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Title: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 02:17:07 pm
RED DOT ARMY ANNOUNCEMENT

These are the laws everyone should respect if he/she wants to peacefully trade, sell slaves or do anything else in Den without getting shot by members of Red Dot Army or our militia.

1) Before entering the town, contact us on radio channel 45654. We'll tell you whether, when and where to enter.
2) Be prepared to pay 200 caps or one slave (no matter which) as a fee for making your time in Den safe and pleasant.
3) For your whole time in Den:
 - wear bluesuit/Leather Jacket/Leather Armor/Robes, nothing more
 - hold some harmless thing (like flower, hypodermic etc.) in hand
 - don't sneak
 - follow our orders
 - don't make anything stupid

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Ceux-ci sont les lois que chacun devrait respecter s'il/elle veut paisiblement négocier, vendre aux esclaves ou faire autre chose dans Den sans être tué par les membres d'Armée Pointée Rouge ou notre milice.

1) Avant l'entrée dans la ville, ne contactez-nous sur la chaîne de radio 45654. Nous vous dirons si, quand et où entrer.
2) Être préparé pour payer 200 caps ou un esclave (peu importe que) comme des honoraires de faire votre temps dans le coffre-fort de Den et agréable.
3) Pour votre temps entier dans Den:
- Ne pas venir en sneak
- Tenir une certaine chose inoffensive (comme la fleur, hypodermique etc.) dans la main
- porter le bluesuit/Leather Jacket/Leather Armor/Robes
- Suivre nos ordres (commandes)
- Ne pas être stupide

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Oto zasady, które każdy powinien respektować jeżeli chce bezpiecznie handlować, sprzedawać niewolników lub robić cokolwiek innego w Den bez zostania zastrzelonym przez członków Red Dot Army lub naszą milicję.

1) Przed wejściem do miasta skontaktuj się z nami na kanale radia 45654. Powiemy Ci czy, kiedy i gdzie masz wejść.
2) Przygotuj się do zapłacenia 200 kapsli lub jednego niewolnika (nie ważne jakiego) jako opłatę za uczynienie Twojego pobytu w Den bezpiecznym i przyjemnym.
3) Przez cały czas pobytu w Den:
- noś bluesuit/Leather Jacket/Leather Armor/szaty, nic więcej
- trzymaj w ręku jakaś niegroźną rzecz (kwiatek, pustą strzykawkę itp.)
- nie skradaj się
- wykonuj nasze rozkazy
- nie rób nic głupiego

PS. I'm not a leader of RDA, I'm just posting it.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: runboy93 on May 21, 2012, 02:19:55 pm
Hah, it's just matter of time when you got beaten down for acting such assholes.
You remember there is other places to sell slaves, why would bother to go Den, it's anyway PK battleground.

Oh please.. stay as you always are. Kill everyone on sight.
I don't mind about it.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 02:22:16 pm
We could just shoot everyone on sight, shut up
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on May 21, 2012, 02:23:27 pm
Paying 200 caps to go in unguarded town?
Boooo! that sucks, I would go in when people sleeping since I have 5 hour difference with most of players :)
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 02:47:34 pm
Hah, it's just matter of time when you got beaten down for acting such assholes.
You remember there is other places to sell slaves, why would bother to go Den, it's anyway PK battleground.

As I said, I think that's at least nice attempt to not make this city only a battleground, as most town-controlling factions do. There are other places to sell slaves, but Den surroundings are the best area to hunt them, so who wants to bother going to NCR after. Which is not safe also.

Paying 200 caps to go in unguarded town?

It's not like for every entrance, once you pay, you can enter multiple times - but always call us on radio before.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Eternauta on May 21, 2012, 03:06:47 pm
So people have to ask for permission via radio channel? This is so trollabe - a troll can just get a radio and give false clearance, making people enter the town without your permision. You shoot them, they lose their 200 caps and come to forum to cry about your "lies".

Also, you want people to pay you to enter, what will you do while controlling the town? I don't mind about paying 200 caps to enter a town if I get something in return (RP projects, safe trade zone, whatever). Anyway game mechanics don't support this kind of stuff...

Oh and what's that about being unarmored? Fuck that, man, telling people to holster their weapons is one thing, but forcing them to be in those ugly blue suits is not good at all. I'd stay away from the Den only to stick to my leather jacket D:
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 03:25:57 pm
If you call and ask if you can come with that beloved jacket, I think we might agree ;d About possible radio trolling - when we say that we'll wait at some entrance grid to protect you, you can always see us in preview. That will ensure you that we are there and you're 100% safe - also for mentioned by you safe trade, RP projects etc.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: JovankaB on May 21, 2012, 03:32:02 pm
I would be more worried about people in bluesuits than those in leather jackets/leather armors/robes :)
IMHO better make low tier clothes obligatory ;P
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 03:35:00 pm
OK, maybe that's right. Hereby we allow to wear all kinds Leather Jackets, Leather Armors and Robes, too. But nothing more.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Eternauta on May 21, 2012, 03:37:43 pm
you can always see us in preview

Unless you make a list of characters, how can I be sure. Trolls can always make characters with your forum name plus one dot at the end or something :P
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 03:54:24 pm
You can never be 100% sure, you know. In general, trolls doesn't wear metal/combat armors - when you'll see a pack of stuffed guys in Den, there are us ;d
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: g4ce on May 21, 2012, 03:57:25 pm
hey lol looks like we going to teach you guys a lesson :D i cant wait to kill you idiots tonight :D we see who has to pay 200 caps
























d i cant wait to kill you idiots tonight :D we see who has to pay 200 caps
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Eternauta on May 21, 2012, 04:03:59 pm
when you'll see a pack of stuffed guys in Den, there are us ;d

Are we playing the same game?
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on May 21, 2012, 04:08:13 pm
g4ce - we're waiting
Eternauta - :D
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Kelin on May 21, 2012, 04:13:02 pm
Every such attempt to make a town anything else than just a battleground is welcome. In my oppinion everything is better than just mindless bluesuit killing on sight. The Den has lots of potential in terms of player-to-player or player-to-environment interaction. There are several NPC traders, there is the slaver guild, there is a still, there are some NPCs which give away support perks etc.

The price you pay shouldn't be considered as a protection payment, in my eyes it's only a tax you pay for being in town, you pay for not being killed by RDA. If any enemy sneaker kills you, well too bad for you. I've been in Den few times since they captured it and have to honestly say that I wasn't killed even once. Of course if you jump in metal armor with laser rifle in your hands, you cannot expect they will treat you as a slaver, that's obvious.

Another excellent thing as a side effect: fresh air to pvp. Every time there are some people (geared in the best case) in basically any town, you can expect someone who will eventually attack them.

I wish you guys good luck in town defending and of course, lots of fun  ;)  because fun is what this game should be about.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: g4ce on May 21, 2012, 04:15:13 pm
we kicked your ass in new reno last night with like 4 players lol
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: manero on May 21, 2012, 04:23:00 pm
I almost shitted my pants. Looks like i got new reason to play this game. To break all these funny rules haha  ;D


BREAKING NEWS:

1. I just entered Den and didn't contact with you.
2. I don't have a caps but i got 3 plasma nades.
3. Sneak skill activated
4. I'm going to put one of my nades into someones ass. Hope it's stupid enough...

...and im not going anywhere  ;D

Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Eternauta on May 21, 2012, 04:26:00 pm
Yeah yeah some of us like this kind of stuff but not only because it makes it possible to PvP.  Red Dots if you really want people to trust in you about your little tax and all that, you should at least post a short list of the characters you use the most. Doesn't have to be a detailed list with every single alt that belongs to every single Red Dot member, only a few names we can recognize in preview.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: davrot on May 21, 2012, 04:48:12 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/SPDfc.jpg)
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Dendito on May 21, 2012, 05:57:22 pm
This is lame
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Marko on May 21, 2012, 06:20:32 pm
I'm so impressed with this thread, i cannot even express it. I salute you for posting this, Red Dots! Good job! i really do love the idea of you announcing rules and the idea of carrying the flower is perfect! You really thought this out and i do love it.

Now...to all other players - i don't care which faction you're in, i say we all hit Den as soon as we can. Red Dots should be prepared to pay us 200 caps each. All those willing to participate, bring Broc flowers to leave on corpses.

Ready?
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: falloutdude on May 21, 2012, 06:27:04 pm
rda i would advise you to shut the fuck up and let slavers do as they wish. remember at any momment tsar or sot could just come in den and fuck up your plan. dont think we wont. it would only take a hour for tsar or even sot to take den back and then we can have a nice match or trolling each other for town. 
ps. you might not have town when you wake tommrow. have fun!
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: DeputyDope on May 21, 2012, 06:38:46 pm
can i put condom in my hand? is it considered dangerous?
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: LeMark on May 21, 2012, 07:22:18 pm
rda i would advise you to shut the fuck up and let slavers do as they wish. remember at any momment tsar or sot could just come in den and fuck up your plan. dont think we wont. it would only take a hour for tsar or even sot to take den back and then we can have a nice match or trolling each other for town. 
ps. you might not have town when you wake tommrow. have fun!

Why you are so upset? Something happens in wasteland be happy!
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Ganado on May 21, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
rda i would advise you to shut the fuck up and let slavers do as they wish. remember at any momment tsar or sot could just come in den and fuck up your plan. dont think we wont. it would only take a hour for tsar or even sot to take den back and then we can have a nice match or trolling each other for town. 
ps. you might not have town when you wake tommrow. have fun!
The alternative for OP's gang is to kill everyone on sight. Your fact that another gang could come in already applies no matter what. So, if you don't want to pay their fee of 200 caps, there is absolutely no difference to you. So really, stop whining/swearing. This is an interesting idea, and seems to have less loopholes than TTTLA's "anti-outlaw" policy. The problem with this current plan, though, is that it requires all of the members to be attentive and have extra responsibility for remembering who has paid caps/is following all rules and who has not, so chances are it will fail.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: boatshift on May 21, 2012, 09:48:16 pm
can i put condom in my hand? is it considered dangerous?
very
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Keksz on May 21, 2012, 09:53:18 pm


These are the laws everyone should respect if he/she wants to peacefully trade, sell slaves or do anything else in Den without getting shot by members of Red Dot Army or our militia.

1) Before entering the town, contact us on radio channel 45654. We'll tell you whether, when and where to enter.
2) Be prepared to pay 200 caps or one slave (no matter which) as a fee for making your time in Den safe and pleasant.
3) For your whole time in Den:
 - wear bluesuit/Leather Jacket/Leather Armor/Robes, nothing more
 - hold some harmless thing (like flower, hypodermic etc.) in hand
 - don't sneak
 - follow our orders
 - don't make anything stupid
PS. I'm not a leader of RDA, I'm just posting it.
U mad bro?Do u really think anyone gonna follow this rules? :P
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: g4ce on May 22, 2012, 01:36:37 am
my post been deleted somehow, but anyhows , i dont think anyone will obey the rules your crazy, rookies by the sound of things , im not even going to bother to mention where you gone wrong :P, anyways i was busy today doing something in real life, and prob most of the week, so no pvp in the den till then
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: boatshift on May 22, 2012, 02:00:48 am
(https://i.imgur.com/SPDfc.jpg)
lol wtf
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Xisingr Will on May 22, 2012, 04:07:22 am
What army?.......
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: boatshift on May 22, 2012, 04:09:13 am
i herd yall blew it against 4 people yall kept coming in they left cause yall suck lolololol
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: maciek83 on May 22, 2012, 04:15:46 am
hahahah !   :D
respect my autoritahhh ! :D
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Xisingr Will on May 22, 2012, 04:17:51 am
hahahah !   :D
respect my autoritahhh ! :D
(http://img.geocaching.com/cache/e0e35ddf-9daf-43f7-b8d7-d0ff325ac09c.jpg)
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: falloutdude on May 22, 2012, 03:47:14 pm
whining/swearing.
sense when could i not swear?
let me guess. "this is a forum and all will repect each other by not swearing"
yes my fuck is more offensive then all the inappropriate use of the word nigger i see on this forum and i see no punishment to theses people.
so please dont tell me to stop swearing before you stop the real  inappropriate things that are said.
also what whineing did i do?
trying to intimidate is whineing now? please learn the difference.
here is some whineing thou.
why no update! devs owe us we pay for server!!!! devs dont need a live just server working!!!


btw to thoses who read this yes i will get a warning and this will highly likely be removed.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: JovankaB on May 22, 2012, 03:54:01 pm
why no update! devs owe us we pay for server!!!! devs dont need a live just server working!!!

You donate to help keep server up not pay for delivering updates.
If you don't like it, don't do it, but devs don't owe you anything.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Tomowolf on May 22, 2012, 04:17:45 pm
You donate to help keep server up not pay for delivering updates.
If you don't like it, don't do it, but devs don't owe you anything.
I guess fdude post was just an irony , but ehm ;-).

Those guys will get anyway get their asses kicked by plasma naders, and troll alts.
Have fun dying.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Senteza on May 22, 2012, 06:49:50 pm
Those "Den Laws" has not been confirmed by RDA leaders. Announcement is obsolete
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: falloutdude on May 22, 2012, 09:15:02 pm
I guess fdude post was just an irony , but ehm ;-).


devs,gms and mods dont understand jokes.  ;D
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: headshot on June 05, 2012, 02:10:16 pm
devs,gms and mods dont understand jokes.  ;D
Nah, just these canadian ones.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Rain on June 05, 2012, 02:43:37 pm
This is not so bad,really but...well,very far from great Den project in the past.
I mean,want to boost your reputation..?Idle there with good army,make it safe town for free or with donation/support.
You would always have to fight trolls,but i m sure many good people would offer their service to help and keep town safe.
Otherwise you are going to get ass kicked in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Ganado on June 05, 2012, 09:15:56 pm
snip
Christ, good job commenting and making a semi-literate essay on two words that had nothing to do with the actual purpose of my post and ignoring the actual arguments. It was whining because what they were doing would not affect you negatively at all (they would just kill you anyway, this way they at least give option to live), yet you still complained.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: John.Metzger on July 01, 2012, 07:45:12 am
hey, this is cool. or was cool, i guess.
sounds the same like any other "playerdriven-rules > massacre" thread. and it's treated the same way by the community.
the rules are ok, i like the part where it comes to holding a flower. radio response could fail or is already bad. a pity.
even this bad guy attitude is cool, raider style (leaving aside past pvp stories)
in view of the negative posts in this thread, it comes to the feeling there were to much pvp "pew pew our faction is best!" - events already to discuss such stuff in here. but even if you get off the flames, the most things like this falling with the fragility of the game mechanics, and people who use them for their trolling or disturbing actions,indeed.
thats why we got the militia. and we all know how much we like them.
wether good or bad, rules for visitors are always better than deathmatch in the north.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Giftless on July 02, 2012, 12:14:31 am
This protection racket thing is a joke unless you can enforce it; and I dare say in FOnline it's much easier to run the blockade than it is to develop one.
Title: Re: Den Laws, by Red Dot Army
Post by: Krupniok on July 02, 2012, 05:18:47 pm
hey, this is cool. or was cool, i guess.

It was cool indeed. To the moment when we faced rollbacks that were wiping our hard-earned militia every time the server was down and massive attacks of trolls, that are able to kill fully equipped soldier guarding the city with one plasma grenade. We had to abandon this idea - it wasn't meant to give us a profit, we were usually giving the stuff from TC locker rather than requesting that fees, but we couldn't afford such a losses, also. Requests of help from GM's (nothing special, really - just some VC-style 'day pass' items that we could give away) were also fully ignored, no response at all. Now even if we would like to protect the city (from who? noone even seems to be interested in taking it away from us, barely anyone visits it for purpose other than companion check), it's pointless.