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Title: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: McLooter on July 04, 2012, 11:16:09 am
- Unity has the same, and better equipment even, but easier to farm.
- Have them spawn with Super Stimpak.
- Small chance for one to spawn with Gatling Laser, Plasma Rifle, Avenger Minigun or Improved Flamer.

Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: falloutdude on July 04, 2012, 12:46:32 pm
agreed
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 12:47:10 pm
Are you kidding me?
I would rather say make it IMPOSSIBLE to farm remnants. They break the game, for fuck's sake. The only reason they are there is because people don't know how to play another way.

Oh lord, I miss the old times.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: falloutdude on July 04, 2012, 12:48:54 pm
They break the game, for fuck's sake.

hrmm they do? explain please.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Wichura on July 04, 2012, 12:52:59 pm
See? Farming is bad, explotable and gonna be nerfed soon. It's not falloutish to scavenge corpses searching for valuable items. Crafting should be the only way to get stuff in post-apo reality.

Oh wait.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 12:54:26 pm
Farming remnants is ridiculously easy and is pretty much the late game content. After you farmed them, it gets easier and easier and more profitable. You won't ever need to do anything else.

It's a ridiculous end for the game's learning curve.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: falloutdude on July 04, 2012, 12:57:53 pm
Farming remnants is ridiculously easy and is pretty much the late game content. After you farmed them, it gets easier and easier and more profitable. You won't ever need to do anything else.

It's a ridiculous end for the game's learning curve.
ok you know this is a online game right?
if you want a full time job get one.
most people play for fun not to farm for days  for just for a couple things.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 12:59:44 pm
Then make your suggestion: make a NPC that gives you anything you want for free.


You just wanna have some fun after all.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: falloutdude on July 04, 2012, 01:03:06 pm
Then make your suggestion: make a NPC that gives you anything you want for free.


You just wanna have some fun after all.
maybe you are new here or something but there allready is. its called hinkley.
i dont go there and fight because its fake or its not fun.
just realize that people want to progress in the game but also not spend hours and hours getting weapons.
also mclooters suggestion is good because he is right. unity is weak as fuck but gives better stuff then remnants which makes no sense. remnants have allmost 200 more hp then unity in some sqaures.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 01:05:10 pm
Nerf Unity's loot.

No, really. Nothing against the casual player. Just don't make the game really unfunningly limited.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 01:15:43 pm
Nerf your brain.

Yes, please. It is really imbalanced.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Roachor on July 04, 2012, 02:13:32 pm
"It's the only endgame content, remove it"
Yes lets remove all content and make grinding longer and complicated. Crafting should be the only source of weapons since making alts just to find bps are super cool and who cares if half the weapon bps aren't in game. Sure you kill people to loot them but then the weapon is free, make corpses charge full price to take their things. ::)
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 02:52:35 pm
We pretty much agree that the game has lost 80% of it's players.

So it is doing something wrong. And IMHO, it is the complete lack of anything else to do late game than farming Remnants, Unity and grieving.

Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Mike Crosser on July 04, 2012, 02:55:48 pm
Maybe we should also remove raiders and VC patrols they give too good loot!
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Ganado on July 04, 2012, 02:57:58 pm

So it is doing something wrong. And IMHO, it is the complete lack of anything else to do late game than farming Remnants, Unity and grieving.
PvE is not the reason most people left the game. And you should play the game more if you think there is nothing else to do but the three things you just said; it makes it sound like the only place you've been to is NCR.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Sephiroth-sama on July 04, 2012, 03:16:07 pm
I know there are more things to do, except they aren't as worthwhile. Btw did you see the last word? GRIEVING?
There isn't really much else than farming and grieving, LOL.

Do you call farming Remnants PvE? Oh, wow. Not my concept of PvE, mainly late-game.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: pagemaster on July 04, 2012, 03:22:34 pm
I think the issue with Unity is not so much that they give good loot but that they loot they produce is incredibly hard to craft. It pretty much removes any incentive for crafting these items because it's just so easy to farm them without even necessarily making an alt.

I suggest both making farming Remnants more useful (better stuff) while simultaneously nerfing farming by making all items from encounters have at most 33% durability (or something like that). I've gotten items at 80% durability, which to me is no different than brand new.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: naossano on July 04, 2012, 11:55:36 pm
I don't see the problem of being rewarded if you manage to kill a group of muties.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: avv on July 05, 2012, 12:48:14 am
I'd rather kill remnants for gatling lasers than abuse enclave with dual log and precision alts.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Brujah on July 05, 2012, 02:41:41 am
I don't see the problem of being rewarded if you manage to kill a group of muties.

I'd rather kill remnants for gatling lasers than abuse enclave with dual log and precision alts.

Nothing else that needs to be said.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on July 05, 2012, 06:35:13 am
FFS!  Nerf unity again?  you guys need to have your fucking brains lobotomized!  There isn't really shit to do in this game to begin with, farming unity is just something to do, yeah, i have 9999999 laser rifles, good for me!  So FUCKING WHAT!  This is a game gomer!  If I have to craft laser rifles that arent good for shit, I might as well not even play.  Rocket launchers?  Neato, they suck big donkey balls, without ap rockets they are worthless.  6 shot fastshot brof fn or ar is better than laser rifle most of the times or comparable damage, think not?  Try it.  To all you retarded nerf ding dongs out there what the fuck is there for you to even do in this game if there isnt farming?  Crafting?  I think the fuck not.  Late game content?  WTF are you talking about?  There are plenty of molerates and scorpions out there just for you to "keep it realz, yo".  I really hate the idea of a game that you'd be in charge of, most lame game ever!
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Brujah on July 05, 2012, 06:40:14 am
FFS!  Nerf unity again?  you guys need to have your fucking brains lobotomized!  There isn't really shit to do in this game to begin with, farming unity is just something to do, yeah, i have 9999999 laser rifles, good for me!  So FUCKING WHAT!  This is a game gomer!  If I have to craft laser rifles that arent good for shit, I might as well not even play.  Rocket launchers?  Neato, they suck big donkey balls, without ap rockets they are worthless.  6 shot fastshot brof fn or ar is better than laser rifle most of the times or comparable damage, think not?  Try it.  To all you retarded nerf ding dongs out there what the fuck is there for you to even do in this game if there isnt farming?  Crafting?  I think the fuck not.  Late game content?  WTF are you talking about?  There are plenty of molerates and scorpions out there just for you to "keep it realz, yo".  I really hate the idea of a game that you'd be in charge of, most lame game ever!

We're talking about mutie remnants bro, Unity is fine as it is.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Roachor on July 05, 2012, 09:00:44 am
I agree with kaboom on this one, if whiners were in charge the game would be a blank screen with a crafting bench.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Mike Crosser on July 05, 2012, 09:21:45 am
blank screen with a crafting bench.
With guards around it
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: solid snake on July 05, 2012, 11:58:44 am
With guards around it

that shoot you for having steal as a tagged skill
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: falloutdude on July 05, 2012, 12:50:05 pm
that shoot you for having steal as a tagged skill
not just steal. all combat skills and even gambleing. only repair science and od.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: Ganado on July 05, 2012, 01:03:08 pm
not just steal. all combat skills and even gambleing. only repair science and od.
Science can be used as griefing. That can't be allowed, either.
Title: Re: Make farming Remnants of Master's Army more useful.
Post by: McLooter on July 05, 2012, 07:53:55 pm
I'd rather kill remnants for gatling lasers than abuse enclave with dual log and precision alts.

- Small chance for one to spawn with Gatling Laser, Plasma Rifle, Avenger Minigun or Improved Flamer.
and so small chance that you wouldn't find it in every single encounter..