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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => General Game Discussion => Topic started by: Molious on May 15, 2011, 01:09:23 am
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This game is sick, i love original fallout 2, but this mod is so... i dont know which way to put it is just sick, people killing other people in towns, places guarded by "guards" that do nothing, and they just shot you for fun, there is no place for new players i tried it belive me i tried to do everything but, ive started to roll this almost 10 times and in different towns because i thought only some are that way "bugged?" and everytime the same scenario i get a shot in front of guards in the same second i enter the city, when i am comming back because ive been gathering some flints just to catch 100 bucks to buy anything and they keep killing me and then laughing, i ask where is any fun in this?? Or am i supposed to gather resources 100 times just to let them take those 50 caps from me which means nothing to them because towns are the most dangerous places, this is a mistake i only got myself a headache trying to go thru this and i was so full of hope when i thought of an idea of playing fallout with some friends. I am waiting on some comments because i dont know what do you think about this.
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its awesome when ure in the winner side
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just keep playing. The beginning is hard for everyone. After some hours you will survive, and even with dying you wouln't lose everything. You cannot say FOnline is sick because people are killing you or you have bad luck.
Edit: Stay In Fallout1Arena, Mostly Junktown and Hub. There you can Level up good and There aren't so much Asses
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Wasteland is a harsh place to live in.
If this game would have safe places to live in there would be no excitement ::)
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my comment for you is to live in Vault city. Its the only real safe town inside with helpful players living in it. I see many new players starting to live in there, and i didint hear any complains by them. Ncr/Hub were always known for not too friendly actions in towns :)
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But this is obviously abusing these are suposed to be safe places, towns with guards and they just sit in front of them when guards are 20 meters away and camp you just when you enter the town even before you get your game loaded to react, make this a 10 second immunity when you enter the town or something i dont know, this is unplayable,i cant force myself to go to the desert for god knows how many times and when i come to the city happy to sell things and finaly get my first caps i get banged.
Btw i cant get inside vault city because i need to have caps and the guy in outer city dont have any caps, so i am grounded with this idea.
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Determination is key in this game. So is: Trial and error, social skills, and most importantly, Smarts.
You must be determined to get anywhere in this game.
Trial and error is how you learn, unless your smart enough to figure out how the game works real quick.
Social skills so you can make friends to survive and thrive in the wasteland.
Most imporantly.... smarts. Don't trust anyone, figure out who is and is not trustable, learn the personalities and for god's sake don't invite anyone to your tent!!! On purpose or on accident!
and these towns with gaurds, you have obviously been going into "PLAYER-RUN FACTIONS" That are in control of the town, and the gaurds are their militia. (I prefer just calling them gang-thugs cus that's how they work....) The players in control of the town are in control of the "militia" so they can pretty much do whatever they want until someone else comes in and stomps their asses in, but then that gang is in control, so the cycle goes on.
All the towns to the south past New Reno are GAURDS BY NPCS, this means "NO ONE" can violently attack you without being shot by the gaurds, this however does not mean you are totally safe because alot of people are suicidal killers and will burst you to death in the middle of town. .... Stay away from them.
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For one time I agree with vedaras that places like Vault City or other uncrowded ones are really better to achieve the "FO2" feeling. Shady Sands is definitevly a place where the trolls dwell and you don't want to visit that town.
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I think there is something the author is not telling, because if the guards shot you, then you did something wrong, like hit a protected player or try to steal from an NPC. Unless you are Vilified, then there is no way that the guards are shooting you the second you walk in the town. And if you are Vilfied, you did something bad to make you become that.
If other people did not die after attacking you, then you became unprotected from either thievery or unintentional blocking. Dying will make you become protected again.
If you don't want to go all the way north to Vault City, then Junktown might be a good choice as there aren't usually as many people there, especially at night, since players with factions aren't allowed in there at night.
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But this is obviously abusing these are suposed to be safe places, towns with guards and they just sit in front of them when guards are 20 meters away and camp you just when you enter the town even before you get your game loaded to react, make this a 10 second immunity when you enter the town or something i dont know, this is unplayable,i cant force myself to go to the desert for god knows how many times and when i come to the city happy to sell things and finaly get my first caps i get banged.
Btw i cant get inside vault city because i need to have caps and the guy in outer city dont have any caps, so i am grounded with this idea.
the person who is the first to shoot, is the person most likley to live, keep this in mind
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my comment for you is to live in Vault city. Its the only real safe town inside with helpful players living in it. I see many new players starting to live in there, and i didint hear any complains by them. Ncr/Hub were always known for not too friendly actions in towns :)
safe places (1-10)
New Reno ~ 1 (Much Death)
Vault City ~ 9 (Some Thief's)
San Francisco ~ 5 (Hard Area)
Ncr ~ 4 (Ncr)
Hub ~ 7 (Some Thief's (less than last month's))
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i read it and press again "3 new posts..."
i read them again and press again "a new post..."
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Ok ive been to gecko when they instantly shot me, this abvoiosuly was the gang you were talking about then i went to vault city and it was peacefull but there are no traders with ammo or caps, not even bank or anything and i dont have the pass to get anywhere further, then they blow me up in shady sands when i was happy standing at the merchant, that guy obviouslt was suecider, then i was attacked on the road, shit happens he blew my head off, but the moment when i surrendered is when i went to scout to broken hills to see how its holding up, i saw lots of guards, good merchant, 0 crowd and i was happy, so i went into wastland gathered eq worth 200 caps and wanted to come back but i got one shoted by a guy before my game loaded and he just came to me took everything and smiled. Thats how it was.
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Ok ive been to gecko when they instantly shot me, this abvoiosuly was the gang you were talking about then i went to vault city and it was peacefull but there are no traders with ammo or caps, not even bank or anything and i dont have the pass to get anywhere further, then they blow me up in shady sands when i was happy standing at the merchant, that guy obviouslt was suecider, then i was attacked on the road, shit happens he blew my head off, but the moment when i surrendered is when i went to scout to broken hills to see how its holding up, i saw lots of guards, good merchant, 0 crowd and i was happy, so i went into wastland gathered eq worth 200 caps and wanted to come back but i got one shoted by a guy before my game loaded and he just came to me took everything and smiled. Thats how it was.
In this game, this scenario(s) is totally believeable ;D.
Go to VC, Junktown, Hub for starter shit. level up, etc. try to make a few friends, keep in close contact using something like... idk, skype, Mirc, mumble. Get a tent so you can store your shit too, that's first and foremost. then just kinda explore, level up some more, do what you want, get equipment, kill loot-mobs, and when you're set start up with pvp. If you're good at it this won't take but two or three days of no-lifing determined play.
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Hub is the best place to be anyway u get pked every once in a blue moon and they have some good stuff in Hub and bank always has caps
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You're doing it wrong. First you need a tent, if you cant get caps to buy hides then you'l need to kill some brahmin. Two ways to do this, either you put in in turn based and kite them. hit them once move away and they dont have the ap to walk and attack you.
Or
Put it in realtime and wander around vault city until you find a vc patrol vs ghouls or something. run in circles until vc kill all the enemy and LET THEM LOOT once they are done go and pick over the scraps chances are you can get a gun or two this way. Now use gun to hunt brahmin.
Hiding your brahmi hides in town is often safer than carrying them with you.
Once you have a tent you have another choice:
go kill some mantis geckos or whatever repeating the run in circles thing whenever you need gear.
Or instead of this rather nubish tactic you can craft some guns, this is definately the way to go if you arent a small gunner.
So now you have a few levels and a decent gun, go find a vs encounter but this time one without the friendly troopers in it, stay at the back and pick off anyone who comes towards you whilst trying to thin out the forces so that the survivors are nearly dead. Kill them take all the gear and bobs your uncle.
You are now on the road to being a wasteland badass.
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i like boneyard, chip weapon and armor in shop, alot junk in area, easy exp by encouters like regulators vs centaurs in turn based. and ! - friendly npc and good place for start and become rich / lvl 21 killar / roleplayer or etc.
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Welcome to HELL. This game has soo much potential ruined by the times you will without a doubt spend walking back from the spawn point and attempting to rebuild all that you just lost. Also be aware that sometime (not soon but not too long) there will be a wipe and Poof everything will be back to square one. Some tips.
1. Don't carry anything in a 'guarded' down that you're not willing to have stolen or taken from you. (unguarded towns shouldn't even been seen by you for LEVELS.)
2. Tent like Mic and others said, most important thing you can get, ONLY safe place in game.
3. Trust NO ONE you encounter in the wastes 'random encounters' It's a sad reality at this point but you're more likely to lose what you got than to make a new friend. Does that mean shoot everyone? NO, but running is always an option. (even at higher lvls)
4. Lastly of the big non-common sense area, Take everything around you with a grain of salt. If someone is offering you something cool in Old Town, or in the wastes, well that 'cool' thing is probably a high powered rifle bullet to the head. If you get up the nerve to not be an ass in game and try and help people, tip 1 applies. Don't take anything with you, you're not willing to lose.
So welcome to the game of work hard to hide everything cool you got, walk around with trash gear, and dodging lulzers. Best of Luck.
P.S. If you end up getting your teeth kicked in and want a hand, pm me on here, I got some stuff I can give ya to help out.
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Welcome to TROLOL Online. Of course the great many trolls who kill you for stupid reasons will try to justify their actions with "wasteland is harsh". In all honesty, next era things will change drastically and hopefully the LULZY folks will do other things instead of fuck with noobs.
1. Make a miner dude/money guy. Focus on outdoorsman skill as this will save your bacon MANY times. Go to city tiles near boneyard. Go to a city tile and enter it to find junk and hope it has no bad people. Then use the junk to make BBs. Camp the vendor and save your caps to buy brahmin hides(hope you don't run into some lulzy folks who trick you or kill you while travelling).
2. Use science skill on 10 hides at a place you like and it will make a tent only you can see with a place to stash stuff. Then go rinse and repeat junk/bbs/camp vendor in boneyard till you have desired caps.
3. Then actually make combat or fun alt and have money to get him stuff to go kill molerats.
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But this is obviously abusing these are suposed to be safe places, towns with guards and they just sit in front of them when guards are 20 meters away and camp you just when you enter the town even before you get your game loaded to react, make this a 10 second immunity when you enter the town or something i dont know, this is unplayable,i cant force myself to go to the desert for god knows how many times and when i come to the city happy to sell things and finaly get my first caps i get banged.
Btw i cant get inside vault city because i need to have caps and the guy in outer city dont have any caps, so i am grounded with this idea.
you can stay in courtyard, or you can become vault city citizen which is free if you do things right.
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You are too weak for live on wasteland. Get lost.
agreed. he says that the game is unplayeble. yet i play it and many more do... and the cherry on top most of people have fun. sick people that is. in the head. wohha... i saw a blue pony.i will go and eat its heart.
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You have to learn the difference between troubled towns (Gecko, Klamanth, Redding, etc.) and actual towns with guards, like VC and NCR. The populations vary, and there is little to protect you in any town except the NPC guarded ones. VC is indeed nice, it has some nice shops as well as a guarded bank requiring membership (though banks are still FUBAR aren't they?).
Frisco is a great place, imho, and even at low levels, I would reside around the area, though it was dangerous due to the strong encounters there. The amount of shops there, however, is a great plus, and I just generally loved the area and the few quests. Another positive is the train there, which takes you to Adytum, which is another guarded area that sees few players but has several locations with not-too-difficult encounters.
Starting solo is difficult. You have a lack of information, resources, and have to generally face everything without knowing anything, including other players. "Is he gonna shoot me?" Assume yes, though this is paranoid to hell, it serves well as enough people shoot noobs for the lols. Don't carry worthwhile stuff into towns, or rather, don't idle with them. Get a tent soon as possible (which itself is a feat, as getting 10 hides as a low lvl can be quite hard) though asking in nice towns can often get someone to help or just give them to you. Do not rely on this though. Never rely on generosity. Begging just makes me not wanna help you at all, though I've often ran off and gotten hides for noobs... well, just because. I had the hp and means, they did not. Gathering ten hides is immeasurably easier for me than them and its a bit of a linchpin to enjoying the game and starting a hoard.
Find a nice town that fits you, hopefully with people you can get along with, make a tent, and try to do something you enjoy. Avoid the 'free' (Towncontrol) towns because militia is just a tool gangs use like hitmen.
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the person who is the first to shoot, is the person most likley to live, keep this in mind
tell that to my victims, i became a pk because most of the guys that i randomly found shot me at sight, fortunately im enough stronger and i was mostly in TB, so i begun to kill they, and i take pleasure.
In my first time i always talk nicely with everybody i found, im still doing it if people dont shot me first and there is a conversation motive.
Manero is right, if you can handle the postapocaliptyc America your fate is get lost. not troll the forum
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..... this guy is not wanted i say if you cant deal with dieing and rage every time you die and dont even try to ask other players why am i dieing everytime i go into a town which some who has played more then 1 week will say " you are going into player owed towns"
dude if you really need help ask me i dont like this rage that this game is too hard we where all alone at one time and we made are way threw it and played on pm me or post here if you really need help that bad i can teach you some things as long as you dont rage if you die. ..... i dont like rageing people very annoying.
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its a hard game but i like the punishingness of the game its not like in wow where you grind quests in fallout you grind molertas but its not that easy i always encounter c88