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is the famous "critical burster build", but really dont know if this works, what do you think?
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa112/Fede_Unimev/Burstercritical.jpg
cya
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Interesting it looks like this char would end up as a doctor too. Personally I would put 1 point to ST from EN less hp but no downside to bg skill with LSW. Or I wouldn't make it to a doc and I would make Fa too 100 doc to 50-60. And pump all my points to BG and maybe add some to outdorsman too max to 40 so its not that slow when you need to walk alone but I'm sure you would use a car instead of walking. Personally I like if someone follows my chars so I always make it that he can have 1 follower its not important but I find it better that way. 9 action point is ok btw but I think having 7 for a one burster is more then enough in rt for tb 8 and if you want to burst twice make it that you have 10 AP in rt (one point from EN to AG or one from ST if you pump BG skill more). Its my idea only and I'm not playing for such a long time....
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"Personally I would put 1 point to ST from EN"
And make EN uneven number...?
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Interesting it looks like this char would end up as a doctor too. Personally I would put 1 point to ST from EN less hp but no downside to bg skill with LSW. Or I wouldn't make it to a doc and I would make Fa too 100 doc to 50-60. And pump all my points to BG and maybe add some to outdorsman too max to 40 so its not that slow when you need to walk alone but I'm sure you would use a car instead of walking. Personally I like if someone follows my chars so I always make it that he can have 1 follower its not important but I find it better that way. 9 action point is ok btw but I think having 7 for a one burster is more then enough in rt for tb 8 and if you want to burst twice make it that you have 10 AP in rt (one point from EN to AG or one from ST if you pump BG skill more). Its my idea only and I'm not playing for such a long time....
Almost every powerbuild ends up as a doctor. It's very important for your character to be able to heal itself during a fight, especially to heal its crippled arm so it can hold the weapon and make some other use in PvP than just being a meatshield.
The downside of ST is not noticeable, the build is calculated well in that matter. Taking 1 point from EN is just stupid, like Jay said.
Lol about lowering FA or Doc, pumping points to BG because it doesn't make difference - you just loose your points, adding points to outdoorsman - who needs that for a powerbuild, no comment about followers...
You won't burst twice with 10AP. 9AP is enough, you don't have to wait too long to load up the second burst.
Personally I had some calculations and it looks it's better to take BRD than More Criticals or Better Criticals, but that's theory, I never had a critical burster. Looks weird to have a burster without BRD though.
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Personally I don't believe in critical based bursters of any kind. LSW does devastating damage even without any bonuses. The thing which counts is resistance, so take 2 x toughness and 2x action boy to have two bursts in one row. And don't forget with strenght penalty (-20%) you need 220-230% bg skill or you can take psycho, then 210% skill should be fine.
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non-drug: http://www.imagebam.com/image/916612134206842
Drug: http://www.imagebam.com/image/dd36ef134207395
They are both based on using the LSW. (seeing as you have a 6 STR I figure it's lsw) I know I put BRD with lsw but it helps the Critical damage ALOT. You get a crit with these Bitches the dude is dead, no questions asked.
First one is more of a 1-hit killer based. Second is more reliable, with Bonus rate of Fire (with jet = Double burst). I didn't put in Better Critical because as I've heard it doesn't do much for bursts at all.
Both builds you gotta be dedicated to to finish. :P
These may or may not be what you're after but I think they'd do very well compared to similar builds.
I think your build is "ok", but I feel these are better.
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awareness? wtf? is a pvp build
otherwise, I think the same as you, you better have brd, but I have
heard rumors that increasing critical chance is much better
I would like a answer from a gm
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awareness? wtf? is a pvp build
otherwise, I think the same as you, you better have brd, but I have
heard rumors that increasing critical chance is much better
I would like a answer from a gm
I take awareness with EVERY Build. You would be surprised how much it helps in a fight.... It's more of a tactical choice.
P.s. Why must it be a GM that answers you? most likely players who play for a long time doing pvp have best knowledge about builds. I'm only goin 1-year so.
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I am looking forward to meet your awareness jet build against mine double toughness double brd psycho build ;)
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I am looking forward to meet your awareness jet build against mine double toughness double brd psycho build ;)
Lol tanks are it's nemesis obviously, we are talking about crit builds herp durp. besides I have no doubt it'd kick it's ass, rocketlauncher max range + Crits vs low PE tank = win
But don't forget that awareness would be of tactical advantage and fightiing isn't just sitting there duking it out in one position.
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of course, rocket launcher + crits = very good combination, crit based lsw bursters are maybe good for attacking at max. range...
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I take awareness with EVERY Build.
I even take awareness with my cattleprod melee build. It's just very good perk. :}
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non-drug: http://www.imagebam.com/image/916612134206842
It has 4 strenght and weapon handling, so 7ST for holding weapons, it's for miniguns! :<
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What do I think of this build ? :) http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa112/Fede_Unimev/Burstercritical.jpg
It is bad , won't compete with other BG powerbuilds.
Why? 16 or 21% crit is low(crit is not meant for big gunners) , no matter what BG crit build you are gonna make it will still be unreliable because , no stonewall ,less health and each time you shoot it's like flipping a coin with 5 sides , maybe you will get lucky. Oh yeah no weapon handling means you can't use jet , you can use only cigs and nuka , 10 AP with BROF ;D
http://www.imagebam.com/image/dd36ef134207395
This is not a crit based build , just replace MC for lifegiver and it will be a fine build , but not as good as mine :) you dun't have stonewall.
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it's a good build for bg burster, but anyway ctritical chances are to low. only 1/5 of your bursts will be critical. SO calculate- you will deal deavastating attacks only every 5 attack. Bigguns have enough damage without critical hits just with brd. i know the one thing exactly - 4/5 of times u'll be owned by any other bigguner. So make a right decision
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What do I think of this build ? :) http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa112/Fede_Unimev/Burstercritical.jpg
It is bad , won't compete with other BG powerbuilds.
Why? 16 or 21% crit is low(crit is not meant for big gunners) , no matter what BG crit build you are gonna make it will still be unreliable because , no stonewall ,less health and each time you shoot it's like flipping a coin with 5 sides , maybe you will get lucky. Oh yeah no weapon handling means you can't use jet , you can use only cigs and nuka , 10 AP with BROF ;D
http://www.imagebam.com/image/dd36ef134207395
This is not a crit based build , just replace MC for lifegiver and it will be a fine build , but not as good as mine :) you dun't have stonewall.
the build use jet, cigs, nuka and BUFF
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you dun't have stonewall.
Stonelol ? Oh yeah its the best perk of this game for sure...
So, X-Treme, if you want to do a crit roket take better critical, otherwise dont take it, and take a LG for example. And T-888, it is possible to do a crit BG with 2 shoot without weapon handling, so ok you have 1/5 to do a crit, but u shoot 2 time each turn, so its not that bad.
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Hmm, I really don't think better critical perk helps on RL build. From what I've seen it provides only knockdowns and knockouts from time to time, which is useless for rocket launchers imho because the most of the critical rocket hits are supposed to be deadly.
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Hmm, I really don't think better critical perk helps on RL build. From what I've seen it provides only knockdowns and knockouts from time to time, which is useless for rocket launchers imho because the most of the critical rocket hits are supposed to be deadly.
hahahaahha, it increases the damage done by the critical hit, its easy to know, my EW Pistlero does 100DMG with crticals of laser pistol using beter criticals, otherwise it will only do 50 or 60.
the way how it works is unknown, thanks devs!!
I think the built is bad, you can do a critical triple burster and had a 3/5 of make a crit if you use all your AP, but probably you will not survive to spend all the burst
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you can do a critical triple burster and had a 3/5 of make a crit if you use all your AP, but probably you will not survive to spend all the burst
That is not how maths works.
3 burst with each one having 4/5 chances to NOT do crit give (4/5)^3 to not have a crit at all, so 1 - (4/5)^3 = 0.488 to do at least one crit.
It's still less than 1/2.
But you are still right in saying that it is not worth trying a crit BG.
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hahahaahha, it increases the damage done by the critical hit, its easy to know, my EW Pistlero does 100DMG with crticals of laser pistol using beter criticals, otherwise it will only do 50 or 60.
wow, you are comparing aimed shots with uncalled shots (bursts) despite the fact there are different crit tables for these two kinds of critical hits. I'm not good in math but I would say one critical rocket with better crit could do damage 5-10 more than without BC, so no big deal.