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Title: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 01:19:13 pm
Just an example:

If Your EN + STR<8, then you are
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9038/slim.png) 

If 7<Your EN + STR<16, then you are
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4606/normalj.png)

If Your EN + STR>15, then you are
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2378/strong.png)

If Your AG + STR<8 and your EN>6, then you are
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7082/fat.png)

I think it's logical and it would prevent absurds like a guy with str 1 with a strong man skin - your appearance should reflect a type of character you create. That's my little suggestion  :P.

Above stat values are, of course, only egzamples.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: runboy93 on March 08, 2010, 01:21:16 pm
jay fat guy,but now to answer...
hmm... looking great,but something missing (superp fat) XD

Edit: and why female is nude? ....  ;)
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: UbiValkin on March 08, 2010, 01:27:02 pm
Edit: and why female is nude? ....  ;)
**** ***'* **** ** **** *****, *** No, I don't want ban.
Because there's no any other models for female, even armors.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 01:29:37 pm
Edit: and why female is nude? ....  ;)

Ask the guys from Troika  ;).
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: vedaras on March 08, 2010, 01:35:25 pm
i would not like that, being fat at big endurance wtf? makes completely no sense. Let people decide what model they want :>
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: UbiValkin on March 08, 2010, 01:40:33 pm
i would not like that, being fat at big endurance wtf? makes completely no sense. Let people decide what model they want :>
"If Your AG + STR<8 and your EN>6, then you are"

Only if you're very very slow and weak ;p
At least 4 ST and 5 AGI - and you're not fat. ;p
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: DrapiChrust on March 08, 2010, 01:44:38 pm
i would not like that, being fat at big endurance wtf? makes completely no sense. Let people decide what model they want :>

Can somebody strong be fat? Yes.
Can somebody strong be slim? Yes.
Can somebody weak be fat Yes.
Can somebody weak be slim? Yes.
Can somebody clumsy be fat? Yes
Can somebody clumsy be slim? Yes
Can somebody agile be slim? Yes
Can somebody agile be fat? YES (I knew a guy that weighted over 100 kilo and he was quite good in capoeira (!)

I don't see much point with this idea. Why take away the choice when it can stay?

The only situation that could take away the choice from player should be picking small frame or bruiser - because those traits bluntly explain your physical look.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 01:48:30 pm
i would not like that, being fat at big endurance wtf? makes completely no sense. Let people decide what model they want :>

Well, if you are big but neither strong nor agile, then you are probably just fat  ::).

It's still much a simplification, but if players decide which model they want to play, then I'm afraid that most of them will choose a strong one, leaving a fat or slim model almost unused.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: DrapiChrust on March 08, 2010, 01:50:59 pm
Hey, that's and rpg game, or so I've heard. Let people pick whatever they want. Believe me, some people will simply take the most unusual model just to look interesting.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2010, 01:53:08 pm
Hey, that's and rpg game, or so I've heard. Let people pick whatever they want. Believe me, some people will simply take the most unusual model just to look interesting.

I am expecting a lot of fat black guys in their underwear with sledgehammers.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 01:55:57 pm
Hey, that's and rpg game, or so I've heard. Let people pick whatever they want.

Shouldn't your appearance reflect the role you are playing  ;)?
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2010, 02:07:04 pm
Shouldn't your appearance reflect the role you are playing  ;)?

If that's the case, most character face textures should be hideous.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: vedaras on March 08, 2010, 02:08:33 pm
Shouldn't your appearance reflect the role you are playing  ;)?

it shouldnt, stats should affect your role playing. most people have 1 charisma, so everyone should look like brahmin shit maybe?  I would not like any stats-appearance realation, it would not be roleplaying at all, because all strongmen would be fat, all snipers would be thin, so were would be the roleplaying of fat sniper for example ?
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: DrapiChrust on March 08, 2010, 02:18:33 pm
I am expecting a lot of fat black guys in their underwear with sledgehammers.

Cool, let them form an Aforamerican big underwear movement ;]

it shouldnt, stats should affect your role playing. most people have 1 charisma, so everyone should look like brahmin shit maybe?  I would not like any stats-appearance realation, it would not be roleplaying at all, because all strongmen would be fat, all snipers would be thin, so were would be the roleplaying of fat sniper for example ?

My thought exactly.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 02:24:56 pm
most people have 1 charisma, so everyone should look like brahmin shit maybe? 

It would be a great incentive NOT to have 1 charisma  ;).

because all strongmen would be fat, all snipers would be thin

Still haven't read the text, heh?, just watched the pictures, you pervert  ;).

Btw, it's actually how it usually is.

Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Badger on March 08, 2010, 02:25:34 pm
There is something quite amusing about the thought of a fat sniper. Don't ask me why. It seems like it'd be a cool character, not just in FOnline.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: runboy93 on March 08, 2010, 02:45:26 pm
i know same thing...

fat sniper cannot hide :P
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: vedaras on March 08, 2010, 02:47:08 pm
no actually "how it is" and how it has always been in fallout world that  your stats dont have anything to do with appearance, and we do not need to change that.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 08, 2010, 02:49:56 pm
no actually "how it is" and how it has always been in fallout world that  your stats dont have anything to do with appearance

That's because of technical reasons, it's not an argument any more.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: vedaras on March 08, 2010, 03:06:36 pm
That's because of technical reasons, it's not an argument any more.

i am talking not about fonline, i am talking about all fallouts.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Roachor on March 08, 2010, 06:51:50 pm
Personally I thought it was retarded that in Fallout 3 everyone has the same body type regardless of stats, 10 str chars should be ripped, end should be husky and agi should be thin. 10 luck should have a 12 inch penis.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: gordulan on March 08, 2010, 06:56:54 pm
fuck yeah
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Sius on March 08, 2010, 09:38:05 pm
Can somebody strong be fat? Yes.
Can somebody strong be slim? Yes.
Can somebody weak be fat Yes.
Can somebody weak be slim? Yes.
Can somebody clumsy be fat? Yes
Can somebody clumsy be slim? Yes
Can somebody agile be slim? Yes
Can somebody agile be fat? YES (I knew a guy that weighted over 100 kilo and he was quite good in capoeira (!)

I don't see much point with this idea. Why take away the choice when it can stay?

The only situation that could take away the choice from player should be picking small frame or bruiser - because those traits bluntly explain your physical look.

Everything essential is in quote. Statistic could be linked with appearance but its restrictive. Yes muscular people are in most cases strong people, but not necessarily. Can slim/fat guy be strong? Hell yeah. So limit character appearance to make it reflect SPECIAL will make all PvP chars look alike. As on the street you can't tell who is strong/agile just by looking at him, you can only guess. Same rules should apply here. Also this would be like "SPECIAL awareness" and others could react just by "inspecting" you => killing you just because they can figure out you are not powerbuilder and you can't be much of a challenge.
This will only kill the soul of ingame chars.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Szef on March 08, 2010, 10:06:45 pm
God.. just add "weight" option or "muscle/fat percentage".. dont chain avatar's look with SPECIAL ==
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Elmehdi on March 09, 2010, 01:31:02 am
So limit character appearance to make it reflect SPECIAL will make all PvP chars look alike.

Most of snipers would be slim or normal (depends if with weapon handling or not), most of biggunners would be strong - isn't it egzacly how it should be?

As on the street you can't tell who is strong/agile just by looking at him, you can only guess.

Can't you  ;)? A slim guy can be sometimes stronger than he looks, but he will never be as strong as a bigger guy can be. There is a reason that there are weight categories in weight lifting for egzample. Your look is very much dependant on your physical condition and in a fallout universe your physical condition is determined by stats.

killing you just because they can figure out you are not powerbuilder and you can't be much of a challenge.

Is it irrelevant somehow  ;)?


Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Surf on March 09, 2010, 02:14:45 am
Haha, now i know how Linella looks like!

Charisma isn't about how one is looking. It is the whole "experience" when encountering said person. Appearance, the way you walk, general behaviour etc. is "Charisma". Not just "CH1=Lol u are ugly!!!1111".
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Roachor on March 09, 2010, 03:00:44 am
Charisma isn't about how one is looking. It is the whole "experience" when encountering said person. Appearance, the way you walk, general behaviour etc. is "Charisma". Not just "CH1=Lol u are ugly!!!1111".

NPC's react to low cha with comments on how ugly you are
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Surf on March 09, 2010, 03:02:06 am
NPC's react to low cha with comments on how ugly you are

In fonline yes. Just another way of some thoughts about this have been failed or how the original was dumbed down.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: UbiValkin on March 09, 2010, 11:25:47 am
Charisma isn't about how one is looking. It is the whole "experience" when encountering said person. Appearance, the way you walk, general behaviour etc. is "Charisma". Not just "CH1=Lol u are ugly!!!1111".
Yes, I once wanted to say about the same (when I saw somewhere post like "Let's town partols will shoot at all 1 CH characters!!!"). Charisma = how that person feel himself in society, low charisma means he is shy or don't want to speak with people, may be he have no sence of humour. High charisma means he know how to control people with his voice, he is very chatable and active. Also people will trust tasks to persons with more charisma, because low charsima people look like they can't handle anything. So person with 1 CH isn't ugly mutant. But... look Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, Online description:
Quote
"A combination of appearance and charm. A high Charisma is important for characters that want to influence people with words."
So... it's appearance...
In Arcanum there're two stats: Charisma and Beauty.
In Fallout only one. And it works like Beauty only.
And of couse:
NPC's react to low cha with comments on how ugly you are
Also sometimes they call you an animal who escaped zoo or you scaring his customers.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: gordulan on March 09, 2010, 11:30:22 am
well, you would look kinda feral if you have 1Cha...
and i'm also speaking about the posture, the way you act and all that.
Title: Re: Character model depending on stats
Post by: Roachor on March 09, 2010, 03:47:32 pm
In fonline yes. Just another way of some thoughts about this have been failed or how the original was dumbed down.

It bothers me that the midgets call me a freak.