs' spokesperson? a dev told you they aren't gonna tell players anything or you like talking out your ass?

I'm not there to put marks on choices,
you're not here to put marks on choices because there AREN'T any choices

Other kinds of PVP are broken for me - TB pvp is shit, if you don't have proper alt, you die
wait, TB pvp is shit because you die if you don't have a proper alt? then i would say RT pvp is shit too because you die fast without a proper alt. TB pvp is pure strategy.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tomowolf on April 06, 2013, 01:14:40 am
who are you? the devs' spokesperson? a dev told you they aren't gonna tell players anything or you like talking out your ass?
Yes, they give me abusable trees in bases and free broc and xander for posting shit on forums.

I have nothing more to say, I'm just bored with stuff to explain people that thair anger won't do anything about DEVs who doesn't even care about those little "we want!" on forum.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: DeputyDope on April 06, 2013, 01:15:38 am
I have nothing more to say,

you had nothing useful to say in the first place.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 06, 2013, 01:30:22 am
Now we finally talkin !
...
I'm not using the "beta" word, because It seems to make angry all people around, but it's true - this is indie project made by hipster developers which add updates when they want and when it's done by their will, not for players, and not by players will, so basically people just don't have a voice there.
Second thing: They don't like community for it's behaviour, it was stated somewhere that there's no plain concept, or just line of ideas that needs to be implemented, also community is bitching EVERY feature - remember influence?,new gathering system?blueprints? Yes, players got right to bitch those features because all of em were bugged and were made like on knee or while doing a big goo in toilet, just fast enough to be usable in small percentage, but usable.
That's the minus point for the DEVs, adding crippled ideas to the game, but if they wouldn't even add those, we would have to play on other servers.
...
Yes, It isn't pure PVP, because it's also crippled for majority of players, only veterans know how to win, and get their TC reward(which is just sad, not funny).

Then change the "for players , by players" lie. If it's their game and they feel hurted by the communities feedback, they MIGHT do something wrong. If you throw a stone through a window cuz you don't give a shit, expect it to break.
At least statistically seen, if <90% of players say something is shit, then it's MOST likely shit, or you telling me now math is being wrong here. Don't expect people to treat you nicely if they state some criticism and get swiftly put into the "cryer" category with the real assholes, from which point on they give up just tell you "XYZ IS SHIT"

Beta doesn't justify the degradation of a relatively fun and nicely playable game (again judging from a statistical point and the majority's opinion) into some hardcore crap. What do you think about this. Some games stay in Beta forever but are good and still playable. And I don't count grinder autists or masochists with too much free time to be "players".

Veterans have knowledge, hard earned knowledge over weeks and months and sometimes years. Knowledge is the ONLY thing that remains after wipes. Is that what you consider as "not fair"? You know, they earned the knowledge, through persistent playing and fighting, not because someone dropped them free shit in NCR or put a tree with endless fruits into their base. That knowledge is the only thing that persists after wipe. WHY is that not fair ? Or less fair then a tree with endless fruits.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: T-888 on April 06, 2013, 01:46:52 am
Grim, Deputy kid, Jacky, all in one topic spreading their smartness.

Popcorn will not be enough ...
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Brujah on April 06, 2013, 01:55:16 am
62 players online?


Excellent, I love personal space.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Tyler on April 06, 2013, 02:00:37 am
I dont think I've ever seen a bigger bunch whining little bitches in my life. Ever since this server had a thread on NMA there has been post after post of just crap. I stopped playing this after the wipe before last and check on this server to see how things are going. Do you know whats changed? NOTHING. All you see is miles and miles of the same shit thread title and the same shit posts. Rewording the same shit doesnt turn it into something constructive. You should all consider yourselves lucky that 2238 isnt dead because then you would all have to sit and yell at your keyboards instead of sharing all these wonderful gems of wisdom with the world.

I'm going to set a precedent on this forum and offer up something that might actually help this server. I vote to create a section for bullshit posts like these. We can call it Hell and set right it next to the junk section. All of you who come here and play for nothing, contribute nothing, and then have the nerve to say shit about dev's as if they owed you anything can have your own personal NCR to sit and shit talk all day long. It's impossible to read almost any thread on this forum without running into this bullshit. So I guess I do actually have one complaint. Whoever is in charge of monitoring these threads might want to take a more active role in cleaning them up because reading anything useful is next to impossible with all this garbage being tossed around.   
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Blackeyed on April 06, 2013, 02:41:40 am
I m disappointed there haven t been more people speaking up for Jovanka or other Devs.
whatever u boys think u re doing, it s not helping the server too much. demonizing specific people who, good or bad choices, have been working for no money and a whole lot of grief, and then complaining they don t have the initiative to come to u to discuss the server s future? have u ever considered that whining and pointing fingers kinda gets in the way of a real dialogue?

what do u know about Jovanka s competence? as someone said, she s not there alone. most of u have no idea of who Devs and GMs are, or of what goes on backstage. and even if Jovanka was the lamest Dev ever, if u tried to help her (and other Devs) how do u know she wouldn t be up to the job? but have u ever properly tried? (no, this kind of talk doesn t count.)

the whole point is: u are justified to talk like this, AFTER u ve tried speaking reasonably to Jovanka (or Devs in general).

so my proposal, not to u, but to Jovanka and Devs, is maybe to contact at least big, veteran gangs, and have them pick a representative or 2 so that u could all talk in someone s Mumble/TS/whatever. from my experience with our players, they are usually nicer when talking than when posting here. and i think most have very valid points to make. and i think it does need to be done.
also, i don t know if online advertising has been done enough. no need to explain the potential of good advertising. players can help a lot with this (once they feel it s worth it).

and yeah, i d be pretty sad if this server died or lost any more people, but also i m very grateful (key word here, boys) that it even exists.
Title: Re: who thinks im right and agrees?
Post by: Vile on April 06, 2013, 02:47:39 am
Rewording the same shit doesnt turn it into something constructive. You should all consider yourselves lucky that 2238 isnt dead because then you would all have to sit and yell at your keyboards instead of sharing all these wonderful gems of wisdom with the world.
That's the reason why I "play" on this forum, it's greater fun then this so called "game".

If you want something constructive, read the posts and points I have made ages ago before I have been started to be treat like shit out of a sudden that deserves nothing but emotional gibberish bullshit, impoliteness and rude answers like "wasteland is harsh", and that WAS when I used to be quite constructive, reasonable and not showing my cynical hatred towards you spineless GM/DEV cronies. Get some guts

All of you who come here and play for nothing, contribute nothing, and then have the nerve to say shit about dev's as if they owed you anything can have your own personal NCR to sit and shit talk all day long.
They owe me the fucking time I've wasted on their shit expecting, hoping and believing in their work while getting shitty answers from DEV/GM pooholelickers like you and other clowns on trivial questions like "This is not so great, should I quit temporary or will it be fixed soon?" , answers like "soon" or "they have a life too" or "gtfo if you don't like it" as if you walking trashcans were even asked.
Fine, then tell me you won't do shit anymore for months, then I quit for the meantime and use my time on something constructive. Cuz I like this game, but if it's unplayable I rather wait before letting myself think it is garbage.
I actually liked this shitty mess pre wipe.  It's hard to believe today, judging from all the months of failed expectations (due to stubbornness) and disappointments, but I really did.

They could have told people where this goes, thats all. That's our right to know . If you don't think so, don't wonder why people become upset or cry or flame or FUCKING TELL YOU THIS SUCKS cause you gave them ALL rights for it, mostly because of your fucking dev defending where it wasn't even asked for. Instead it was preferred to abandon this and leave people in the dark. And some clowns telling us it's "their game", they can "do what their want". DO it on a private server then, like what lisac might have finally done. Months after, random GM's were appointed DEV's. Ok not so random, but not people who have a direction or actual plan, rather random ideas do not even stick to the rotator's initial vision. And the result is... well look at the playerbase and the insane forum uproar, most people don't even bother writing anymore. Where's T888 for example ? Lost in progress, even that guy found a favorable alternative to his favorite hobby, looking like a no lifer on forum. Did you see BBS/TNB capping some shit in the last days ? That proves a lot.

That's actually stuff I wanted to write for a long time, but FINALLY the killing blow came and I felt like it was time . This game is deteriorating into a ~50  (optimistic evaluation) people server at peak times, and finally even the last veterans gradually find out that dev's give a shit about their most loyal players and rather suit their own needs.  The message has finally touched the mind. I hope you will have fun with you and mayk and kitty and tomowolf being the last ones rotting on the server, jovanka. Nobody to troll, nobody else to ban or show off your "GREAT" authority.
Cya, and thanks for nothing, no respect4shit and happy rotting at this foul corpse.


PS. BTW Its not jovanka fault herself which makes this crappy, it's her stubbornness and biased view.  Not that I care anymore, I said everything and want to see you all suffering and tearful :)  Not sorry for going T888 on you