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[Tomowolf]

No, you dont understand. Nobody knows, how it should looks like the concept of this game even from devs side and FR nobody solve until this time. I am not this one, who is raging here, you started and call others like a child, then calm down.

Because with this you act like children which didn't get his candy.
That's not my DEV problem so much, this is still beta, and they work when they can, and when they like, now when you need something repaired or players will leave, you're testers, not players.

[Glumer]

ok but if testers find something which is bad but noone hear them than something is wrong

[-Fojtik-]

Because with this you act like children which didn't get his candy.
That's not my DEV problem so much, this is still beta, and they work when they can, and when they like, now when you need something repaired or players will leave, you're testers, not players.

Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp. You havent no idea how effort they have to put in to have some fun in game for lets say 30mins . Also i remember better times before wipe, when FR was canceled and playing was much more easier. Therefore more people are dissatisfied and some of them stop playing including me.

[Tomowolf]

Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp. You havent no idea how effort they have to put in to have some fun in game for lets say 30mins . Also i remember better times before wipe, when FR was canceled and playing was much more easier. Therefore more people are dissatisfied and some of them stop playing including me.

Dude, I won't tell you about my in-game experience, but, I have it with PVP in the first two sessions, so do not tell me how hard it is to get ready for any fight. The problem lies in that you cannot just wait for the update, instead you just whine and rage over DEVs because they didn't do this or that

[T-888]

Ok, i understand you are not pvp player, maybe forum pvper, but you havent such experience as others with practicaly day by day trying play this hard game for pvp.

My advice is to take anti hurt pills to stop the pain.

Whatever your trying to prove, it is pointless.

Game has been long time here, its quite shit and? Tell me something new.

[-Fojtik-]

Dude, I won't tell you about my in-game experience, but, I have it with PVP in the first two sessions, so do not tell me how hard it is to get ready for any fight. The problem lies in that you cannot just wait for the update, instead you just whine and rage over DEVs because they didn't do this or that

I am not talking about pvp, where you fighting 1vs1 in some random encouter, but about pvp where are you trying go with 13+ people together and you have to fulfill conditions of 3-5 ready characters over FR, where are not able to do it half of people, because it is easily just stupid. Not all, are able to spend each day by hours of gathering stuff for 30 minutes fun, if you got luck and players from different fractions will show up/or meet them. We are calling about some balanced PvP system where you can have fun everytime, when you join to game even if enemies had less, more people. Something similar as it was on FOTactics + automatically migration of players according to weaker side. I mean some balanced system for all, who will decide start with pvp for regular fighting. Really FR does not solve it. From the beggining people also cried because of FR and now? Its the rarity when you meet them.

My advice is to take anti hurt pills to stop the pain.

Whatever your trying to prove, it is pointless.

Game has been long time here, its quite shit and? Tell me something new.

You know what i think about your advice another time, but in this case I cannot anything else than agree.

[Tomowolf]

I am not talking about pvp, where you fighting 1vs1 in some random encouter, but about pvp where are you trying go with 13+ people together and you have to fulfill conditions of 3-5 ready characters over FR, where are not able to do it half of people, because it is easily just stupid. Not all, are able to spend each day by hours of gathering stuff for 30 minutes fun, if you got luck and players from different fractions will show up/or meet them. We are calling about some balanced PvP system where you can have fun everytime, when you join to game even if enemies had less, more people.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ</a>
Ok, I have no idea about pvp, sry.

Just get off me, you' wont win with me here, your arguments are invalid, thats just pure butthurt.

[Kelin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ

I wish I could be there  .

[-Fojtik-]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiSLUbpeyQ</a>
Ok, I have no idea about pvp, sry.

Just get off me, you' wont win with me here, your arguments are invalid, thats just pure butthurt.

Of course, you havent. Do you see any off players or next incoming waves? It was in time  (2,5 years ago), when people also used FR, but they got ban, therefore used it rarely. PVP wasnt so shame as today, frustrating and time consuming for gathering stuff (much more then before), people played this game and you could meet with them everywhere not only in NCR. You show me something what is very old and dont have an idea about present happening. Also CS doesnt exist some time. (10 months).

[McBorn]

Something is true, nowdays PVP is a shame and slavery.

[Trokanis]

Fast Relog is an issue and I know the Dev's are aware of it.  We all know the apes are gonna whine and cry about losing something they use, they cry more than pve people.  From what I seem to remember FR is something set somewhere on the server that they can't just simply switch off.  I seem to recall a post or two about that, so I bet ya the devs are trying to find a way to fix it.  You can tell how bad pvp has gotten simply by reading what gangs want these days as players:  Requires 7+ pvp alts, says it all.  Beginning of the season, gangs used FR and tons of alts to be all big and bad, and then other gangs HAD to start doing the same just to compete.

There are more issues in the game than just FR, but it's a rough road to get it all mapped out, especially when some of the things that need to be changed will make the remaining player base cry and whine.

The game is free, the Dev's do work in their FREE time which most of us adults don't have tons of.  I've locked horns with Dev's on numerous occasions but I never lack respect for what they are doin.

[Glumer]

From what I seem to remember FR is something set somewhere on the server that they can't just simply switch off.  I seem to recall a post or two about that, so I bet ya the devs are trying to find a way to fix it. 

They only need to switch it, they finding only way how to dont do that cause they are scared of work - catching proxies its reason. I dont want to whine anyone, but for me is it pain to see, how server quick diyng. (150 character population, but how many dual logs?)

[maszrum]

damn. when im watching this video, memories makes me cry.. at thoes days game had some imperfections/problems but was way more better then in nowdays.

dynamic and more active pvp, with better drug system [rip]
fast relog cooldown [rip]
namecolorising [rip]
our old crew and other players form this video who are waiting for better times [rip]
;(

btw. action form this video had place at ~18:00 gmt+1. chance to find 10+ players in nowdays are so rare and possible only after 21:00 gmt+  ;(

[Trokanis]

They only need to switch it, they finding only way how to dont do that cause they are scared of work - catching proxies its reason. I dont want to whine anyone, but for me is it pain to see, how server quick diyng. (150 character population, but how many dual logs?)

Well it's more than FR and it always has been.  I just don't know if there is any light in our tunnel or not.

[LittleBoy]

We must write true about how bad this game is and hope someone change it.

(this game play ~50-100 unique players , when pvp time come 30pvp players logging characters thats number ~200 at night)