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Title: let us earrn caps
Post by: maciek83 on March 27, 2012, 08:38:06 pm
just make npcs like riders etc. have 50 - 100 caps on them so we all can earn money and actually use them as a currency
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Hects Hakal on March 27, 2012, 11:13:46 pm
There are three reasons why it will not be done 1-its logical 2-it would make the game friendlier to newibes 3-it would give reason for PVE... Its sad :( anyway i like it
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: maciek83 on March 28, 2012, 07:46:23 pm
hey people dont you think its quite something?

i made a poll ,please vote
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Slaver Snipe on March 29, 2012, 10:38:07 am
I dislike the game as I play because it is harsher than most, doing this would make the game too easy and lead to massive price inflation in player-player trades.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Vandal on March 29, 2012, 10:41:33 am
This whole suggestions is just  ::)
I don't want to see nuka cola selling for 5000 caps just because everyone is having 400 billions in their tents. Wrong.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Boon Lived on March 29, 2012, 11:46:03 am
Want caps? Shovel poop or make some spears. Too lazy to do that? No caps for you.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: pti4ka on March 29, 2012, 11:53:25 am
Bad Idea. It can kill all econimic and pvp on server.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: DocAN. on March 29, 2012, 11:56:06 am
You can easly get 10k-20k from vendors.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Kelin on March 29, 2012, 12:54:04 pm
Bad Idea. It can kill all econimic and pvp on server.
Strange that in the previous season everyone had a shitload of caps, yet it didn't kill pvp on the server (though economy was destroyed). Strange that now you (SoT) have tens of millions of caps, but guess what people still do pvp despite the fact that they don't have much money (for example my whole property is 1500 caps and I play pvp every day, however I can't afford cars, bases, mercs and stuff like that).
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: avv on March 29, 2012, 02:14:47 pm
Want caps? Shovel poop or make some spears. Too lazy to do that? No caps for you.

No I will abuse some features instead.

Currently you can get some good caps in non-abusive ways from den slave quest. It's good because it involves a chance of danger and meeting other players in den. We need more quests like that, not goddamn spear farming.
Less worldmap and encounter stuff, more unsafe location visiting with good rewards.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: HertogJan on March 29, 2012, 02:20:19 pm
No I will abuse some features instead.

Currently you can get some good caps in non-abusive ways from den slave quest. It's good because it involves a chance of danger and meeting other players in den. We need more quests like that, not goddamn spear farming.
Less worldmap and encounter stuff, more unsafe location visiting with good rewards.

It's more likely spear crafting than farming as crafting goes much faster.
Unsafe locations etc. is fine, as long as getting killed by players doesn't break such repeatable quests. Otherwise it will only end up as yet another way for grievers to grief.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: avv on March 29, 2012, 02:23:13 pm
It's more likely spear crafting than farming as crafting goes much faster.
Unsafe locations etc. is fine, as long as getting killed by players doesn't break such repeatable quests. Otherwise it will only end up as yet another way for grievers to grief.

Yes it must not be like metzgers case where losing the case means you have to use an alt to get another suitcase. Entering the unsafe location and getting stuff done there is the point. Failing must result in a chance of trying again, not giving up and never doing it again.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Rain on March 29, 2012, 02:30:15 pm
Farm 10 k caps with creatures,leave them at the bank,wait a couple month for interests.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: HertogJan on March 29, 2012, 02:48:48 pm
Yes it must not be like metzgers case where losing the case means you have to use an alt to get another suitcase. Entering the unsafe location and getting stuff done there is the point. Failing must result in a chance of trying again, not giving up and never doing it again.

There should be some kind of punishment for not furfilling the quest due to dying or messing up some other way.
Something like with the gunrunner's quest where you get some rep loss.
Also there should be a bunch of these quests to prevent people from camping 1 specific npc.

Farm 10 k caps with creatures,leave them at the bank,wait a couple month for interests.

There still is bank interest? I thought it was removed.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Horatio on March 29, 2012, 02:59:07 pm
What is an interest exactly and why is it there?
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 29, 2012, 10:12:38 pm
What is an interest exactly and why is it there?
It is like real world interest.

Banks, over certain periods of time, add money into your account based on a percentage of your balance.

In this game it is every day.  Put 100k in there get 1k every day free :)

Imagine, 1,000,000 in there :).  10k a day ftw, and growing.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Horatio on March 29, 2012, 11:25:05 pm
Sounds like the best way to earn money when you have the starting capital, Michaelh139 and it sounds pretty sweet like that...

But does it work? Where does all the caps for the interest come from?
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 29, 2012, 11:29:51 pm
Sounds like the best way to earn money when you have the starting capital, Michaelh139 and it sounds pretty sweet like that...

But does it work? Where does all the caps for the interest come from?
WELL, this is gonna discourage you a shitload.

AFAIK, THIS ERA the caps are actually spawned, instead of numbers added to your account like previous era.

Previous era, near the middle, there was a total fucking meltdown of the whole system.  Not enough caps, so many people had numbers representing caps for interest.  I kind of ...  found the fire, and instead of stomping it out I poured gasoline on it.

So many people, lost so many caps, omfg.  It was so funny.  But the kind of funny where your the guy holding the gun and the other guy who is your enemy is quivering in fear. :o
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Horatio on March 29, 2012, 11:48:59 pm
AFAIK, THIS ERA the caps are actually spawned, instead of numbers added to your account like previous era.

Wait, so last era you got caps added to your account, funded by substraction from somewhere, right? Like vendors and paid services... That meant interest. But now, it's SPAWNED, but what do you mean by spawn? They appear out of nowhere on my account?

That sounds like a inflating financial bubble.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 30, 2012, 12:09:18 am
Wait, so last era you got caps added to your account, funded by substraction from somewhere, right? Like vendors and paid services... That meant interest. But now, it's SPAWNED, but what do you mean by spawn? They appear out of nowhere on my account?

That sounds like a inflating financial bubble.
No.

Last era, you got VALUE of caps added to your account.  When ever interest was added, it was VALUE in caps, no actual caps were spawned within the bank system.

However this era, AFAIK, this is the case...  But I am probably wrong.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Roachor on March 30, 2012, 02:06:01 am
All I know is last time I had 600 million in the bank that shit went great depression on me and I ended up a homeless millionaire. Never trusting the bank again.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Hects Hakal on March 30, 2012, 09:22:05 am
How about 5-10 caps on stronger enemies like around sf?
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: likeyoucare on April 03, 2012, 02:55:11 am
1. craft alot of throwing knifes, combat shotguns, metal armors
2. make 5 or more alts and give them crafted stuff
3. make shared tents near every big city with one "tent leader"- guy who see all tents
4. log in every 5 hours to check if NPCs got caps
5. sell ur items and bring caps to tent
6. drive with car (scout) and take all caps from each tent, for example every 2 days

keep crafting
it's like 20k every 2 days
u can exp ur pvp alts while w8ing for caps :)
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Michaelh139 on April 03, 2012, 02:59:11 am
1. craft alot of throwing knifes, combat shotguns, metal armors
2. make 5 or more alts and give them crafted stuff
3. make shared tents near every big city with one "tent leader"- guy who see all tents
4. log in every 5 hours to check if NPCs got caps
5. sell ur items and bring caps to tent
6. drive with car (scout) and take all caps from each tent, for example every 2 days

keep crafting
it's like 20k every 2 days
u can exp ur pvp alts while w8ing for caps :)
or make slaver alt and make approximately 3-8 thousand caps every hour and half-2 hours.  play 5 minutes slave run and afk do smth else get back on... do 3-4 times every day approximately 30k or sell slaves also and my god you could have 100k caps in a day with enough persistance.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Ymeogamaouas on April 03, 2012, 11:29:43 am
What if you dont want to play a slaver?
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: BenKain on April 03, 2012, 11:31:13 am
What if you dont want to play a slaver?

I make about 10k-15k a day, just on the guarded town circuit. Craft and sell my friend, craft and sell.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Gob on April 03, 2012, 04:07:35 pm
Slaving is slow and takes too much time. I prefer to make 50 rockets in 10 mins and go buy from the trader wahatever I need. And I thought they fixed the BoS stealing thing.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: maciek83 on April 03, 2012, 05:42:56 pm
what when you dont want to slave and dont want to craft and ,for gods sake you dont want to fuck with 10 alts and shared tents? solo players are again screwed
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Roachor on April 03, 2012, 06:35:56 pm
If you play alone and don't want to be a slaver you are missing out on the only fun solo experience this game has to offer, not to mention missing out on the easiest and most profitable reward/effort ratio in the game.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: BenKain on April 03, 2012, 07:43:02 pm
what when you dont want to slave and dont want to craft and ,for gods sake you dont want to fuck with 10 alts and shared tents? solo players are again screwed

Well, hey, I'm for most part, a solo player. If you don't want to craft, and you don't want to slave, stop pissing about not having any money. Those are the two big ones right there bub. And it makes sense to, no spear chucking trapper is going to be carrying 200 caps on them. Most people in the wastes are poor, and if you want to continue to be lazy as hell, you can wander around with the Homeless people and Rave Parties.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Gob on April 03, 2012, 08:10:22 pm
Funny how everyone says they are poor but all got level 24 characters :P don't you agree?
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: Roachor on April 03, 2012, 08:13:01 pm
I pulled myself up out of the ghettos of the den by my own bootstraps, now I'm a successful self made multi-thousandaire. You lazy hippies need to go occupy VC and stage a protest until they start giving bluesuits welfare.
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: maciek83 on April 03, 2012, 08:34:50 pm
simple thing like having some spare caps shouldnt require creating alts or any complex solutions
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: BenKain on April 03, 2012, 08:43:40 pm
Mining doesn't require any alts, and i certainly isn't complex...
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: maciek83 on April 03, 2012, 08:57:45 pm
and how mining can give you caps?
to create things that you can sell you need bp alt and dumb searching , to craft you need alt and do boring quest for gun runners
Title: Re: let us earrn caps
Post by: BenKain on April 03, 2012, 09:14:01 pm
Players will generally pay good money for basic mats, usually 10-15 caps a piece. You don't need alts to make money.
Farm some Jet from Mercs and Press Gang to, Players buy that like nothing else.