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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Glumer on January 25, 2013, 11:26:20 pm
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Will be some real update soon, or server will die?
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Define "real update".
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Will be some real update soon, or server will die?
Yeh so one more time ''soon''
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Ah, another "server is dieing" thread.
Server is more alive than it has been in a while. Updates are more frequent and useful. Lags are less. More fun overall for me on the whole.
This server will never completely die due to lack of players, only if the "powers that be" decide enough's enough.
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Server will die.
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3 weeks without update - clearly server is dying ::)
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reason why people get frustrated is fr and crating system
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I still don't get it - after 3 years on this forum, some people didn't understand that those updates won't come faster if they whine, or even if they come, they will be SOON.
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@glumer:i thought you guys are on faustralia, whats the problem? I would like to ask you if you know what is changelog of 2 or 3 previous updates, so you are in need of another one. :).
Doesnt meen you are not welcome back to old 2238 :)
@Muslim: Fast relog is supportive feature for crafters, do you wana nerf crafting or what ? :D
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fr is for "noobs and crafers" :D hehehehe good one...it was main feature for multilogs and fr. but what happen everyone knows. bbs/tnb swarm wars and if u cant afford 6-10 pvp chars you can forget about any pvp.
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I still don't get it - after 3 years on this forum, some people didn't understand that those updates won't come faster if they whine, or even if they come, they will be SOON.
3 years on this forum, and you're still talking about whining. its only thing you see on this forum. someone's whinings. its sad.
@topic
server will die for sure, we just have to wait.
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Muslim Obama has my vote.
Fast relog needs to go, period.
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The server has been in a state of almost death for 8 months, until it is shut down there will always be a few players. There have been more useful updates in the last 3 months than in the last 6 so that is a good thing. However do not confuse updates with life bringing magic, the things that drive players away are still in place in the game, and there has been no indication that they will change anytime soon. Couple that with the more frequent negative remarks from certain Dev's and you can see even they are getting fed up with things.
We don't see it but there is work going on, and lots of it. Just skim through the 3d section and you will see how far they've come with it, and most of it has stuff still being worked on daily. Good Suggestions are being implemented (crafted containers, visible space remaining). If you really want to help, hash out a good suggestion on how the game might improve. Something more than *We need more quests.* I can't promise the dev's will listen, but a well thought out suggestion that more than a handful of people can agree on tends to get their attention.
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i dont know why crafting is nerfed against farming - you can easily farm armors and guns than craft them its unbalanced. Fast relog is stupidity its destroying all pvp.
Server losing players, normal pvp (tc with pvp wasnt for 4 days). Its reason why i asking. Updates with special encounters are nice but cannot help server.
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for example why the best armor (ca mkII) is farmable but isnt craftable?
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The question should be:
why, when somebody want to play only PVP have to do some stupid, long and booorig processes to obtain stuff? Isnt it main reason, including unbalanced amount of people on each side of gangs, why are players leaving? I think so. Some people hate this game, because they spend a lot of time by something boring (crafting, farming, gathering stuff). And you are returning back to crafting, farming, which is main failure of this game. For someone who loves crafting, farming its ok, so lets conserve this feature. But for someone who spent all day by getting stuff and then it loses 6 equipment in one 10 mins battle, because of FR, its just stupid, not funny and frustrating. Therefore people leaving (main group of this game are PVPers)!
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3 weeks without update - clearly server is dying ::)
i would rather call it dead reanimation, slow one.
dont really want to complain again but i ll spit some shit. we all know what is the main probem here.. game is simple BORING. there is nothing to do exept ..hm exept what? honestly i dont really know.
3 years of development and there is still not even scratch of concept for gameplay. its so big shame becouse this game have so great potenatial and people have so many ideas how make this game intresting and playable.. comunity want to help make this game better - without response, totaly negleced
somehow we are still here.. guys, testers who are with this project from begining and we dont even know anything about WIP ! sick.
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i would rather call it dead reanimation, slow one.
dont want to complain but we all know what is the main probem here.. game is simple BORING. there is nothing to do exept ..hm exept what? honestly i dont really know.
3 years of development and there is still not even scratch of concept for gameplay. its so big shame becouse this game have so great potenatial and people have so many ideas how make this game intresting and playable.. comunity want to help make this game better - without response, totaly negleced
somehow we are still here.. guys, testers who are with this project from begining and we dont even know anything about WIP ! sick.
Well you can thank the apes for part of that. They wanted pvp, nothing but pvp, and more pvp. So quests and the development of Explore areas like Aries and Glow got thrown together put out then more or less ignored.
There is a ton that could be done to help the game, and you're right there needs to be more to do, and not more to do because of Imposed limits ie. BPs in the crafting system. Truth is it's hard work for no pay, and few people have the time to do it. I wrote a tons of lines of quest dialog and stuff for NPC's and then never heard back from people when it was time to put it into game. Probably cause the person in charge was flat gone. The trick now is to map out how we can help rather than sit and hope.
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The trick now is to map out how we can help rather than sit and hope.
i know how to do it.. the question is that developers of 2238 want to recive some help from community.
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i agree with Glumer about fast-relog. it's kind of unbalance feature. possibly make it 2mins cooldown time like previous season. what do u think? :-\
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nice will be some help to crafters cause system for crafting is now on very very low level
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nice will be some help to crafters cause system for crafting is now on very very low level
agreed :) but its still possible. maybe just mk2 armors and hq chem component update would be nice. But i understand, that drug accessibility is difficult to manage
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agreed :) but its still possible. maybe just mk2 armors and hq chem component update would be nice. But i understand, that drug accessibility is difficult to manage
dont forget to possibility of crafting hq fibers
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i dont miss hq fib... its quite well set now, cause as somebody said- if u want it u have to fight for it. but could be also nice something like from 100 fibers u can crafr 1 hq...
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2238 is dead or dying . ;) i prefer dead
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Why? Did we kill your family?
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You do nothing thats the problem . Better shut down server or start doing something.
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Well... I like the server, I have good moments when I'm playing.
About FR, I think it's very usefull and this make battles very intense.
But there's not much battles which need FR... Most of the time one team ragequit fast because they are only 8 vs 20 (according to what they say on forum).
About HQ Chemical, I'm afraid if they are implemented we won't have enough for all players on the server.
There's only 2 spots for Chemical, so if this will be the same thing for HQ, soon we will have a lot of players whining because there's not enough HQ Chemicals spots.
I don't say the server is perfect, of course this could be better.
But I think there's too much whining, this give the feeling the server sucks which is not true.
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Waiting in the middle of waiting room on dentist, is much more enjoyable than your server Lexx. You do not work hours and hours after work from your real life.
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i played there for 3 year, population is now made by people which you cannot meet anywhere maybe sometimes in Junktown or NCR. I think you can delete north part of map now.
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i played there for 3 year, population is now made by people which you cannot meet anywhere maybe sometimes in Junktown or NCR. I think you can delete north part of map now.
It doesnt solve anything. Northest cities are mainly designed for PVP. Are you one of these NCR guys?
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You do nothing thats the problem . Better shut down server or start doing something.
You must have been sleeping the past weeks. Beside this, your argument makes no sense.
You do not work hours and hours after work from your real life.
In fact, many of us did work hours and hours after work over a very long time period, to create the game in the first place.
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I hope that someone from dev team, take the look on skycast code, as mentioned in this topic (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,27391.0.html).
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In fact, many of us did work hours and hours after work over a very long time period, to create the game in the first place.
Respect.
I can still have fun with the game, but I suppose that is in part due to the fact that I'll happily use my imagination to find something to do, instead of relying on Dev's to implement something for me to do.
Are there things I'd like to see fixed? Of course. Would I like to see some feedback from Dev's about what they are planning, what is being worked on currently, and what things cannot/will not be fixed/implemented? Of course. Apart from donating to keep the server online, would I like to help? Of course.
The truth is we can't always get what we want, especially when it's other people we're asking to do something for us. The truth is, they've done more for you by keeping the game online, updating, wiping every so often, and keeping us playing for free (if we so choose) than most of us have done for them, or ourselves.
If we don't like how the game is, we can either choose to play something else, or create the game we would like to play. In the case of the latter, I guess it's easier to bitch about what someone else has done rather than put the work in to do it ourselves.
Want something done to your liking? Do it yourself. http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/board,42.0.html
I know my opinion is unpopular in regards to this, but I'm not a popular guy. So, fuck it.
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In fact, many of us did work hours and hours after work over a very long time period, to create the game in the first place.
How to say, you are not doing it well or efficiently, if so then you do not need hours and hours after your work until now. Also I remember a long time periods without devs, please stop talk about how you regularly worked.
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You are a funny guy. :)
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You see, you should work on the game and dont troll.
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You must have been sleeping the past weeks. Beside this, your argument makes no sense.
No i am not sleeping i try play it. I do not know , I should laugh or cry? Years of creating this game and still unplayable (better every year ).
Just look at comments or suggestions, and not just troll as has been said.
PS: do not understand why you do it when you havent time ,... :-\
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Looks like everything is called "trolling" nowadays.
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not bad update, but nothing about crafting or fast relog - so it not much help to lowering population
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You see, you should work on the game and dont troll.
I'm not defending [DEV] but bitch please, are you 12 yo?
Why all of you are such douchefags which can't stand its free, and they'll make updates when they want, not when you want,
DEAL WITH IT
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We dont talk about 2-3 updates, but about the game after 3-4 years of playing and final result, spending free time by boring activities or if the server will continue in dying. Got it?
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We dont talk about 2-3 updates, but about game after 3-4 years of playing and final result or if the server will continue in dying. Got it?
I got it, and? You need to rage about that everytime there is no update for a long time?
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I'm not defending [DEV] but bitch please, are you 12 yo?
Why all of you are such douchefags which can't stand its free, and they'll make updates when they want, not when you want,
DEAL WITH IT
normal is that someone if something developing, its same like his child he want be proud not to let him die under bridge.
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I got it, and? You need to rage about that everytime there is no update for a long time?
No, you dont understand. Nobody knows, how it should looks like the concept of this game even from devs side and FR nobody solve until this time. I am not this one, who is raging here, you started and call others like a child or bitch, then calm down.
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No, you dont understand. Nobody knows, how it should looks like the concept of this game even from devs side and FR nobody solve until this time. I am not this one, who is raging here, you started and call others like a child, then calm down.
Because with this you act like children which didn't get his candy.
That's not my DEV problem so much, this is still beta, and they work when they can, and when they like, now when you need something repaired or players will leave, you're testers, not players.
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ok but if testers find something which is bad but noone hear them than something is wrong
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Because with this you act like children which didn't get his candy.
That's not my DEV problem so much, this is still beta, and they work when they can, and when they like, now when you need something repaired or players will leave, you're testers, not players.
Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp. You havent no idea how effort they have to put in to have some fun in game for lets say 30mins . Also i remember better times before wipe, when FR was canceled and playing was much more easier. Therefore more people are dissatisfied and some of them stop playing including me.
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Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp. You havent no idea how effort they have to put in to have some fun in game for lets say 30mins . Also i remember better times before wipe, when FR was canceled and playing was much more easier. Therefore more people are dissatisfied and some of them stop playing including me.
Dude, I won't tell you about my in-game experience, but, I have it with PVP in the first two sessions, so do not tell me how hard it is to get ready for any fight. The problem lies in that you cannot just wait for the update, instead you just whine and rage over DEVs because they didn't do this or that
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Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp.
My advice is to take anti hurt pills to stop the pain.
Whatever your trying to prove, it is pointless.
Game has been long time here, its quite shit and? Tell me something new.
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Dude, I won't tell you about my in-game experience, but, I have it with PVP in the first two sessions, so do not tell me how hard it is to get ready for any fight. The problem lies in that you cannot just wait for the update, instead you just whine and rage over DEVs because they didn't do this or that
I am not talking about pvp, where you fighting 1vs1 in some random encouter, but about pvp where are you trying go with 13+ people together and you have to fulfill conditions of 3-5 ready characters over FR, where are not able to do it half of people, because it is easily just stupid. Not all, are able to spend each day by hours of gathering stuff for 30 minutes fun, if you got luck and players from different fractions will show up/or meet them. We are calling about some balanced PvP system where you can have fun everytime, when you join to game even if enemies had less, more people. Something similar as it was on FOTactics + automatically migration of players according to weaker side. I mean some balanced system for all, who will decide start with pvp for regular fighting. Really FR does not solve it. From the beggining people also cried because of FR and now? Its the rarity when you meet them.
My advice is to take anti hurt pills to stop the pain.
Whatever your trying to prove, it is pointless.
Game has been long time here, its quite shit and? Tell me something new.
You know what i think about your advice another time, but in this case I cannot anything else than agree.
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I am not talking about pvp, where you fighting 1vs1 in some random encouter, but about pvp where are you trying go with 13+ people together and you have to fulfill conditions of 3-5 ready characters over FR, where are not able to do it half of people, because it is easily just stupid. Not all, are able to spend each day by hours of gathering stuff for 30 minutes fun, if you got luck and players from different fractions will show up/or meet them. We are calling about some balanced PvP system where you can have fun everytime, when you join to game even if enemies had less, more people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ
Ok, I have no idea about pvp, sry.
Just get off me, you' wont win with me here, your arguments are invalid, thats just pure butthurt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ
I wish I could be there ;).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ
Ok, I have no idea about pvp, sry.
Just get off me, you' wont win with me here, your arguments are invalid, thats just pure butthurt.
Of course, you havent. Do you see any off players or next incoming waves? It was in time (2,5 years ago), when people also used FR, but they got ban, therefore used it rarely. PVP wasnt so shame as today, frustrating and time consuming for gathering stuff (much more then before), people played this game and you could meet with them everywhere not only in NCR. You show me something what is very old and dont have an idea about present happening. Also CS doesnt exist some time. (10 months).
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Something is true, nowdays PVP is a shame and slavery.
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Fast Relog is an issue and I know the Dev's are aware of it. We all know the apes are gonna whine and cry about losing something they use, they cry more than pve people. From what I seem to remember FR is something set somewhere on the server that they can't just simply switch off. I seem to recall a post or two about that, so I bet ya the devs are trying to find a way to fix it. You can tell how bad pvp has gotten simply by reading what gangs want these days as players: Requires 7+ pvp alts, says it all. Beginning of the season, gangs used FR and tons of alts to be all big and bad, and then other gangs HAD to start doing the same just to compete.
There are more issues in the game than just FR, but it's a rough road to get it all mapped out, especially when some of the things that need to be changed will make the remaining player base cry and whine.
The game is free, the Dev's do work in their FREE time which most of us adults don't have tons of. I've locked horns with Dev's on numerous occasions but I never lack respect for what they are doin.
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From what I seem to remember FR is something set somewhere on the server that they can't just simply switch off. I seem to recall a post or two about that, so I bet ya the devs are trying to find a way to fix it.
They only need to switch it, they finding only way how to dont do that cause they are scared of work - catching proxies its reason. I dont want to whine anyone, but for me is it pain to see, how server quick diyng. (150 character population, but how many dual logs?)
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damn. when im watching this video, memories makes me cry.. at thoes days game had some imperfections/problems but was way more better then in nowdays.
dynamic and more active pvp, with better drug system [rip]
fast relog cooldown [rip]
namecolorising [rip]
our old crew and other players form this video who are waiting for better times [rip]
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btw. action form this video had place at ~18:00 gmt+1. chance to find 10+ players in nowdays are so rare and possible only after 21:00 gmt+ ;(
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They only need to switch it, they finding only way how to dont do that cause they are scared of work - catching proxies its reason. I dont want to whine anyone, but for me is it pain to see, how server quick diyng. (150 character population, but how many dual logs?)
Well it's more than FR and it always has been. I just don't know if there is any light in our tunnel or not.
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We must write true about how bad this game is and hope someone change it.
(this game play ~50-100 unique players , when pvp time come 30pvp players logging characters thats number ~200 at night)
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Hope is for blind people. Its been years now, change is not going to come out of nowhere.
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We must write true about how bad this game is and hope someone change it.
it wont give anything. there everything was said 10000's times and what devs do? gravedigging.
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yea, you are right this game is dead when 90% players write true and developers do this game for 10% players thats 10 people ::)
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They dont care they just going to do what they want regardless of whats going on in the world around them. They make a shit sandwich and we don't want to eat it but they try to serve it on a platter anyways
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Well, nobody is forcing you to eat it, no?
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Well, nobody is forcing you to eat it, no?
of course nobody is forcing us to do it, thing is - we like sitting in restaurants. since there is no alternatives we are here and we are eating not so teasty food serving by you, till new restaurants are not open or menagment will change cousine.
or get fired someone and hire new employers..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ
Ok, I have no idea about pvp, sry
yes you have no idea about pvp and the fact that youve been to few fights 2years ago doesnt change anything son,also youre the approveseverythingdevsays type of guy and even if they would be like "tomowolf sux dix" youd be like "tastes good".
about the game its simple if you dont like it just dont play thats it
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yea, you are right this game is dead when 90% players write true and developers do this game for 10% players thats 10 people ::)
That's because the pvpers whine the most, and now there is only one gang left with maybe a dozen people. My assumption is poland has really old computers and they can't play anything else.
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About the Fast Relog, i would not add anything that i or others already said, but i prefer implementing a cooldown, ONLY, for dying, or for being in a TC town, or during TC timer, or any solution that would only matters on pvp.
I would be very pissed if we get back those damn unbearable cooldown for everything, only to please a few TC players.
There is no fun to waiting 3 minutes everytime you want to log a char.
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There is no fun to waiting 3 minutes everytime you want to log a char.
I totally agree.
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There is no fun to waiting 3 minutes everytime you want to log a char.
Its looting time :D
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Being able to fast log a carry alt to loot all the stuff you just got from an encounter is sorta silly too. I know there are people who are gonna cry about losing it, but you know the game worked just fine without that ability for several years. Too many alts is well too many, but that's not really the dev's fault. As far as cooldowns are concerned at least back when we had a gathering cooldown you didn't have to fight 13 mining alts for normal materials.