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Dear Dev,
I want to say thank you for all your works you have produce to today but this session really sucks and i think it's the majority point of view of players.
What is sucks :
-TC , the 500 reputation points and no timer:
the fact that you can't do TC if you have not 500 points; No timer really sucks cause before there was a big fight with ALL gang (cause all serveur know you take the tow) not jus two gang.
Militia useless, cause if you put, the enemy wich have 499 of reputation just need to spawn to get alll your militia. In more all militia disapear after down. (before she was bugguy but know she is wipe)
-The powerfull useless build:
Sneak and cac heavy handed are powerfull than an pvp char and they engage a poor stuff or no stuff
-The AC mod just enable when you run:
don't understand this, in more you want that we stay in town but at the first attack we are dead. That already before the fight was realy fast, today it's just no fun to fight.
-The serveur :
A big lag like every hours big lag, one down server per day.
-The stuff :
The repair is useless, cause before it was tiring to repair all item but today it's tiring and useless caus you expenditure over stuff to get a item wich is not at 100%. Before you can risk your life tou BA beyond repair now its bullshit.
The craft is ok, but i don't understand why it's so hard to get a good stuff like avenger and CA, if you are not in a BIG team or you have lot of proxy you can't get this stuff.
So i want you to ask if you got a plane to change?
If not mayby you can consider to make a vote like do want to back to previous session?
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totally agree with you, this season is really turning into a huge shit pile.
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All that stuff could use is some small tweaks to make a big difference without totally abandoning the new ideas.
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This has all been said so many times. Repeated over and over again.
Btw, getting avenger, ca (not the bp) and gatling laser is actually extremely easy. Just need the builds needed to farm them.
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but this post have not a goal of whining, but to know the plane of dev! if there are change "soon" we can expect to when? Mayby we can back to previous session ? I dunno....
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Nobody has time to work on 2238 and summer is coming , if there are no changes until june , i can surely say forget about this server for like another 3-4 months, in the best case scenario. There will be wipe on servers like TLA much faster than some hot fixes here.
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The combat armor is a pretty sore point with me; I think it should spawn at merchants in major cities at the price point of 8000 caps or so. No one should have to make a special build just to get a mid-range piece of equipment.
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Did you say "crafting is okay"? Uh no, crafting is not okay! Crafting has been turned into a laborious grind-fest with no change to the wrist-stress Fix-Boy problem and increased ingredients make it too expensive in real life from a time standpoint. The junk requirements could simply be cut in half on most recipes and this would help a lot, or if not that, then make junk appear in larger quantities than ~6 at a time. Sometimes finding 30 junk would even help a lot.
Blueprints? Excellent idea and fun to find them but Treasure Hunter is broken and the other items we find could easily be expanded to include an occasional lighter, a flower, a cookie, or pair of rubber boots or spectacles or gold watch or even pocket lint. Really, if we could find any one of 100-200 items in various quantities while hunting BP, it would decrease the monatiny of it all.
Advanced Workbenches? Okay, interesting idea but...if you do both BP and a-benches, you just added a double bottleneck to crafting after increasing recipes. That's like beating a guy in a fist fight, kicking him when he's down and running him over with your truck. One of these would be good enough to limit crafting, but all three of them compound this problem. This level of overkill has driven some crafters away from the game (including our 70+ year old player). ARGH!
Clearly though, a lot of thoughtful and creative work went into this new season and overall i like it. The Companions...wow awesome feature for sure. The new quests are much appreciated. FR is a blessing to some of us, and the ability to buy a base solo is excellent. The Outdoorsman Camps, the campfires, etc etc etc, yes yes yes i say - lots of work so i salute the devs for that.
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It is not fun to find blueprints. That feature is the most grindy thing ever to be implemented in 2238.
To rephrase that, I mean finding the blueprints in random encounters is the most grindy thing. The ones that can be obtained with quests are less boring. Though, I hate the new Adv. Workbench system in general... the quest for the Boneyard Adv Workbench is bull since if you die once, you have to remake char, and the other workbenches can be easily camped - especially since people can only go down an elevator one at a time.
I love the new crafting cooldown-limit being increase though.
hmm... whatever happened to the "Domination" mode that sounded like fun?
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Crafting table looks so random and made in a rush. HQ chemicals? HQ fibers? Wut?
Finding blueprints - so far the only way is to make a lockpicker alt and go search for lockers over and over. Few BPs can be obtained by quests, few can't be obtained at all. Improved Flamer anyone? Extended Capacitor for Laser Rifle? CA MkII? Something is missing here.
No cooldown crafting - weee, no profession limit - double weee. So it's not like every single feature is broken and dull.
Dear Dev,
Except Lexx none was online since ages.
I want to say thank you for all your works you have produce to today but this session really sucks and i think it's the majority point of view of players.
Get ready for a surprise - nobody gives a damn, majority or not.
-TC , the 500 reputation points and no timer:
the fact that you can't do TC if you have not 500 points; No timer really sucks cause before there was a big fight with ALL gang (cause all serveur know you take the tow) not jus two gang.
Militia useless, cause if you put, the enemy wich have 499 of reputation just need to spawn to get alll your militia. In more all militia disapear after down. (before she was bugguy but know she is wipe)
Since I can only remember, TC was always broken, pointless, lame, fucked up, to rework, to adjust and so on, and militia overpowered, nerfed, useless, useful. At least from what I see here, in threads like this. I may be wrong, because I've never participated any TC related stuff. Neither devs did.
-The powerfull useless build:
Sneak and cac heavy handed are powerfull than an pvp char and they engage a poor stuff or no stuff
Who's idea was to make SD sneakers so powerful anyway? Perfect trolling tool if you ask me.
-The AC mod just enable when you run:
don't understand this, in more you want that we stay in town but at the first attack we are dead. That already before the fight was realy fast, today it's just no fun to fight.
I guess the idea was to make moving targets harder to hit.
-The serveur :
A big lag like every hours big lag, one down server per day.
Hell yeah, dunno if it's powered with donkeys, methane from pig shit or something even more reliable. Reminds me old times with down every hour with half an hour rollback.
-The stuff :
The repair is useless, cause before it was tiring to repair all item but today it's tiring and useless caus you expenditure over stuff to get a item wich is not at 100%. Before you can risk your life tou BA beyond repair now its bullshit.
Where and how did you get BA? Tell me please.
Current repairing is way better than the old one, however deterioration rate of guns and armors is insanely high.
The craft is ok, but i don't understand why it's so hard to get a good stuff like avenger and CA, if you are not in a BIG team or you have lot of proxy you can't get this stuff.
I'm not in a BIG team, I don't use proxy, yet I can get some CAs to wear on my apes. Lrn2play, sir. Or find some more helpful mates.
So i want you to ask if you got a plane to change?
If not mayby you can consider to make a vote like do want to back to previous session?
Previous session wasn't perfect either.
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As for me, the worst things in this session are repair system and armor deterioration system.
If i finally managed to craft fuckin metal armor mkII I can only use it once.
Blueprint hunting could be fun but it's fuckin' boring.
Although there are some thing i like in this session:
-More different builds possibilities
-Caps system is good, you have to find caps where they are. It's the first session I started to trade with other players.
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TC, Silent Death, Heavy Hand, BG crits, not limited fast relog, useless armors, bugged fov, bugged caravans, blueprints = SHIT
I almost forgot about super lags and super shitty new server.
;D
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I really like this session's crafting system, as opposed to the last one. Universal mat cool-downs and all professions are a huge step in the right direction. Lets just hope we get our HQ Chems and our missing BPs soon. I really don't mind HQ Fibers coming from broken CAs only, but it would be nice if there was a place to gather them. My only real complaint is the arthritic adv. workbench creation. Why don't we have x10s?
I like the footlocker system, but I think that it is indeed to 'grindy'.
TC is a broken system, always has been from what I've read. Totally boring anyway, even if it wasn't.
I also really like the new barter as well, it adds a certain immersion value that previous systems made to easy to garner wealth. It also encourages Player to Player trades more than ever.
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Thats really interesting question if there will be update or at least some hot-fix for minor things(FOV, TC, lags)
My opinion: No
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I really like this session's crafting system, as opposed to the last one.
what do you like about it? the fact that you have to do boring quests to gain access to a semi-safe facility where you can craft? the fact that most items from previous session aren't here now? the fact that it's almost impossible to find resources at times, especially during peak hours? the fact that you will probably get instantly raped by SD sneakers after you crafted your new LSW? the fact that you have to spend shitload of time finding blueprints? the fact that doctor profession and other professions are shit due to lack of materials?
what the fuck happened to most encounters anyway? what was the point in removing 50% of encounters? making game "harder"? guys, i already said it - harder = more boring and more tedious. you don't get it? fine.
i find it funny that even RAIDERS encounters were turned into crap because you find only one raider with FNFAL all the times. hahaha, priceless!
bring back caravan encounters, NCRA vs mutants encounters, BOS vs mutants encounters, try making those raiders (mad dogs, 80's, etc.) carry different guns, make PvE more varied, not boring. also there's poor NPC balance (ammount of HP compared to what equipment they have) and horrible spear girls AI that blocks your encounter in TB, and also strange AI behaviour (running away from you, then coming back etc.).
fov is shit, lag spikes are shit, but it's not like anyone's listenin' hahah.
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what do you like about it? the fact that you have to do boring quests to gain access to a semi-safe facility where you can craft? the fact that most items from previous session aren't here now? the fact that it's almost impossible to find resources at times, especially during peak hours? the fact that you will probably get instantly raped by SD sneakers after you crafted your new LSW? the fact that you have to spend shitload of time finding blueprints? the fact that doctor profession and other professions are shit due to lack of materials?
Your doing it wrong...
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Your doing it wrong...
please enlighten me on how to do it right.
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And if anyone was listening, they'd likely ignore all of our points and start talking about respect and how this isn't our game, it's THEIR HOBBY and they can make it shit if they want.
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@Wichura you can't compare your situation of alone player than big team, the stuff is realy loose fast and so tiring to get it. Don't come to say hey you have wrong there are no BA at this session...
@ all stop whining, i think almost people can say they don't like this session, evenif the previous session was not perfect she was (for me, it's why i prupose a poll) better than this. Just need answer of any solution/evolution when.
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And I'm telling you that you don't get to tell me what to do. You are playing our game, we are not making your game - see if you can figure out the difference.
I have already dealt with this. There is no place for reason if it's not heard. So save your breath , nothing good comes out of it. There is nothing you can do , they have their own vision about how 2238 has to be , nevertheless they play their own game or not. Someone said something in the suggestion topic about bringing back the old TC system that it is a step backward , you know what i think ? Each next season is a step back overall , existing working features are just replaced by some far-fetched experiments and no wonder why half of the community is demotivating. Right ?
I won't make a difference , as well none of you all here providing this obsolete information how bad things are. So ... whatever. Keep playing 2238 and when you have some concerns to be raised , read that quote again. I read that once in a while to remind myself.
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Every 2 weeks have a Wipe Madness 36 hours. Then rollback to before.
Would help with boredom.
Also, bring back weather and have Faction BP shops. (With a faction point system.)
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and I DEMAND weather and have Faction BP shops. (With a faction point system.)
We can't demand anything , we can suggest , if we plainly ask , it can be considered as just demanding stuff. Then again suggestion has it's part of proposing something and proposal usually is driven by some kind of need. Now you ask something of someone when you have the appropriate reason to do so even when it's driven by personal needs , as well suggest or demand anything you desire , whenever you see fit and consider it allowed and when it is in acceptable terms of social behaviour. Right ? Like right now !
I don't even ... but ... i need to process information.
I recall.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,19825.msg165779.html#msg165779
If you still don't get it, i cannot help you.
I understand and i still " demand. " There has to be a purpose for it rather than just pure stupidity , otherwise statements like that is to call all 2238 community plain retarded , so this is a question for developers they have to answer themselves , why do someone demands anything here at all ?
I think i just thought too far.
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:sigh:
I make no demands.
Suggestion is implicit.
Just daydreaming about things to make lulz and make fun flow.
To get out of current doldrums.
I have all the BPs I want.
etc.
Wipe madness would maybe make griefing with mines possible again.
Also: Straw Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
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Also: Straw Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
Ha ha. Sure. That's good that we don't make demands. :)
I don't want wipe madness that would ultimately lead to a wipe. Imagine farming all those blueprints again ? Ugh ( remembers those countless hours wasted on leveling characters and opening boxes almost each time with crushed hope for the necessary blueprint. ) No thanks. I'll due without.
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Also, I expect you to do everything I say even though I will contribute nothing beneficial to the actual development of this mod.
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i like bp idea and small amount of money on NPC traders and NPCs in general
both of these make trading between players necessary
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Personally I find current system better then the previous in overall. Repair system is better no more need to pump the skill so high anyone can repair.
Combat armor mkii and Brotherhood armor is gone for now I like this too. Never were a fan of those armor they too military looking.
We can show the slaver tattoo or hide it with a helmet another thing I love now I can if someone is a slaver or not, except if the tattoo is hidden.
New follower system which is awesome. Had some problems but its more or less perfect. The only thing that should change with it to make mercs and companions turn against the player if he keeps attacking them. Speaking of attacking now there is a loyalty which is a plus again. Slaves in time rebel or run away. Mercs will abandon their post. And companions will stop to care about the player.
Banks seems to work now normally. They may go down once but so far it works cool.
Hp change and raised max level is a good thing too. Especially due to the fact that both skilled and non skilled players end their characters with a perk.
Speaking of perks the idea of support perk is nice the only thing that I find strange is that I can get the ranger perk as a slaver too. Though Tamira was part of the rangers so its not as a big deal still I think she should hate slavers and not teach them.
A few new quest even if some is not working fully they still nice.
The no more profession limit gives a liberty to have a know all guy. Blueprints are hard to find yeah its true but it gives a good reason for trade. (for some its a reason to scam)
New fast shot makes some crazy actions possible. This guarantee that TB pvp stays the best:) Removal of second bonus move gives a little for RT fans so they can have a chance in TB.
New unarmed and melee system. The idea of heavy handed was nice and the hth perks are cool too. Still critical hits are better then heavy handed.
1en no hp gain could be seen anything but in all case the player starts with a hp that he would have got at lvl 21 before wipe.
Fast relog finally no need to stop its easy to play different characters without time limits. Don't really care about the pvp aspect of fast relog but in case I get killed by an sneaker troll I can come back and kill him or try to. Another good thing that with current level cap its possible to have some unarmed skill on every character...
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Make a petition against this game, put some nice message in your signature, or try to make your own server. Or, like many of us, just forget about this big crap which is a shame for Fallout universe and move on to play other games.
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I say till the end of the year this server is dead , the only person then whos playin alone is T-888 :D