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Title: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 22, 2011, 04:46:09 am
hello guys, i've been playing the game for a while but only now i got registred.

My question for a new build is: Can a sniper-doctor-pathfinder build be effective? I was trying some builds in the character planner and i got this

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/buildmd.png/

im a oldschool player and like some role play, so thats the reason of such 'complex' build. So, im asking for your opinions  ;D already thank

ps: sorry the bad english
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Kanly on December 22, 2011, 05:22:08 am
luck 6... I think your sniper is for pve, pvp sniper have usually luck 10, and perc 9  (cigs)
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 22, 2011, 08:32:37 am
i see... i'm aware of such specific builds, but as i said i'm looking for something more complex and 10 in any stat made impossible achieve this goal hehehe. BUT, as i look at the combat session of the character planner i got the 95% of hit chance at 50 hex what seems excellent (even with only 6 of PE), the problem was the only 61% of critical against the overpowered 85% with the 3 more criticals (that i only have 1 so i could take the pathfinder perks heh). Anyway, thanks for the tips, I think that this build its good enough for a crafter sniper wannabe hehehe
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 22, 2011, 08:36:30 am
Pathfinder has almost no effect anymore, don't take it, unless you are making uber-taxi-proxy alt with 300% Outdoorsman. On "regular" char it's nearby to "pointless".

What do you want to craft with that char, except drugs? Why 60% Repair?
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 22, 2011, 08:59:54 am
hey wichura, thanks for the tips... You said that pathfinder has no effect D: I thought that it would be useful for my forever alone survivalist hehe. I put 60% just to spend in something that could be a first lvl of SG crafting.

The ideia of this char was a very fast travel crafter (with some skills at sniper) so if the pathfinder is useless theres anothe way to get a fast travel character? If not I'm thinking in the more criticals...
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 22, 2011, 11:31:49 am
Yeah, buy a car. Even the most crappy one, scout, is much faster than pr0-uber taxi char with 2x Pathfinder.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 22, 2011, 03:05:31 pm
nice  ;) well i took a look at the wiki and the buggy seems pretty nice (speed and fuel consumption) my only worry is how to find a good amount of energy cells (seems that they're pretty hard to get in fonline heh). Anyway, I'll take the more criticals instead of the 2 pathfinders, maybe this way i'll be a more capable pvp sniper. Any suggestions for a better perk choice?
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 22, 2011, 03:28:37 pm
my only worry is how to find a good amount of energy cells (seems that they're pretty hard to get in fonline heh)
To make SEC (Small Energy Cells) create an alt, call him like SECmaker823, tag Energy Wepons, Science and something. You need at least 30% EW and 40% Science to make SEC, but you should be able to do so on first level of SECmaker823.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 22, 2011, 04:30:29 pm
hey, thanks for the tips again, i was looking at the wiki again and i could take the 60% at science and 30% in energy weapons. Look at this new build

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/ssssfx.png/

i took 1 point of strenght (im worried if 2 of streght sucks too bad  :-X) and put in perception, so i could get the sharpshooter and be a more capable pvp sniper

another thing is the repair skill need to mantain weapons and the car. Is it really needed (at high percentage)?

the idea is a lone survivalist without any support alt, but that build seems impossible to achieve  D:

edit: sorry, the current perks are

lifegiver
weapon handling
more criticals (2)
better criticals
awareness
sharpshooter
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 23, 2011, 07:37:36 am
another thing is the repair skill need to mantain weapons and the car. Is it really needed (at high percentage)?
About 120-150% Repair should be enough (with Tool in active hand), however I've repaired with 180% and never failed.

Yes, this means yet another alt to be created, CarMechanic654. You can try to combine SEC-maker with this repair man, by tagging EW, Science and Repair, then train such alt on some quests and SEC making until you reach needed % of Repair.

Welcome to 2238.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Shonsu on December 23, 2011, 04:05:52 pm
About 120-150% Repair should be enough (with Tool in active hand), however I've repaired with 180% and never failed.

Welcome to 2238.
I hope you're talking about repairing cars because I've failed with 280 repair with Tool in active hand on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 23, 2011, 04:38:10 pm
well, you convinced me... At least I have 2 pc's at home heh. Well, I've already created my new alt. The final build is

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/defbuil.png/

it will be a pseudo sniper doctor (with some pathfinding). The only thing that left me upset was the only 2 strenght. To offset this i'm thinking in the pack rat perk (not sure yet)

I'll try to create the crafter~mechanic alt too, but this will be another build... ehehhe

thanks again, now is time to play  ;D
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: wladimiiir on December 24, 2011, 01:45:07 pm
To make SEC (Small Energy Cells) create an alt, call him like SECmaker823, tag Energy Wepons, Science and something. You need at least 30% EW and 40% Science to make SEC, but you should be able to do so on first level of SECmaker823.

Excuse me, but ALT for this? Are you kidding? This is MMORPG, there are people here except you, who can make sell you this. If everyone thinks this way, there is no reason to play multiplayer game.
I suggest: Make friends, trade with them, you can offer them something, they can give you something...thats whats multiplayer world is about.
I know I might be naive but in my opinion, you are ruining multiplayer world with having ALT for everything.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 24, 2011, 02:27:19 pm
Excuse me, but ALT for this? Are you kidding? This is MMORPG, there are people here except you, who can make sell you this. If everyone thinks this way, there is no reason to play multiplayer game.
I suggest: Make friends, trade with them, you can offer them something, they can give you something...thats whats multiplayer world is about.
I know I might be naive but in my opinion, you are ruining multiplayer world with having ALT for everything.
Alt is the fastest, the most comfortable way, not looking for some generous SEC vendor. I only adapted to existing rules, multiplayer or not. Deal with it.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: wladimiiir on December 24, 2011, 02:47:20 pm
Alt is the fastest, the most comfortable way, not looking for some generous SEC vendor. I only adapted to existing rules, multiplayer or not. Deal with it.

I know it is the fastest, but is it really what is MMORPG about?
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Tomowolf on December 24, 2011, 08:33:50 pm
Don't call the game unless you know what is it about. Sorry man but other ways at getting items suck and they arent still balance as it is beta - there are not much person which will buy or sell small amount/ not worth much items.
Just make an alt and be happy of alt user, or do not play energy weapons :P.
Best thing you could do then is alt.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 25, 2011, 07:36:22 am
I know it is the fastest, but is it really what is MMORPG about?
I've never played other MMOs, so I can only tell about FOnline - yes, it's all about the fastest, the easiest way. Not to mention about not trusting strangers you meet, so you can never tell if they want to trade, or just "pwn n00b for teh lulz".

Barely anyone would bother in looking for a player that has this or that for trade, when he can just make yet another alt to reach his goal(s). But aren't we off the topic already?
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 25, 2011, 10:13:46 am
yeah, seems that we're already off topic  :P. Anyway the alt question its interesting, as tomowolf said, it is pretty hard to live with one character in such hostile game. Maybe when the game become more balanced it will be possible, but for now i'm sure that this is almost impossible D:


@ontopic
Is 2 strength too low? I was thinking in 2 and at lvl 6 take the pack rat perk (so i could get the sharpshooter perk)
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: wladimiiir on December 25, 2011, 11:27:09 am
Not game needs to be balanced, but your build. Your char does not have to be able to do everything.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Stigmata on December 25, 2011, 11:40:30 am
sure, but in a game that have the full loot feature, surviving depending on other its pretty hard, especially with our 'pacific' comunity hahah

I personally like the 'harsh' game play but also think that the full loot for example its sometimes annoying (it could be a semi full loot, you lose only your back pack for example), something that really encourage the player to have farming alts
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Wichura on December 25, 2011, 11:54:38 am
Your char does not have to be able to do everything.
And it isn't able. But other chars are able, so I make them. After verysoonwipe Mad Max Wannabe and combat ape is a must, rest will come according to needs.

I was forcing one-char-only gamestyle for a long time, since I've started to no-life in November 2009. It's pointless, so I surrendered and made an alt. Then another one, and another. It was much more effective, less time consuming and easier - and I want to play a game to have fun, not hard work.
Title: Re: pathfinder-crafter Build
Post by: Michaelh139 on December 26, 2011, 06:23:01 am
Even if you had a char that could do everything, cooldowns would make it totally useless in large scale proportion.
Yeah, you got a multi-skill shitted char, that can craft drug, armor, and weapon.
But there is only so much craft cool-down, to efficiently craft 1 of these at a time.
So even if such existed, it would still be 5x better, to just make a specialize alt, for each one of these anyways, to bypass humungous cooldowns.

srry, for mostly offtopic.