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Title: How to define The APK
Post by: jet on March 18, 2012, 06:51:13 am
Sorry
I am very strange
want to know evryone how to define APK
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on March 18, 2012, 07:27:26 am
A mythical creature.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Gob on March 18, 2012, 10:36:22 am
Oh snap! Another one of those APK crap topics. Let me explain a bit. There is no such thing as Anti Player Killer. Because if you come to think of it they basically kill players too  ::) you get it? For example this APK guy could kill some random guy and say he was "defending the motherland, blah,blah" . In my oppionion and I guess in the opinion of us Player Killers they are just some dick sucking and ass licking Player Killers with some all mighty and godlike attitude thinking they are the good guys when they are not. Don't be fooled by their knightly nonsense. Ups that was a quote from President Eden  :P . Maybe the only adavantage is that they always and misteriously get rare items or ehm...some power armor(cookiez included). But I guess you need to speak french for that or russian. I belive most APK's in real life are pussyes with small dicks or no dick atall.

This is how you define an APK. Thanks for reading!

Vault-Boy approves!
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Hidden on March 19, 2012, 07:14:27 am
All who say themselves as APK, mostly are PK.
Those players who show ingame that they are friendly and help players are real APK players, but there aren't many of those guys..
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Wichura on March 19, 2012, 07:28:04 am
"APK" has an "A" in front. "PK" doesn't.

It's the only difference.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: T-888 on March 19, 2012, 01:49:34 pm
* cough cough * Junk ... junk * cough cough *
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Swarm on March 19, 2012, 11:31:44 pm
Anti-pk are people who generally agiasnt shooting noobs, random people and blue suits in encounters or when they hold a town.

But its all bull shit because generally you go into a town pk or anti-pk faction is in to do action generally everybody gets shot because they think random people are scouts and are on edge.

Its best to just associate players as pvp apes or pve monkies.

Generally this game is about making alliances and shooting your enemies, and shooting people in enemy gangs. Even anti-pk gangs shoot other anti-pk gangs in this game because they are in differnt factions. Most anti-pk gangs do not give a shit if you are anti-pk or not if you are in a faction they are agiasnt they well shoot you regardless of your philosphy on player killing.

But anyways this arguement goes on forever and well just end up in a flame or troll war best not to start these topics.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: OXXON on March 20, 2012, 12:43:03 am
whats a pvp monkey or a pvp ape?
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Swarm on March 20, 2012, 01:08:57 am
whats a pvp monkey or a pvp ape?

Just some term one of the administrators called the pvp players, pvp apes :P And pve monkey is just something I say as joke for people who don't pvp but play to farm and craft.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: headshot on March 20, 2012, 01:11:18 am
PK will shoot you just like that.
APK will shoot you because you've just been suspected to be an enemy spy.

PvP Ape is the term used to describe the stereotypical PvP Player.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Jotisz on March 20, 2012, 11:05:54 am
I'm surprised noone said this:
"Apk is me. Pkers are everyone I meet:)"
Serriously I don't like either term it feels so out of the game.
Btw there are not just 2 way apk or pk, there are way more to this game.
You can play it as a complete pacifist not just not fighting with players but not even attacking NPCs. Or you can play like a mercenary and do whatever you paid to do. Also if you part of an npc group you can play out that role. Like as a slaver (thanks to the visible tattoo) you can be friendly with the other slavers, on the other hand you can consider Combat armored players Rangers and kill them or do the opposite wear a Combat armor and search for slavers. Just a few idea and they are not used by avarage players.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Fettel on March 20, 2012, 09:48:37 pm
Pk's shoot you first and ask questions later and APK's ask can they shoot you.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: jet on March 22, 2012, 11:19:26 am
Pk's shoot you first and ask questions later and APK's ask can they shoot you.

good

sorry
i want to know your Iintelligence
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Roachor on March 26, 2012, 09:07:12 am
Every time i let someone live they stab me in the back, the best solution is too shoot first then lol at the corpse.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Enzotainment on April 27, 2012, 03:23:33 pm
Every time i let someone live they stab me in the back, the best solution is too shoot first then lol at the corpse.

Normally i greet people i meet in encounters, if they haven't been tagged red by me.
This results in:
- 45% where all involved survive and walk out
- 35% me being shot and killed
- 15% me being shot and killing the agressor myself
- 4% finding a noob to educate and go on hunts with
- 1% finding a likeminded individual to have fun with

Let me say that even if i was killed 95% of the time, it would still be worth meeting that 4% and 1%. So i continue greeting people in random encounters and hope to survive one round (Turnbased ofcourse).

That being said, i would prefer to be classified as APK as opposed to PK. Not for the sake of a "holier than thou" attitude, but a mindset to have fun and feel good about what i do. It makes me feel bad shooting a harmless looking guy. And if that guy i don,t shoot radio's in an alt or friends, so be it. More red names for the list! ;-)
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: lucas. on April 27, 2012, 04:16:26 pm
I just yell "PEACE" and see what happens.


I wouldn't shoot a bluesuit carrying 200k unless he gave me a reason to do so.


If I have something important on me that I want to keep and find another player while travelling I just run away, no point in telling him to keep his distance if you don't know what he intends while having something important in your inventory.


Most of the times I just travel with replaceable stuff so risking a minigun burst might be worthwhile in case that player proves to be friendly.


I've either been lucky or just travelled around the "friendly" areas, I mostly just see PKs in XP farming encounters, like park molerats or centaurs near gordon.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: chocolate_chip_cookies on April 27, 2012, 06:15:36 pm
APK is an anti player killer.
That does not mean he is against killing players.
He is against player killers.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Wichura on April 27, 2012, 10:05:32 pm
APK is an anti player killer.
That does not mean he is against killing players.
He is against player killers.
So he kills anyone he meets and lets the God sort them out. Wise enough.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Johnny Nuclear on April 27, 2012, 11:03:49 pm
APKs = those who kill only Pks
PKs = those who kill others just for stuff, lulz....
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Michaelh139 on April 28, 2012, 04:59:22 am
APKs = Does not exists in the year 2238.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Wichura on April 28, 2012, 07:29:16 am
APKs = those who kill only Pks
PKs = those who kill others just for stuff, lulz....
How do you recognize someone being PK or not? Is it marked somewhere? By nickname? What if you are not sure, because nickname is similiar to what you think PK has? Pew-pew, just in case, right?
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Enzotainment on April 28, 2012, 11:38:28 am
How do you recognize someone being PK or not? Is it marked somewhere? By nickname? What if you are not sure, because nickname is similiar to what you think PK has? Pew-pew, just in case, right?

I think thats the difference right there. PK will shoot just in case (mauser bluesuit will be presumed dangerous, or the pk is just triggerhappy) and APK slowly expands his list of people marked red. APK would have a previous experience with the player they're trying to pk.

Just to be clear:
APK is PK in some cases (when he kills a known pk)
PK is APK in some cases (when, by chance the random guy he kills is PK)
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Johnny Nuclear on April 28, 2012, 12:16:51 pm
How do you recognize someone being PK or not? Is it marked somewhere? By nickname? What if you are not sure, because nickname is similiar to what you think PK has? Pew-pew, just in case, right?

if i am not sure i never shoot.
Many times i was 90% sure that that guy in encounter was PK and wil kill me if i would not be armed, but coz i wasn't 100% sure i let him go.
And if someone shoots me first because he is afraid he can always talk to me and i can excuse that.

This is my personal APK stance, since beggining.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Smeghead on April 28, 2012, 05:07:26 pm
I kill almost only when attacked,and even then I get em to 0 hp or lower and then talk it out,see if I made mistake.if i kill someone that didnt deserve it but i had to do it coz i was expecting someones alts etc i talk to that person and return his stuff..always,even when its money.

So I may not be APK but there sure as hell is difference from this and just shooting all on sight,and then gloating over it in poor english.

this attitude hasn't fired back on me,most of the times it hasn't that is.most of the time I actually met cool ppls.
this wipe hasn't made it easier tho.everyone can be nades or unarmed troll and there is no specific time for tc.Before it was logical move not to go into town in hour that town is taken and thats in.shooting on site in that situation is not necessary bad,but still,if u kill someone w 30 caps,primitive tools and 3 healing powders let him come back and take it

so yea,maybe theres no APK-PK differentiation but rather douchebags - non douchebags


Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: manero on April 28, 2012, 05:21:04 pm
APK? I heard it in the past. Maybe one day they will return. For now 'evil factions' dominated the wasteland.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Zombie Princess on April 28, 2012, 05:57:44 pm
fuck it it is nice weather go out from your rooms and get some sun...fuck computer games...;]
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Enzotainment on April 28, 2012, 06:19:10 pm
APK? I heard it in the past. Maybe one day they will return. For now 'evil factions' dominated the wasteland.

I haven't noticed evil factions dominating the wasteland... but maybe i'm looking in all the wrong places.

And i presume you mean APK factions when you say: "maybe one day they will return". Because APK by my definition is very much alive. Although if you're someone in the PK corner, you'd hardly notice the presence and it wouldn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: manero on April 28, 2012, 06:24:38 pm
I haven't noticed evil factions dominating the wasteland... but maybe i'm looking in all the wrong places.

Definietly.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: JovankaB on April 28, 2012, 06:41:16 pm
Definietly.

Clearly he wasn't looking in town toilets ;D... that's where "evil factions" spend most of their time :)
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: T-888 on April 28, 2012, 06:51:29 pm
Toilets are the true evil.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: John Porno on May 01, 2012, 02:24:27 pm
Clearly he wasn't looking in town toilets ;D... that's where "evil factions" spend most of their time :)
that's not something to laugh about.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: BenKain on May 01, 2012, 03:32:02 pm
Clearly he wasn't looking in town toilets ;D... that's where "evil factions" spend most of their time :)

I would feel so sorry for our characters if they actually had to take a ripe shite. Death on the can would be the number one habeus corpus. 
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: runboy93 on May 01, 2012, 03:34:52 pm
Toilets are the true evil.
I must agree :D
Once got "toilet PKed" at klamath :/ wasn't nice
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Alexandrite on May 01, 2012, 10:29:22 pm
My definition of "APK" and "PK" -

APK: Anti-Player Killer; Player(s) who do not kill other players fun, these are most likely the RPG players or a very well known player who can be kind or rude most of the time...

PK: Player Killer; Player(s) who kill for entertainment, revenge, or just play idiotic trolling, these are most likely RPG players or a very well known player who can be evil and/or hated by everyone most of the time...
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: maciek83 on May 01, 2012, 10:46:41 pm
apk is a person who does not shoot unless atacked first or its tc, so simple
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Johnny Nuclear on May 01, 2012, 11:06:38 pm
apk is a person who does not shoot unless atacked first or its tc, so simple

yeah and mostly also kills players who are reported by someone else as PKs, and that is the point where missunderstanding and forum rages come from.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Alexandrite on May 02, 2012, 12:16:07 am
Yeah, my definition is clear and simple, cause i played the game for a long time and i learned a lot from it :P
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: T-888 on May 02, 2012, 12:34:06 am
yeah and mostly also kills players who are reported by someone else as PKs, and that is the point where missunderstanding and forum rages come from.

OLD name-colorizing , at least then you will be shot without any misunderstandings. Why good features are taken away ?
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on May 02, 2012, 01:47:04 am
PK - Idiot bluesuit killer that makes several alts to burst, grenade noobies loitering around NCR  ;D
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Ganado on May 02, 2012, 02:55:12 am
PK - Idiot bluesuit killer that makes several alts to burst, grenade noobies loitering around NCR  ;D
No, that's a griefer. If you don't see the difference... ah forget it.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: T-888 on May 02, 2012, 03:33:38 am
Nobody is black and white. Almost each individual has it's own definition of that word , logical choice is to not use it unless the definition has been published somewhere and agreed upon. In case if that cannot be done , think of something else , otherwise this will go on forever.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Senrain on May 13, 2012, 08:56:55 am
    Everyone should keep in mind the line between PK and Anti-PK is very blurred. Everyone has their own unique way of handling a player encounter. Some lean one way, some lean the other. There is no sure-fire way to look at someone and just say, "Yep, he's a PK" or "Oh yeah, that guy is an APK". It's often a matter of how far they are leaning to either side.

    I could be considered a PK because if someone walks into my encounter and I deem them to be a threat, I'm going to be shooting first. On the other hand some could say I'm friendly because I don't exploit the weak. I don't kill bluesuits, and even help them if I can afford to. Would I fit into the PK or Anti-PK category? The answer is neither, everyone is unique in their dealings with other players. Stop trying to see things in black and white.

Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on May 13, 2012, 09:08:38 am
LOL, I hope i don't get the banhammer but I remember quite clearly last session your anti pk behavior when the TKs camped gecko mine for several days.  How did you accumulate that pile of hammers again?  oh, I love how memory is so selective, embrace what you are.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Senrain on May 13, 2012, 09:25:49 am
LOL, I hope i don't get the banhammer but I remember quite clearly last session your anti pk behavior when the TKs camped gecko mine for several days.  How did you accumulate that pile of hammers again?  oh, I love how memory is so selective, embrace what you are.

I've already made it clear that my association with TKs, and it's policies towards newbies are over.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Rani on June 28, 2012, 10:41:09 am
PK: Player killer- They kill for pleasure and too makes others suffer, they town burst, kill anyone on sight in an encounter, etc.

APK: Anti Player killer- someone who has everything against player killing. They will not kill any players unless necessary (E.g If they were to shoot them they would shoot back, they will kill known PKs on sight, etc).
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Spotty on June 28, 2012, 11:55:14 am
APK: Anti Player killer- someone who has everything against player killing. They will not kill any players no matter what happens.

Thats a whiner. Whiners whine that they are apk and wont hurt noone when the truth is they cant get a damn gun. Give them a gun and they turn right around and burst you in the back of the head first chance they get.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Rain on June 29, 2012, 12:40:18 am
I've already made it clear that my association with TKs, and it's policies towards newbies are over.

The strong devour the weak.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: TKs-KaBoom on June 29, 2012, 08:48:15 am
A mythical creature like a unicorn or god
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: John.Metzger on June 29, 2012, 06:47:11 pm
while reading this thread..
i become a bit depressed about all this time i wasted on the fucking internet..
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 29, 2012, 09:10:16 pm
APK is an anagram for PKA wich stands for Player Killing Ape
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Prometheus Pithras on June 30, 2012, 03:44:51 am
Addicted Player Killer or anagram to PKA, player-killing addiction
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Brick on June 30, 2012, 06:05:38 am
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=APK (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=APK)

Definitely the third one listed above. Pirates, hot chicks, and orgies. Sounds like us.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Brujah on June 30, 2012, 12:35:03 pm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=APK (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=APK)

Definitely the third one listed above. Pirates, hot chicks, and orgies. Sounds like us.

Ha!
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: John.Metzger on June 30, 2012, 08:58:56 pm
i heard APK will fix the server, with love.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Mike Crosser on June 30, 2012, 10:26:28 pm
Yes i also heard that giant butterflies are gonna fly out of EPA and carry me to the marshmallow kingdom where I will save the princess of king sugar when I find the candy castle that she is held in and that people will then stop bitching about TC.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Brujah on June 30, 2012, 10:35:29 pm
Yes i also heard that giant butterflies are gonna fly out of EPA and carry me to the marshmallow kingdom where I will save the princess of king sugar when I find the candy castle that she is held in and that people will then stop bitching about TC.

I think you'll die of diabetes before you finish your quest...
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: John.Metzger on June 30, 2012, 11:19:41 pm
if he´s talking about candies at all..
this doctor who just gave you those pills could become my new best friend mike :)
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Brujah on July 01, 2012, 12:43:17 am
if he´s talking about candies at all..
this doctor who just gave you those pills could become my new best friend mike :)

Prescriptioned cough medicine + Couple pain killers COULD do some effect...
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: John.Metzger on July 01, 2012, 01:11:06 am
need more advices, pm me brujah.
oh wait, forum rules. nvm dude
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Rani on September 30, 2012, 01:15:54 pm
Thats a whiner. Whiners whine that they are apk and wont hurt noone when the truth is they cant get a damn gun. Give them a gun and they turn right around and burst you in the back of the head first chance they get.
Oh. I didn't see it that way, my bad.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: McBorn on October 10, 2012, 11:17:08 am
Anti-PK those who do not shoot on sight everyone, just their enemy known nicks. Its almost same as PK
PK is the opposite.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: brad smalls on October 10, 2012, 01:05:40 pm
APK is TNB and BBS oh and sometimes Hawks if you need help look for them when they are TCing.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Margaux on October 10, 2012, 03:20:31 pm
At that time I was an anti-pk faithful to my principles. It's a hard life, because you tend to end up dead when no reinforcement. You take the first shots of the bandits and finds it difficult to react at times. I usually let my gun second hand. My idea was to make the cowards think they could kill pajamas without problems. They identify they can do wickedness because we are unarmed. And we reward them with a sweet surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaN3JAn1SaI

I was Mallory, noob times...at that time I did not even know the shortcuts of the game.
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: brad smalls on October 10, 2012, 03:26:09 pm
Fucking knock down and out with a fucking burst from a fucking shotgun
Title: Re: How to define The APK
Post by: Brujah on October 17, 2012, 12:39:16 am
I would never rape or steal someone who doesn't deserve it or do things like killing slavers at den or people in T-ray's without a reason.


I guess I'm APK enough.



I find it funny when known PK/baserapers get angry at you because you shot first.