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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Off-topic discussions => Topic started by: lolo787 on May 25, 2011, 10:06:09 pm
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HI and welcome to my new topic well this is a question what are you going to do when project v13 takes the beta are you going to leave FOnline 2238? or still playing it instead of the original fallout online ?
(http://www.modojuegos.es/files/2009/04/project_v13.jpg)
gameplay?
(http://fanboygaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/500x_project_v13_screenshot1.jpg)
(http://images.mmosite.com/news/2009/12/15/projectv13/projectv13_art09.jpg)
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i will play the 2 i dont care if it is pay to play i will play ittttttttttttttt
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DONT DOUBLE POST!!! YARGHRRR!!!
No, I'm just kidding. I'm totally gonna play the fuck out of that game until it hates its pussy. ;=|
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I dunno... surely i will play V13 if Bethesda allows Interplay to publish it. Proabbly i will continue with FOnline for when the server are down ;P
Nah, just kidding. I'll split myself between 2 games. As i always do.
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At this point it isn't up to Bethesda to "allow" interplay to do anything it's in the hands of the court.
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People still believing this will get ever released? :D
Besides this, they want to earn money with this game. It's catered to the lowest common determinator, WoW stuff will be in, and so on.
Not even mentioning all this "lulzy" stuff they provided yet with those news items. It's a total fail.
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I rather play minesweeper.
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¬¬ this game is coming out and its going to be the best bethesda has no more problem they fix that the beta is realeseed in 2012
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>bethesda
I stopped giving a fu*k bout their games since oblivion came out. I just hope they dont butcher fallout like they did elder scrolls....
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I just hope they dont butcher fallout like they did elder scrolls....
They already did, in my opinion.
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Beaver98 and Andr3aZ, you're confusing Bethesda and Interplay.
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¬¬ this game is coming out and its going to be the best bethesda has no more problem they fix that the beta is realeseed in 2012
1.- its developed by Interplay the original creators of Fallout
2.- some time ago Inerplay was almost in bankrupty, only some of the original guys left, it still called Interplay but it is not the Interplay of 10 years ago.
3.- New Vegas is developed by the Obsidian guys, they have the original artistic creator and the writter of the fallout bible, NV is canon
4.- the ingame images arent real ones, they were used for proof that Interplay was doing something in 2009 in his legal problems with Bethesda
5.- The game is like the last Duke Nukem, it WILL NEVER BE RELEASED, Interplay will go to the helll, Bethesda will hold the rights. (the new Duke Nukem is OTHER not the one that was developed for 10 years)
I agree with Surf, truth hurts
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1.- its developed by Interplay the original creators of Fallout
2.- some time ago Inerplay was almost in bankrupty, only some of the original guys left, it still called Interplay but it is not the Interplay of 10 years ago.
3.- New Vegas is developed by the Obsidian guys, they have the original artistic creator and the writter of the fallout bible, NV is canon
4.- the ingame images arent real ones, they were used for proof that Interplay was doing something in 2009 in his legal problems with Bethesda
5.- The game is like the last Duke Nukem, it WILL NEVER BE RELEASED, Interplay will go to the helll, Bethesda will hold the rights. (the new Duke Nukem is OTHER not the one that was developed for 10 years)
I agree with Surf, truth hurts
so you think its not going out or you dont what it to go out? i will play it because from interplay and its going to be free but there are going to be somethings premuim but it iwll be free
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lolo, where exactly did you get that information? According to the v13 forum it has yet to be decided whether it will be subscription/microtransaction although it was stated there would be some sort of payment involved otherwise large MMO's do not generate enough money to keep servers running.
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lolo, where exactly did you get that information? According to the v13 forum it has yet to be decided whether it will be subscription/microtransaction although it was stated there would be some sort of payment involved otherwise large MMO's do not generate enough money to keep servers running.
in the forum says thath it could be free but like champions online with some extra payments for armors or bonus that sais in the forum or that is what i udenrsteand
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so you think its not going out or you dont what it to go out? i will play it because from interplay and its going to be free but there are going to be somethings premuim but it iwll be free
1.- IT WILL NOT GO OUT, not because i like that, because its only a temporary form of keep the legal process about the copyright of Fallout open
2.-Interplay is no longer Interplay they could have the same name but not the same guys of the first Fallouts
3.-Images look horrible, they dont fit with fallout style
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3.-Images look horrible, they dont fit with fallout style
Because it's old... ::) OMG, there are lot of haters who is hating V13. WHY??? I'm waiting for this Projects because it's something not from Bethsuck. I'm not scared about WoW system - why? Because WoW is the best selling MMO and I played WoW 4 years ago for 1 year.
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IT WILL NOT GO OUT, not because i like that, because its only a temporary form of keep the legal process about the copyright of Fallout open
What's the reason for Interplay to keep the copyright, without of actually making a game? They need to make some money to survive and the legal process isn't cheap thing at all.
Images look horrible, they dont fit with fallout style
These images are not from Fallout Online, it was said by Fallout Chris on their forums. Anyway, most likely we'll see the first ACTUAL (not these fake ones) screenshots on E3 2011.
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What's the reason for Interplay to keep the copyright, without of actually making a game? They need to make some money to survive and the legal process isn't cheap thing at all.
These images are not from Fallout Online, it was said by Fallout Chris on their forums. Anyway, most likely we'll see the first ACTUAL (not these fake ones) screenshots on E3 2011.
1.- They are just scared and dont know what to do, like that little studio who try to did Duke Nukem for Take2, it stay on developing like 10 years, then Take2 put a demand and disolve the studio, and himself do the new Duke Nukem Forebur
Anyway there is a posibility of release an actual game, but you need to take in count that it wont be a revolutionary game like Fallout 1 and 2 were in the 90', it will be another generic shooter MMORPG, but i need to say again that Interplay is no more Interplay, so the game will be very diferent, like fallout 3 was, maybe is a good game but it will not suit with the canon.
Because it's old... ::) OMG, there are lot of haters who is hating V13. WHY??? I'm waiting for this Projects because it's something not from Bethsuck. I'm not scared about WoW system - why? Because WoW is the best selling MMO and I played WoW 4 years ago for 1 year.
Something that dont comes from Bethesda dont means that is something good, also Bethesda keep alive the Fo spirit, and now Fallout get his 3D RPG truly canon game wich is NV (yes it is)
Im trying to say that there is no matter from what studio comes the videogame, if there are some guys that were important in the first games, like Chris Avellone in the NV
Also im not scared about WoW system.....im scared about Fonline sistem, its harsh, but WoW is becoming bored and light with the time, also in my personal point of apreciation something that is the best selled means that is a piece of shit (i already play WoW, i didnt like it) just take a look to manures like CoD in all of his presentations, Gars of War, etc... In this world the idiots are like 99.9% so it shouldnt be strange
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it will be another generic shooter MMORPG
How you could judge a game, that doesn't even have a single actual screenshot or a design document describing setting? You might be right, but most likely you're not, because they are really interested in making a game, that would be popular (I remember they said somewhere, that they want to have a stable 1 million of the players) and give them a chance to get out from the financial pit.
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People still believing this will get ever released? :D
Closed beta is already going on, you can try signing up.
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Closed beta is already going on[...]
And so is a lawsuit.
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How you could judge a game, that doesn't even have a single actual screenshot or a design document describing setting? You might be right, but most likely you're not, because they are really interested in making a game, that would be popular (I remember they said somewhere, that they want to have a stable 1 million of the players) and give them a chance to get out from the financial pit.
what they said means nothing, and 1million of stable players sounds weird, also since there isnt any document or screenshot describing anything i think that the game will never come out....or it is in very early steps...since 2007
Closed beta is like garage dragons, you hear about they but you can proof his existence
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just use search about bethesda vs interplay rights. (at us .gov web site)
if interplay got good lawyer they got no problem.
i post it long time ago cant find now...
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Didn't Interplay already when the rights to the franchise to make an mmo? What's the deal with this "lawsuit" surf?
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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1057232/000117091807000324/0001170918-07-000324.txt
find it
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I think that even if Bethesda won, it would continue developing Fallout Online, so it is going to come out either way.
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Closed beta is already going on, you can try signing up.
lol theres no closed beta can you proof it? i dont think so
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hey, v13 is like spear of destiny. if people like u or half fonline people join it - bethesda won.
v13 project - like banksy - nobody know :D
i dont know beta testers ! ;)
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1.- IT WILL NOT GO OUT, not because i like that, because its only a temporary form of keep the legal process about the copyright of Fallout open
2.-Interplay is no longer Interplay they could have the same name but not the same guys of the first Fallouts
3.-Images look horrible, they dont fit with fallout style
This. Also I recognise they aren't actually screen shots but my money is it becoming a very generic MMORPG with the initial player base consisting mainly of the Fallout 3 fans who do not acknowledge there ever being a Fallout before Fallout 3.
Plus to my knowledge Interplay have no actual experience with making an MMORPG and with their incredibly limited budget I just don't see it happening. Besides we already have a Fallout MMORPG... 2238 anyone? Oh wait everyone is waiting for the wipe...
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Looks cool, lets try, eh?
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Something that dont comes from Bethesda dont means that is something good, also Bethesda keep alive the Fo spirit, and now Fallout get his 3D RPG truly canon game wich is NV (yes it is)
Im trying to say that there is no matter from what studio comes the videogame, if there are some guys that were important in the first games, like Chris Avellone in the NV
Also im not scared about WoW system.....im scared about Fonline sistem, its harsh, but WoW is becoming bored and light with the time, also in my personal point of apreciation something that is the best selled means that is a piece of shit (i already play WoW, i didnt like it) just take a look to manures like CoD in all of his presentations, Gars of War, etc... In this world the idiots are like 99.9% so it shouldnt be strange
What did you talk about FOnline in Project V13?! There are two different games and you shouldn't compare it. New Vegas is good game, I enjoyed playing this but IMO it will be better. Beth has a fucking stupid engine what I hate. I don't like RPG where you can see from character eyes or new styles for RPG from left side character - it sucks. Fallouts should be from 360 camera 3D or TPP. But anyway, back to the topic I think Interplay #2 will make average MMO but we should give they a chance. Maybe they'll make good game which give us some fun.
I don't play a new games, example suck consoles games like GoW, new CoDs (I have Call of Duty 1, 2 and 4) so I don't disscus about it. Maybe one of the new game I will buy polish Witcher 2, but right now in my country or my nearest town there isn't here this game.
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So i make a question no one respond it anything you said its not going out well peoiple that thniks its going out tell me if you are gonna play it or still playing FOnline 2238?
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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1057232/000117091807000324/0001170918-07-000324.txt
find it
for now (i normally read news about that in the wiki or in the Interplay and Bethesda page) Interplay have the rights to do a MMORPG since 2007, in fall 2008 Bethesda get a requisition of show what Interplay was doing, the result were the screenshots and another concepts arts that you can see in the internet, including the official Interplay page, but they are fake (exept the concept arts).
Recently Bethesda get another requisition form, now Interplay need to show all the sells of his products related to Fallout franchise, and calculate his costs in money (wich fortunately is really low), to determine the "damage" against Beth, this means that Bethesda have the rights of Fallout as a sure thing, and Interplay have the rights to do the MMORPG p. v13, but they need to pay a % of what they win to Bethesda for keep the Fallout name in the game
Isnt everything that happen, but is what i can remember now, you can search it in the Fallout wiki in the news section
PD: Note the game is being dev since 2007, wich means 3years and we still not being sure of the game, in the meantime nothing about v13 will come out, so enjoy Fonline because is awesome that it exists, and we maybe see it die in some time for some random Bethesda wish
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we maybe see it die in some time for some random Bethesda wish
It is very unlikely, because Fonline (note, that it isn't a Fallout game, which is a registered trademark) is a free, non-profit, stand alone game which have a separate, written from scratch engine, which is only using some resources from F2. It is possible to make the game work without of resources from original Fallouts.
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It would be a sad day if v13 comes out and everyone leaves fonline 2238....
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So i make a question no one respond it anything you said its not going out well peoiple that thniks its going out tell me if you are gonna play it or still playing FOnline 2238?
YES, v13 will be a game were the real life rich can buy armors and good stuff, so power will be defined by how many dollars do you have, and i hate that, i dont even give him a chance
PRAY TO FONLINE
It is very unlikely, because Fonline (note, that it isn't a Fallout game, which is a registered trademark) is a free, non-profit, stand alone game which have a separate, written from scratch engine, which is only using some resources from F2. It is possible to make the game work without of resources from original Fallouts.
It would be very good if thats enough, but it isnt, id say Behesda wish, the history of the videogames is full of big Co eating little studios:
Crash Bandicoot trilogy developed by Naughty Dog, produced by Universal Interactive. Naughty Dog had the license and all the rights of Crash, but Universal go to the court and win the rights of Crash killing that beautiful franchise and making shit like Mind-Over Mutantt
Spyro the dragon from Imsomniac same history than Crash, produced by Universal, they go to court and get the rights
When you hear GTa you inmediately think "its made by Rockstar" but it isnt true, the original game was dev by DNM (or DMN i dont remember) with the time Take2 buy the little studio with the rights of GTa and made it Rockstar San Diego
Halo the best shooter franchise for consoles, originally owned by Bungie, now Bungie have only the rights of maintenance the last game Halo Reach, Microsoft Studios is now producing a new Halo dev by 332 Studios
If Bethesda see this game against his interest (or even Interplay) they will wipe this, no matter if the law is with us, this game can still in the law, and as a dark game but it only retrase the date of aniquilation
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Reiniat, i bet ... ewww i dunno.
i think interplay can make good game, they have chance. i believe in interplay.
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lol theres no closed beta can you proof it? i dont think so
Hahaha I don't have to prove it, why don't you look for yourself? Google doesn't hurt ;)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+online+beta
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Hahaha I don't have to prove it, why don't you look for yourself? Google doesn't hurt ;)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+online+beta
i already enter there i put 3 emails for the beta
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Reiniat, i bet ... ewww i dunno.
i think interplay can make good game, they have chance. i believe in interplay.
You mean that you believe in the creators of FO1 and FO2? because then you dont believe in Interplay,
if you really believe in Interplay, maybe your right and maybe youre wrong, nobody knows
Hahaha I don't have to prove it, why don't you look for yourself? Google doesn't hurt ;)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+online+beta
yes i put 10 emails there..... 10 months ago, its very old and still working it sounds suspicious for me
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Keep living the Fallout Online dream. (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58692) (http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/images/smiles/salute.gif)
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Keep living the Fallout Online dream. (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58692) (http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/images/smiles/salute.gif)
Seems almost like interplay is cursed.
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Keep living the Fallout Online dream. (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58692) (http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/images/smiles/salute.gif)
I was expecting for something like this, now i can say "i told you to all", but no.
1min of silence and not intense murdering for Interplay...........
PD: Whats wrong with you Surf??? did you forget that THIS is Fallout Online????, we dont need Interplay V13 f we have THIS
PD2: People that are in the border of the abyss always fight brave....before of fall, there is always a posibility, however it is to low to keep it in count
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I think that even if Bethesda won, it would continue developing Fallout Online, so it is going to come out either way.
And if Interplay went down, I hope Bethesda finishes the game anyway.
Also I think it would be better for Bethesda/Obsidian to develop this. Since most of the old Interplay crew which created Fallout 1/2 is now in Obsidian.
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Well, if they'll finish up as bankrupt eventually, I hope that they'll publish the job they did so far. This could be extremely useful for the community. But I still hope that they'll finish up this project successfully.
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Well, if they'll finish up as bankrupt eventually, I hope that they'll publish the job they did so far. This could be extremely useful for the community. But I still hope that they'll finish up this project successfully.
It's very naive to think that a company will release all the assets and work they created before, just for free.
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Well, consider it my dreaming in case if everything will go wrong :) But, if they will make the bankruptcy process, which would lead to the disposal of all rights on Fallout to the Bethesda anyway, then why not to make a gift to the fans? Of course, it's very naive... but who knows what it's all end up with?
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One can dream, heh. ;)
Point is, it costs money to produce art assets, use the engine, pay the developers etc. There is no way they just give away this work for free.
If best, it will rot on some lonely HD till someone eventually buys the license again or Bethesda gets it.
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Something is always better than nothing. Even those few arts from the "Armageddon Rag" newsletter was pretty useful, so if they will give out anything better - it would be a great gift. I also agree with your point, that it's a matter of time, when someone will buy a co-licence from Interplay and let them finish the game.
Here's what I've found on the Interplay forums, and I consider it as VERY interesting info. It's an analysis made by some guy, related to the situation in the Interplay. In general, he's talking about that the situation in the company isn't that bad as everyone think. Anyway, here's the message itself:
Sigh.. one guy who has no idea how to read financial documents makes an uninformed post at nma and it spreads like wifdfire. Allow me to shed some light.
Go get the 10-K in the previous link. Page F-3,
Trade receivables, 199,000
Other receivables 21,000
Deferred income 541,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_income
so thats 762,000 in future money.
now factor in that about 9 years back interplay had over 120 Million in debt and now they ony have 2.8 million. They paid this down by selling off Hunter the recokning for 15 million, Galleon, shiney entertainment and the matrix property, and most of fallout.
so while Interplay keeps little cash on hand they do have incomming revenue.
now a company like interplay is going to have losses or expenses, that happens when your making Fallout Online.
2nd, The 10-K is from December 31, 2010. Since then they have released Prehistoric for the ipod,
Death and the Fly for PC, MDK-2 for the nintendo Wii and have several games in development.
Games that are bringing in needed revenue and income w/ more releases on the way.
They license developers to make the games and they take a cut. This is a low risk , low capital way of doing things and given they are not rolling in money its a smart way to do it.
3rd, They will win the Battle Chess lawsuit. For those that do not know a company called Topware tried to make a came called Battle vs Chess. where the vs was simply 2 crossed swords. Sorry,, thats a no go. Interplay won the injunction and they will win the case hands down. Easy money in the bank.
4th. Funding.. Interactive Game Group has put up 15 Million to fund Fallout Online and Masthead Studios has put up 20 Million dollars. Thats 35 MILLION dollars guys. Say it with me.. THIRTY.... FIVE.. MILLION DOLLARS. THIRTY FIVE MILLION GREEN BACKS.
If you read SEC statements often (like i do) you will then realize that these statements of "we may not be able to do this.. or that" are just legal blanket statements. Of course they might fail and of course they are not rolling in money but after the disaster that Brian Fargo left interplay in (even after Herve funded them via Titus Interactive) they are doing much much better (120 Million in debt vs 2.8 Million)
so what you have here is a person who has no idea how to read a SEC statement, who has not read the prior statements and who is just assuming that interplay is at the verge of death but the opposite is true.
they are comming out of a coma and starting to make progress.
All it takes is one man to write a hack job at nma and presto.. viral.. did the gamestop teenage 'reporters' look into the article? I bet not.. nope.. they just steal the article just like the other web sites do.
Now if we could only get an update on whats going on w/ Descent for the Wii????
That gives some more hope for the successful ending of the story for those, who are waiting for this game.
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Hey guys i wanted to know, someone knows how's going to Interplay for Project V13, also know as Fallout Online (Dont worry, it's not FOnline).
Any bit of info would be appreciated.
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u can read FAQ on official page, or u can find stuff on web... all stuff on web - nasty fakes.
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all stuff on web - nasty fakes.
That's why i asked here ;D
I'm going to subscribe today to the newsletter and the beta today... atleast i hope.
Should i use also my second email account? For the beta, i mean.
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That's why i asked here ;D
I'm going to subscribe today to the newsletter and the beta today... atleast i hope.
Should i use also my second email account? For the beta, i mean.
u can be bethesda spy :D anyway - u ll dont be dissapointed if u subscribe :D
i ll loose trust in people if smbd post here stuff from theyr mails or etc. ;)
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I subscribed to them 2 year's ago.All I recvied was an Email about some shit story.Never heard from them since.
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click (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/75/Soldier_cloakedspy01.wav) ;D
If you want some fresh and interesting info, make sure to check this topic - http://interplay.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18888
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click (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/7/75/Soldier_cloakedspy01.wav) ;D
Lol. Well, my hope is that Interplay buys Fallout back. It's our ONLY hope to see a decent Fallout 4. Everything but Bethesda, Their Fallout 3 made me cry.
After all, if my mind doesnt fail to me, Interplay made Wasteland, that is, lets say, fallout 0. Not jokin' mons.
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Lol. Well, my hope is that Interplay buys Fallout back.
This would be actually even worse than it is right now. Thank god it will never happen and Interplays eventually ceases to exist.
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Why? Worse than Bethesda...Let me rember you that they made Oblivion... The only thing that saved Oblivion (and Fallout 3) was user-made contenent, like this (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8747).
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Interplays CEO is Herve Caen. He is responsible for so many failures (especially monetary ones) in the history of Interplay and is yet at the helm of said company. Almost everyone from the original Fallout team or Black Isle division left the sinking boat long ago. They haven't even released anything worthwhile or to keep money flowing for years, except a port of MDK2 to the Wii. Todays Interplay has nothing to do anymore with the Interplay that once was.
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Damn. You're right... But atleast i can dream of a better future for Fallout... Damn. I cannot think nothing better than being sold on eBay to some random guy that will just keep the trademark... :'(
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Interplays CEO is Herve Caen. He is responsible for so many failures (especially monetary ones) in the history of Interplay
Did you know, that before Herve came to the company their debt was around 120 mln. dollars? And now it is only 2,8 mln. He has financed the Interplay by the funds of his own company (Titus Interactive).
if my mind doesnt fail to me, Interplay made Wasteland, that is, lets say, fallout 0.
That's correct. Interplay made this game and it was published by Electronic Arts. Though it was... ehh... in 1988, so even the union like that was possible back then. I peronally don't loose a hope that they will still be able to develop and launch the Fallout Online, at least because it would be (probably) a new canon source of the universe (I don't count F3/NV as canon).
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(I don't count F3/NV as canon).
I dony count Fallout 3 too, but atleast something from NV could be really canonic. Like Cesare's legion, that was going to appear in Fallout 3 (aka Van Buren), and the fact of NCR expansion (as said in F2). We can alwais dream... and you must admit that Wasteland is still a good game. ;D
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They simply took the Van Buuren design documents and made a game based on them. If you have such a good team (Obsidian) + semi-canonic source, then it's hard to make a bad game. Honestly, NV is good game (where it fits canon), but I don't like any of the DLC's we have so far. Don't know about of the upcoming Old World Blues (what we know atm sounds promising) and Lonesome Road, so we shall see what they will come out with.
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Dead Money where for non combat caracters and Honest Hearts was for farmeble xp( if you hav let's say 7 stealth boys)
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They simply took the Van Buuren design documents and made a game based on them. If you have such a good team (Obsidian) + semi-canonic source, then it's hard to make a bad game. Honestly, NV is good game (where it fits canon), but I don't like any of the DLC's we have so far. Don't know about of the upcoming Old World Blues (what we know atm sounds promising) and Lonesome Road, so we shall see what they will come out with.
Old World Blues is going to be a sort of puzzle-based DLC, while i dont know nothing for Lonesome Road.
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Honestly, NV is good game
I just let it rot after tasting it's terrible gameplay. Sorry, whatever fantastic storyline it might offer, I'm already tired of bioware crap to endure this once more, and play worthless game just to see it's story.
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This thing is like Duke Nukem Forever. before "OMFG is gonna be awesome" then after you played it and pay for it "man this game suuuucked mutant ballz" . Coz game's that take that much to make usually suck in the end.No offense but i know a few game's that ended like that and this one is bound to.
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What has the game to do with BioWare, if anything? ::)
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Besides the BioWare part... I agree with Johnnybravo, the crappiness of the engine and the gameplay style not resembling original Fallouts at all make this game worth much less than it could be, still I finished it just for the story.
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What has the game to do with BioWare, if anything? ::)
I'm coparing NV to bioware games - they all seem to just care about story, and gameplay is almost always weak. Sorry if not that obvious.
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lol. BioWares biggest failures in their games, apart of mediocre gameplay, are their stories. It's all about wether you're being able to buttfuck companion #29029 or romance lifelessshell #24240 during the course of the game. All BioWare games follow the same premise, you are nobody XY, you're granted acess to ancient secret order #2420492 and later the country/continent/world/galaxy/universe faces some ancient and million years old evil only you can stop if you're collecting alliances throughout the bland and lifeless game world. How is this comparable to New Vegas? I agree that the engine is not the strongest and I loath the FPS mechanics - but comparing it to crappy BioWare games is a whole new level of insult the game doesn't deserve.
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lol. BioWares biggest failures in their games, apart of mediocre gameplay, are their stories. It's all about wether you're being able to buttfuck companion #29029 or romance lifelessshell #24240 during the course of the game. All BioWare games follow the same premise, you are nobody XY, you're granted acess to ancient secret order #2420492 and later the country/continent/world/galaxy/universe faces some ancient and million years old evil only you can stop if you're collecting alliances throughout the bland and lifeless game world. How is this comparable to New Vegas? I agree that the engine is not the strongest and I loath the FPS mechanics - but comparing it to crappy BioWare games is a whole new level of insult the game doesn't deserve.
Surf, you right right. There isnt romance in NV ;D
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Huh, no I'm just saying it uses terribad F3 gameplay, and I find it meh to play games for their stories :d
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BioWares biggest failures in their games, apart of mediocre gameplay, are their stories
KOTOR have one of the best stories ever (it do me think at Planescape : the evil behind the veil are you! Can you stop what you have done?)
But me and you Surf are gone totally off topic , some edit to this topic would be a good thing to do...
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KOTOR have one of the best stories ever (it do me think at Planescape : the evil behind the veil are you! Can you stop what you have done?)
But me and you Surf are gone totally off topic , some edit to this topic would be a good thing to do...
Well, i didnt tought 'bout KOTOR. Now i remember one of the best games ever. And also a terrible failure, a crippled game called KOTOR II: TSL. With the disbandin' of Team Gizka (working on the RP) the game will remain crippled forever. Too bad.