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The 2238 was a good server. But now, its boring and see many bugs...
I like Turned-Based Fight. But i can't fighting because some players use "merc bug". So when i arrived to a battlefield my client is frozing and the enemy mercs kill me. So Game 3 days lost 12 ba, 12 lsw, 12 hk90c, 12 rocket launcer, 5000 223fmj, 200 rocket, 4000 10mm ammo, and 180 super stim. I asked why? Because some guys use this "bug". The devs dont do anything.
Okay, dont play in TB. I leading a hungarian clan in this server. We was in RDA and North Bandits. We capturing all cities... But the TC is boring, i dont like it. So, what can i do?
My friends stopped the game, and they go to the requiem server. I cant speak in russian. So? The 2238 is died. My friends dont playing, because this "BUG" have.
Sonik63 and there friends... I kill in tb, and u go back with 15 merc. I go to encounter, and i die... Nice game.
I stop this shit....
Bye:
Charma
The hungarians leader
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yea agree, gameplay is toataly fucked
probably there will be no wipe in next month so if you want to play fonline and you really like turnbase try it at requiem server, its more intresting - working doctor, firstaid, players are easy to find and every gang _need_ to farm some stuff so there is a lot of fights on encouters ;) and you dont need to speak russian. everything is english language, maybe exept some quests
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Yes, kinda frustrating situation on 2238, especially for those who like TB.
I stopped to play untill wipe at least.
But i have an option to go to TLA, which is now have NOPVP zones in some towns and NOLEVELCUP.
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The devs dont do anything.
I am sorry that we don't have any secret magic that fixes everything in seconds.
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Lexx!!!
Not second ....
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=11319.msg94578#msg94578
I writed it in NOVEMBER 26.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=11997.msg98963#msg98963
Its writed in December 18.
So lexxx... U have enough time. I waited, but its enoughh...
Now 2011 march 31.
???
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Ah, the end of season whine fest.
Then we will wipe, lots of updates that have taken months to do, happy players for a week, then back to whining we don't do anything :)
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Pretty big losses, wouldn't want to moralize but it's not smart to haul so much stuff in one go. Hell, could hand out dozen of protips right away, but let's not.
Here's something anyway: you think your 3 days of lost work in the game is something compared to the years of work devs put in this game? And because of 3 days of lost "work" you plan abandoning the ship and tell the designers of this free entertainment aren't somehow proper people.
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So lexxx... U have enough time. I waited, but its enoughh...
If we couldn't fix it yet, we just couldn't fix it yet. No matter how much time has passed. Hell, maybe it's an engine problem, then we can't fix it anyway.
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i know you wokring hard on big update, but not everyone knows that. maybe development tracker isnt that bad idea ?
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i know you wokring hard on big update, but not everyone knows that. maybe development tracker isnt that bad idea ?
Isn't their word enough?
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i know you wokring hard on big update, but not everyone knows that. maybe development tracker isnt that bad idea ?
But i want a big surprise it will keep us occupied finding out what new wonders the devs have brought apart from the more well known stuff like domination mode. This way we have no reason to complain straight away if we dont like it because it needs to be thoroughly tested first 8)
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Actually it's not only "merc bug" as you refered. It happens commonly. I lost tons of various low and high tier stuff, even rare items like NCR Ranger Combat Armor because of this bug, but I still hope it's gonna be fixed as soon as possible.
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well i'm playing on linux ubuntu 10.10, and i never encountered this bug you are talking about, so maybe its your windows version related not game? Try compatibility mode or something with other os version.
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It will be fixed upon the wipe, when the new follower system is in place. Getting upset over losing things to a bug is not the correct mindset to come into a Beta. There will be bugs and you will get unfairly screwed over on occasion and we don't have the capacity to make new things and fix all the bugs in a matter of hours. There is no way round this.
A development tracker is not something that would mean an awful lot for us anyway. We are not a professional studio, so it depends greatly on how much free time any individual has.
If I am away (when I moved house for example) then little will happen with crafting, because that is one of the little areas I have. If Lexx goes and I need new maps or a quest as part of the new crafting then I must wait for him. If I need scripting and Atom is not there then I wait for him. The same is true for all of the core team in our own ways.
Gradually over time we will have our free time and all the little jobs get filled in and we have a finished thing, we get enough together and we have an update. If enough of these need a wipe to be tested properly, we have a wipe.
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NO problem.
Only 1 problem have. If the gameplay fucked, the players go to other server, and the 2238 is die. Now dying..
I remember, when 50 players play in NCR bozaar. And now? 4 inactive, 1 beginner (who will stop the game after 2 days ), and 2 thief. Nice... The 2238 is dying. Now must the refresh, because the 2238 is going to the soup.
The problems are terrible. Devs, please do something...
Ok tested the clint frozing:
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
I dont like Linux.
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dont make non pvp zones please :)
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Bye
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Okay, i will back after Wipe.
But if i like the other server, i think i will play in other server...
Good luck Devs, i promoting u :)
It will be fixed upon the wipe, when the new follower system is in place. Getting upset over losing things to a bug is not the correct mindset to come into a Beta. There will be bugs and you will get unfairly screwed over on occasion and we don't have the capacity to make new things and fix all the bugs in a matter of hours. There is no way round this.
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NO problem.
Only 1 problem have. If the gameplay fucked, the players go to other server, and the 2238 is die. Now dying..
I remember, when 50 players play in NCR bozaar. And now? 4 inactive, 1 beginner (who will stop the game after 2 days ), and 2 thief. Nice... The 2238 is dying. Now must the refresh, because the 2238 is going to the soup.
The problems are terrible. Devs, please do something...
Wipe happens when we are ready, as has been said many times. Player numbers are served better in the long run by improving the game properly.
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Additionally to that, the game is "dying" already since august 2009. People said, it will take 2 weeks until it's dead. :p
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That's sorta long for dying. Almost 2 years... but you can't beat MS-DOS or IE6 when it comes to dying.
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The 2238 was a good server. But now, its boring and see many bugs...
I like Turned-Based Fight. But i can't fighting because some players use "merc bug". So when i arrived to a battlefield my client is frozing and the enemy mercs kill me. So Game 3 days lost 12 ba, 12 lsw, 12 hk90c, 12 rocket launcer, 5000 223fmj, 200 rocket, 4000 10mm ammo, and 180 super stim. I asked why? Because some guys use this "bug". The devs dont do anything.
Okay, dont play in TB. I leading a hungarian clan in this server. We was in RDA and North Bandits. We capturing all cities... But the TC is boring, i dont like it. So, what can i do?
My friends stopped the game, and they go to the requiem server. I cant speak in russian. So? The 2238 is died. My friends dont playing, because this "BUG" have.
Sonik63 and there friends... I kill in tb, and u go back with 15 merc. I go to encounter, and i die... Nice game.
I stop this shit....
Bye:
Charma
The hungarians leader
Make your own server and go playing RP if you can't play normal... ::) 8)
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So maybe one simple solution will be - stop selling all mercs. I now, it is unfair to people with high charisma, but well - guys with alot of merc are just really, really fucking annoyng. Actually ist is kind of expolit - everthing what you have to do is high CHarisma, then just need to buy some cheap mercs - let say four knifes type merc and hide. And after that all players are just like some chrismas trees. An idea for build, ha ? I hate cheaters, and that kind of build smells exactly like dirty, tricky cheat.
Jeeees guys that game is not for real. :) Common guys, what say you ? Commoooon. :P
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I remember, when 50 players play in NCR bozaar. And now? 4 inactive, 1 beginner (who will stop the game after 2 days )
Ok tested the clint frozing:
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
I dont like Linux.
this is because people understood that ncr sucks hard, no hq material mines, far from other location, its a good thing that people now lives in towns like Vault city, modoc, new reno redding i hope it will stay same after wipe.
Well i like to see things work in os, instead of whining about it how it doesnt ^^
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And for more RP, non agressive types of players - place like Hub. Soft peoples come to South, it is a nice place to live. :)
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And for more RP, non agressive types of players - place like Hub. Soft peoples come to South, it is a nice place to live. :)
sorry bro, but hub is even worse that ncr in terms of position, people grow up the noob outfit, they need high quality materials, they need town control, its all there far in the north ^^ But hub has one strong argument to live in - hinkley, need to admit it is promising stuff ^^
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The problems are terrible. Devs, please do something...
I bet Charma is pretty young person...
2238 is not dying. It is not so intersting to play ATM, but this will change after wipe update.
So take a break. Devs are working anyway on that.
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Btw, i hope this is not one of "MSH´s" goodbyes and we will not see you tomorow as you whining about something else. Stay here and testing or just leave.
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I play 3 wipes ago. So i think i dont young player.
Im the all hungarians leader. When i start playing in 2238 we have 15-20 hungarian players. And now? Now we play 5... Its not normally... We are in RDA... This wipe we starting TC in RDA name... Repairking? Xel naga? Min G? Legends... And now? Merc bug...
I remember, when we go TB pking with vagon. The server have 350+ players (not dual logging, not trial loging, not 25125451735 logging) Not was be fast relog. And now? When the enemy die in TC fast relog and go kill. When die the second charachter fast relog the third charachter and 4. and 5. And win... Maaan.. It sucks... I dont like Tc, because the all is cheating.
And now the TB... I will never be anti PK. I like kill other 21lvls. But i cant!!!! Ehat the fuck? Everybody cheating?
Doctor eex u know me. Many people know me.
Charma
Charmageddon
CharMaster
Charismatic
Charisma
CharMAX
Im PK specialist, but i never be use bug, and i dont like cheats...
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Okay Hololaisma!
I testing... I like fallout. But if i cant play, i can not testing. I write some remark. But the devs dont care it. hm....
What can i do? Holo, im dont crying. Only write, why i stopped...
Btw, i hope this is not one of "MSH´s" goodbyes and we will not see you tomorow as you whining about something else. Stay here and testing or just leave.
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NO problem.
Only 1 problem have. If the gameplay fucked, the players go to other server, and the 2238 is die. Now dying..
I remember, when 50 players play in NCR bozaar. And now? 4 inactive, 1 beginner (who will stop the game after 2 days ), and 2 thief. Nice... The 2238 is dying. Now must the refresh, because the 2238 is going to the soup.
The problems are terrible. Devs, please do something...
Ok tested the clint frozing:
Windows XP
Windows Vista
Windows 7
I dont like Linux.
Merc bug works on Linux too. Tested with:
Ubuntu 10.10, Debian 6.0 (both running Linux 2.6.32)
Wine 1.3.14
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Merc bug works on Linux too. Tested with:
Ubuntu 10.10, Debian 6.0 (both running Linux 2.6.32)
Wine 1.3.14
maybe it has something with 32/64 bit system then, because i have never suffered that bug for sure (im on 64) :/
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FOnline is a 32bit app. So are stable releases of Wine.
Running x64 systems too.
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Okay Hololaisma!
I testing... I like fallout. But if i cant play, i can not testing. I write some remark. But the devs dont care it. hm....
What can i do? Holo, im dont crying. Only write, why i stopped...
But youre not alone bro ! Everyone must suffer because this idiots which you killed and then they spawn bilion of mercs on you. There is no cure on it, you can just play and testing
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sorry bro, but hub is even worse that ncr in terms of position, people grow up the noob outfit, they need high quality materials, they need town control, its all there far in the north ^^ But hub has one strong argument to live in - hinkley, need to admit it is promising stuff ^^
hq mineral like uranium, no need more - we got some good shops there, so we don't have to craft :),
i'm armorer 3 class and good guide too, so trip to Redding (with old highway number 5 - L.A - Sarcamento- Klamath River) is like walking in to park. (actually is most dengerous place in game ;) )
And fuck no - no town control in Hub!!, if so - South will go to war! grrr, wrrr <pretty scary, ha?> that's right we are scary, yeah, mother.... yyyy
but we are, we are!
:P
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If you want to stop mercs from insta shooting you can remove the option to allow them to automaticly attack, but that won't fix anything, just make merc leaders stay with their mercs all the time.
-Ulrek-
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That will be the case - except for their own 'home' maps
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Somebody said something about games dying? Aliens versus Predator 2 is dying too you know! Their oficial master server was shut down in 2008, but was revived with a patch, that allows you to play it online again. Quake 2 is also slowly dying, it's dying for about 12 years now I think, but the players are even more pro then in most new games. Same goes for Counter-strike! It's just silly to call a game dying, if there's still many players around (as this is a closed beta, yes, we have quite many players for a free indie project). I would say this game will still be "dying" even if Bethesda/Interplay released their fallout online. Debuting about the games near death is just as lame as talking about wipe...
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this is because people understood that ncr sucks hard, no hq material mines, far from other location, its a good thing that people now lives in towns like Vault city, modoc, new reno redding i hope it will stay same after wipe.
Well i like to see things work in os, instead of whining about it how it doesnt ^^
wtf are u talking about vederas.... first of all i love ncr, allways did.... and ncr was allways better then VC at least in my books... second of all u got broken hils 1 minute away with taxi alt with hq stuff, and if theres too many pk's then u got redding 4 min away from ncr....... and ncr is a great place for noobs... trading safe grounds eazy leveling by new reno, a protected mine and alot of traders which help alot on the beggining...
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The 2238 dying, not the Fonline.
See the other servers... hm...
Somebody said something about games dying? Aliens versus Predator 2 is dying too you know! Their oficial master server was shut down in 2008, but was revived with a patch, that allows you to play it online again. Quake 2 is also slowly dying, it's dying for about 12 years now I think, but the players are even more pro then in most new games. Same goes for Counter-strike! It's just silly to call a game dying, if there's still many players around (as this is a closed beta, yes, we have quite many players for a free indie project). I would say this game will still be "dying" even if Bethesda/Interplay released their fallout online. Debuting about the games near death is just as lame as talking about wipe...
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Yeah and people yell since the very first day that 2238 will be dead after two weeks.
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wtf are u talking about vederas.... first of all i love ncr, allways did.... and ncr was allways better then VC at least in my books... second of all u got broken hils 1 minute away with taxi alt with hq stuff, and if theres too many pk's then u got redding 4 min away from ncr....... and ncr is a great place for noobs... trading safe grounds eazy leveling by new reno, a protected mine and alot of traders which help alot on the beggining...
you love ncr, but that doesnt mean it is better. Lets compare
1 VC 2 NCR
Has normal resource mine nearby 1+ 2+
Has HQ mine nearby 1+ 2-
Has still 1+ 2-
Has fiber/fruit plants nearby 1+ 2-
Traders in town 1 6 (+3 in gecko) 2 4
Traders who trade with 1 ch nearby 1 3 (in gecko) 2 3
Has trees nearby 1+ 2-
Has medical terminal 1+ 2-
Has electronic parts nearby 1+ 2+
Has merc recruit center nearby 1+ (gecko) 2+
Has uranium mine 1- 2-
Has train station 1+ 2+
Do guards protect residents in encounters nearby 1+ 2-
Brahmin pens nearby 1-2 2-2
Distance between towns where you can pvp 1 close 2 far
I dont know what factors could be compared also, but look at that, ncr has nothing that vc doesnt and ncr lacks many of those things that vault city has. Some very long time ago, ncr was very good, it had flint in town, junk barrel in town, tree in town, yeah the town was competitive those days. Now its total shit but people still living in there only because of reason that it was good town some very long time ago. Open your eyes man.
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Traders who trade with 1 ch nearby 1 3 (in gecko) 2 1
Actually NCR has 2 1 CHA traders - one is Mira in Rawhide saloon, the other one is Dusty in Dusty's cantina, however, they always got some kind of shit. Misc vendors I guess don't count too :P
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Actually NCR has 2 1 CHA traders - one is Mira in Rawhide saloon, the other one is Dusty in Dusty's cantina, however, they always got some kind of shit. Misc vendors I guess don't count too :P
well didint even know that still it changes nothing in this comparison as same conclusion applies greatly ^^
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well didint even know that still it changes nothing in this comparison as same conclusion applies greatly ^^
ok u might be right but vc still sucks ass ecspessaly for noobs.
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no man, for noobs it is even better for the reason that vc patrols and vc caravans protect you in random encounters. I always help people in vault city to become citizens, later i meet them and they often go like "you was right, i met a pker and he shot me, but guards killed him, too bad they took loot as well". Isnt it a level 1 noob dream who meets lvl 21 pker in these conditions?
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I dont know i dont waste time in cities anyways your the only one whos so hardcore like your living in 2238.... other people have a real life... but you have a point in your argument. But i stil think that ncr will allways pravaill vc....
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I dont know i dont waste time in cities anyways your the only one whos so hardcore like your living in 2238.... other people have a real life...
Just because that WHEN he is playing the game, he is trying to do it right(in his point of view), doesn't mean he plays it more/less than you and he has/doesn't have real life.
Just because he outsmarted you(he won the argument) you shouldn't start throwing pathetic insults at him.
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Has fiber/fruit plants nearby 1+ 2-
Traders who trade with 1 ch nearby 1 3 (in gecko) 2 3
Has trees nearby 1+ 2-
depends where you look but the nearby mountain squares can net you some fibre and fruit. I mean if you are going to count gecko mine which is what 4-6 squares away (??) for hq materials "near by"
Well if you count the doctor and mitch the iguana stall guy who doesnt even regularly stock iguana! then that is 4 but that's up to you.
How near by are we talking here and do you mean trees that you can harvest? I've spotted plenty of damn trees at 3 squares away from NCR to the west.
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Just because that WHEN he is playing the game, he is trying to do it right(in his point of view), doesn't mean he plays it more/less than you and he has/doesn't have real life.
Just because he outsmarted you(he won the argument) you shouldn't start throwing pathetic insults at him.
No i am not throwing pathetic insults becuase he has one the discusion i am throwing it out for all the kids who role play a little bit too much.... i play the game to have fun... and to win... not to sit at redding pretending to be sherifs from 12 pm to 12 am... and deff. dont sit in vc scraming i am the king of the wastelands... lol dumb fuck
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depends where you look but the nearby mountain squares can net you some fibre and fruit. I mean if you are going to count gecko mine which is what 4-6 squares away (??) for hq materials "near by"
Well if you count the doctor and mitch the iguana stall guy who doesnt even regularly stock iguana! then that is 4 but that's up to you.
How near by are we talking here and do you mean trees that you can harvest? I've spotted plenty of damn trees at 3 squares away from NCR to the west.
Modoc is near vault city and it always has fruit/fiber, while ncr has no such place nearby.
HQ mine is 3 squares away from vc if you will go straight (and 2 squares if you wont count the mine square).
And yeah it is possible to spot trees even in desert but the chance is much less.
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No i am not throwing pathetic insults becuase he has one the discusion i am throwing it out for all the kids who role play a little bit too much.... i play the game to have fun... and to win... not to sit at redding pretending to be sherifs from 12 pm to 12 am... and deff. dont sit in vc scraming i am the king of the wastelands... lol dumb fuck
heavy childhood, you should be forgiven..
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heavy childhood, you should be forgiven..
No just not your generation...son, and yes i cant imagine you kids these days, i dont even know why im arguing .... enyoj living a fake life. while i crush it and still have time to live the real one.
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Another thread dies in flame.