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Title: PAs in game?
Post by: Horatio on March 28, 2012, 10:38:00 pm
As far i read on the forum, there are a lot of wishes to be able to use Power Armor.

I suppose, this thread won't be different in this matter except for a minor detail.

The suggestion of mine is the ability to "skin" Brotherhood Paladins to get Salvaged Power Armors, which are broken and even while fixed wit advanced materials, won't be able to make their wearer run.

This way, the wearer will have the advantages of a Power Armor at the cost of having a major disadvantage being only able to walk. In PvP, this will means, a PA minigunner will be a slow fortress, a easy target for snipers, a bullet target, but will also give more significance for Field Medics, which will easily keep track with him and support him in battle. A loner in a salvaged PA will be condemned in Wasteland.

Of course, bad reputation with Brotherhood would be guaranteed and it will be surely not easy to farm, so i'm sure as hell that there won't be crowds of PA lolodins running around.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Sarakin on March 29, 2012, 12:33:28 am
Already suggested zillion of times, just without the walking thing. If you introduce such malus, no one will wear PA except M60 users. PA is not some godlike armor, even while wearing, you are prone to bypass crit or any kind of negative status effect easily.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: John Porno on March 29, 2012, 12:55:44 am
actually it could work fine together with m60. I honestly dont see why not. With separating them from the actual, "running" PA's the latter are still available for gm abooze
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: T-888 on March 29, 2012, 01:10:20 am
PA can work with any build , because it's cool.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Roachor on March 29, 2012, 02:38:08 am
PA can work with any build , because it's cool.

nuh uh, sneak build foo
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Crab_people on March 29, 2012, 03:29:33 am
hahaha you want pa when we can have ca mk2 :D hehehe come on
but i like suggesiotn putting pa to game. pa are good but not op.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: chocolate_chip_cookies on March 29, 2012, 05:15:01 am
I think it's a great idea
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Horatio on March 29, 2012, 03:37:48 pm
Sarakin and John Porno have the point.

The SPA is supposed to be worn by BG tanks in PvP and soak up damage by being a attractive, troublemaking target, a shining, expensive, but retainable flagship.

And my intention is to make emphasis on teamwork by maintaining that heavily armored artillery with FA and ammo, since SPA gunner cannot run, but is worth the trouble by his firepower sustained by his high combat timelife span.
Superstimpaks? Ammo? Will be reduced by the sheer weight of the armor.



Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: falloutdude on March 29, 2012, 04:44:13 pm

Superstimpaks? Ammo? Will be reduced by the sheer weight of the armor.
wrong you forgot pa gives str so you will get even more room for ss and ammos.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Horatio on March 29, 2012, 05:04:10 pm
Quote
falloutdude

A PA with intact servos, perhaps.
We're speaking here about a Unpower(ed) Armor and it's just a really heavy piece of shiny, protective metal.

A completely different armor.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Killer Rabbit on March 30, 2012, 03:23:07 am
 This will Work only for tb. No one will use it if u cant run, you will be target shooting for snipers.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Perteks on March 30, 2012, 10:13:53 am
I saw some m60 on TC and reno then drink some nice cup of stfu :) Because it will be used for sure (if not just shitty tent decoration)
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Killer Rabbit on March 30, 2012, 10:54:20 am
I saw m60 on tc. I let him to come to 42hexes and i shooted him for fun:)
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Jotisz on March 30, 2012, 12:05:38 pm
I simply quote myself
The vault dweller joined the brothood of steel and by helping them he gained a power armor then he saved the world. The choosen one ventured to the old military base and found a power armor which he later changed to an advanced power armor and saved the world too.
Why the hell a noname wastlander should be equal of those 2?
We are playing a regular wastlander not the vault dweller or choosen one.
Power armor should be only available if we would be able to start as part of Enclave or BoS and gain from lots of lots of work. We can join them but it doesn't mean we were part of those groups so they should never give an armor like that.

Players should not get Pa or Apa.
Though its not a normal PA since it would make the player unable to run and all but I still think there should be no way to get one as an outsider. If there would be a way to start out from npc factions then I think it would be natural that BoS and Enclave would supply their long time serving members with an armor. But since there is way to join them only and not to start as member. So I think that still no player should get any armor similar to those.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: IndiGRay on March 30, 2012, 12:45:00 pm
Given that the work of the players are not used as models, and half of Fallout 2, it makes the game monotonous and boring.
I'm not saying that you need to enter the PA as it is. You can reduce its resistance.
Ranger armor has been available before, now there is - I'm not talking about her craft, I'm talking about the possibility to get it entered in the fraction of NKR and doing the quest. The impression that the game of intentional trim.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Lordus on March 30, 2012, 01:46:38 pm
Again, player wearer of a power armor or apa is first dead, bullet magnet. (pvp experience). But 2238 needs more armors, more items.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: John Porno on March 30, 2012, 02:13:48 pm
yeah , even if the UPA (unpowered pa) has no real use in pvp since avenger+ca would probably be ebtter than m60+upa, it would still bring some fun to the game.

Thinking about it though, it could screw up TB battles. Then again I don't care for tb battles as im neither russian, nur very charismatic
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: jacky. on March 30, 2012, 02:15:04 pm
we have 4 more armors to implement!!!!
ca mk2/ncr ca/ba/ea  <<<<< where are they???
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: falloutdude on March 30, 2012, 03:16:57 pm
we have 4 more armors to implement!!!!
ca mk2/ncr ca/ba/ea  <<<<< where are they???
ca mk2 is in game. not many of them left mind you. they where farmable from ncr army but sense they toke ncr army away, there is very few left.

Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: Horatio on March 30, 2012, 06:53:15 pm
Again, player wearer of a power armor or apa is first dead, bullet magnet. (pvp experience). But 2238 needs more armors, more items.

It is supposed to be bullet magnet. While everyfucking one tries to takedown the Iron Man, while he absorbs the bullets, (he must be able to handle up to 4 minigun bursts and be healed by field medics) his mates are out of fire and they can concentrate on those who aren't firing at them.
The UPA won't get instadeath'd in any case and will buy time for his mates in onslaught. But it won't be invincible.

yeah , even if the UPA (unpowered pa) has no real use in pvp since avenger+ca would probably be ebtter than m60+upa, it would still bring some fun to the game.

Thinking about it though, it could screw up TB battles. Then again I don't care for tb battles as im neither russian, nur very charismatic


And what do the stats say about CAs and Avengers, if i may ask? TB would be a delicate matter, though.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: jacky. on March 31, 2012, 04:11:34 am
Upa? No way. Pa is good but not op like hpa and apa. U forgot about snipers and bg crits. Have u ever been on tc and saw field medic? everyone Have binded ss and they Have about 100doc. Snipers could kill Them with out problems so dont make pa some strange crap and i want pa In game from specjal enco or v hard craftable Bp 
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: T-888 on March 31, 2012, 04:29:28 am
No armor is reliable in this game ( not even apa ) in terms of protection , as well it's irrelevant is it a bullet magnet or not. It just offers better protection overall , i guess against certain weapon types it's very effective , for example explode protection and the most advanced versions of PA of course are only vulnerable to bypasses , yet i wouldn't even call that reliable. Fuck , any armor is only situational in this game , no matter what your wearing you can get insta splattered by some bypass for 200 in the eyes with all possible anti crit perks.

Power armor is not like , let's say Gauss pistol in terms of efficiency.
Title: Re: PAs in game?
Post by: likeyoucare on March 31, 2012, 06:48:23 pm
Already suggested zillion of times, just without the walking thing. If you introduce such malus, no one will wear PA except M60 users. PA is not some godlike armor, even while wearing, you are prone to bypass crit or any kind of negative status effect easily.

I would wear PA beacause of super badass look no matter what the price.