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Title: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 02:00:42 am
Remember the back of the fo2 case?  "Fall in love, get married, and then pimp your spouse for a little extra chum-change.  Hey, its a dark world out there."

In New Reno, there are tons and tons of prostitutes...  There is no point to them except atmosphere right now.  They have different descriptions occassionaly and are obviously for hire, although there is no dialogue/mechanic for it sadly.

Well first things first, what service(s) specifically will they provide?

Well, one dialogue line is "Need someone to warm your tent" or something, you could hire a prostitute to go to your tent, and have your own personal whore :D.  She would direct you to some random pimp about buying her off.  depending on barter the price is changed around a bit.  Then you can buy.  When you buy the prostitute she disappears from her previous placement, another prostitute takes her place within 30 minutes.  And the prostitute you bought is spawned at your tent.  (understand that this is the tent that your character made, no shared tents, you cannot pick)

[with a certain amount of speech you can convince the prostitute to run away with you from her pimp, but there should be a chance the pimp will randomly spawn in your tent, demanding the whore back or he could draw gun and start shooting, if you lose at this either dialogue or combat you lose the whore, or a random encuonter.]

 You can have her whore for you for caps,  you will need to provide her with condoms to do so. (The town must be within 5 tiles, she disappears and comes back later [idk 3 RL hours?] with about 5-1000 caps.  "its been a slow day come on!" "no bitch!  I tol' you get my money! *slaps*"  "Get back out there!" or "Fine, take a break, I'll be back to tell ya your next shift"

There are many other things prostitutes could do i suppose...  you do have your own whore afterall.  :P

And no it will not require any Charisma, they are just there with some special services, much like the homesteader/farmer.  (Which gives me the idea of putting them in bases as well, you can choose tent or base)

Critique is open as long as its constructive, not that i can stop anyone from doing the opposite  ::).
Title: Re: Prostitute hiring.
Post by: Swinglinered on March 15, 2011, 02:04:31 am
Need to implement diseases, plus they would be spies for the Reno Families.

At least they should rob you blind after you leave the tent.

She's Crafty! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tif1C6dwH6o).
Title: Re: Prostitute hiring.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 02:06:49 am
Need to implement diseases, plus they would be spies for the Reno Families.
thats what the condoms are for! -.- you must give condoms for her to work!

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At least they should rob you blind after you leave the tent.

She's Crafty! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tif1C6dwH6o).
Mercenaries, speech skill/charisma, Strength (threaten her), etc.
Title: Re: Prostitute hiring.
Post by: Swinglinered on March 15, 2011, 02:10:58 am
thats what the condoms are for! -.- you must give condoms for her to work!
Mercenaries, speech skill/charisma, Strength (threaten her), etc.


Condoms for the mercs?

Also, she might give them ideas-- and you end up having to retake your own base.
Title: Re: Prostitute hiring.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 02:12:29 am

Condoms for the mercs?
you read the whole topic right?
P.s. i have made a few edits since i created, the ideas just keep coming...
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Also, she might give them ideas-- and you end up having to retake your own base.
 Ehhhh, I think we should just leave that one alone... :-X
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Surf on March 15, 2011, 02:15:51 am
I'm all for adding atmosphere, lore and general feel wise, but sorry Michel. this one seems like a nice idea, but not for a multiplayergame. :/ It will only add lots of possible bug sources, while not enhancing the "gameplay". The idea itself is nice, but won't happen until a scripter is really really bored.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Bowlin12 on March 15, 2011, 02:18:19 am
This is amazing.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 02:33:58 am
I'm all for adding atmosphere, lore and general feel wise, but sorry Michel. this one seems like a nice idea, but not for a multiplayergame. :/ It will only add lots of possible bug sources, while not enhancing the "gameplay". The idea itself is nice, but won't happen until a scripter is really really bored.
Are you sure?  I mean not everything needs to be added that is posted in the suggestion.  It could work almost exactly like homesteader/farmers, and she can go to base, where you must give her condoms to do work for you.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Reginmund on March 15, 2011, 03:08:04 am
Make her addicted to jet so she will crawl back to you!

You controls the jet, you controls the prostitution!

Side effects may vary.... she may bring poor business.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 03:10:19 am
Make her addicted to jet so she will crawl back to you!

You controls the jet, you controls the prostitution!

Side effects may vary.... she may bring poor business.
Ah yes!  Jet and Condoms baby, jet to make to keep control and make her party for good!  or... go crazy >.>.  And condoms to keep her... useable.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Ulrek on March 15, 2011, 04:14:50 am
I'm for adding hookers for fun, or as away to make pixel money, but if you add female hookers, you should be able to hire a big manly mobster skin guy, or one of those farmer hill billy guys.

Just having female hookers makes things too serious, having farmers around that like it when you call them "perdy" lightens things up.

(Plus having only female hookers is sexist and stuff... or so i've heared...)

-Ulrek-
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: foonlinecurious on March 15, 2011, 05:30:40 am
Regain health, or perhaps boost luck temporarily ?
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: TheGreenHand on March 15, 2011, 07:13:57 am
[with a certain amount of speech you can convince the prostitute to run away with you from her pimp, but there should be a chance the pimp will randomly spawn in your tent, demanding the whore back or he could draw gun and start shooting, if you lose at this either dialogue or combat you lose the whore, or a random encuonter.]
Or lose your tent!  That'd be great.
 But honestly, I'm not sure what services she'd be qualified to provide except skanky sex.  Caps for bangin?  Seems strange, you're a pimp with only one bitch.  Could be a random amount of caps (1-100) every real life day.  That makes it more like a novelty.
Oh, and it should be something at base, not at a tent.  And also, maybe gang members could bang her for caps.  No bonus of any sort, except for the "heh thats a cool feature" feeling.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: OskaRus on March 15, 2011, 10:51:01 am
Yes yes. We want more sex, porn, and child abuse like in real wasteland!
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Badger on March 15, 2011, 11:09:39 am
I vote no. Our playerbase is almost entirely men, and then to add in the capturing, keeping and fucking of pixel wives? Weird and desperate.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: pistacja on March 15, 2011, 11:15:10 am
At the end of the day it's just free caps.
The way people play this game it... they'd just make pimp alts.

There should be some sex in the game, but not like this.

Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 11:31:03 am
Or lose your tent!  That'd be great.
 But honestly, I'm not sure what services she'd be qualified to provide except skanky sex.  Caps for bangin?  Seems strange, you're a pimp with only one bitch.  Could be a random amount of caps (1-100) every real life day.  That makes it more like a novelty.
Oh, and it should be something at base, not at a tent.  And also, maybe gang members could bang her for caps.  No bonus of any sort, except for the "heh thats a cool feature" feeling.
Well of course you can buy more than one but there should be a limit of course.  And you would need to give her condoms and jet to work for you.  5-1000 caps a 3 rl hours.

I vote no. Our playerbase is almost entirely men, and then to add in the capturing, keeping and fucking of pixel wives? Weird and desperate.
Capturing...?  Who said capturing?  You read the whole post right?  besides we can already enslave women we just can't force them into prostitution, which is sads.  And again, they'll just work like homesteaders/farmers at base, give them things and they go out and get you money.

At the end of the day it's just free caps.
The way people play this game it... they'd just make pimp alts.

There should be some sex in the game, but not like this.
Remember the back of the fo2 case?  "Fall in love, get married, and then pimp your spouse for a little extra chum-change.  Hey, its a dark world out there."

Besides there there is already the cat's paw, there is just no point, and the dialogue is just.. well, shit.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lexx on March 15, 2011, 11:34:04 am
The "bring her to a tent"-idea is definitive out of discussion. Will never happen.

At the rest:
The real question is, what gain the player would have from paying (male or female) whores. Just for some small dialog, it's not really worth to pay money. In fact, players would do it only once to check it out and then never touch it again, if at all. Giving back hitpoints like in the GTA games? Pretty lame and we also have doctors in towns who can do it much better.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lizard on March 15, 2011, 11:37:50 am
Oh my...

I find it distasteful. The original Fallout had sex, but it was at least given a neutral facade, remember "Klamath Bath House"?
Besides, if it's obvious and open, there's no room for own picante imagination, but for much destructive controversy in various circles.

Prostitutes could sell condoms you give them or remove minor addictions - that would be neutral in sense of taste. Still, there's also a matter of coding and game balance... But theres a minor thing the developers could introduce at least for some dirty RP:

Make a command to knock yourself down, in both directions and a speech option for a slave to "get some rest", because the only ruder thing than knocking her/him down will be enabling a unconscious body to become a item in your inventory, meant to further transport into the cave. ;)
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 11:38:16 am
The "bring her to a tent"-idea is definitive out of discussion. Will never happen.
that was my bigger hope, noooo!.  :(

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At the rest:
The real question is, what gain the player would have from paying (male or female) whores. Just for some small dialog, it's not really worth to pay money. In fact, players would do it only once to check it out and then never touch it again, if at all. Giving back hitpoints like in the GTA games? Pretty lame and we also have doctors in towns who can do it much better.
They would work mostly like homesteaders/farmers, you give them jet, and condoms, they go to the nearest town ( of course they never actually spawn in it or "pew pew" would happen every time ) and come back with some random amount of caps.

And bonuses to having sex with them....  Well...  The Cat's paw doesn't give bonuses and the action dialogue is really disappointing since it's the same thing with all of their services so we could just leave it at that.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lexx on March 15, 2011, 11:39:32 am
Well, if you have hookers 'n stuff standing around on the streets in a town, thorwing out some 'fitting' floats... I think it's pretty obvious and open already.

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And bonuses to having sex with them....  Well...  The Cat's paw doesn't give bonuses and the action dialogue is really disappointing since it's the same thing with all of their services so we could just leave it at that.

But that was my point. Why writing more text to it than random npc floats, if it has no real effect anyway except you using some money on them.

The general idea of paying them to gain something small isn't bad, I think. It just has to make sense and be kind of tasteful and not childish "hihihi" stuff.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: JovankaB on March 15, 2011, 11:59:53 am
Not related to sex, but perhaps the prostitutes could give you valuable information. For example you pay them, and they tell you who is in town, for example:

"Hey, have you seen anything interesting around? [give 20 caps]"

And she could answer:

"I heard there is (player name) in the East Side."

Or "I have seen some people fighting in the Commercial Row just a few moments ago"


The higher speech skill, the more often you can ask, or implement something else that would make speech more useful.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lexx on March 15, 2011, 12:00:40 pm
I think that's a pretty good idea. Just depends on how easy / smooth it can be scripted.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lizard on March 15, 2011, 12:00:44 pm
Well, if you have hookers 'n stuff standing around on the streets in a town, thorwing out some 'fitting' floats... I think it's pretty obvious and open already.

The general idea of paying them to gain something small isn't bad, I think. It just has to make sense and be kind of tasteful and not childish "hihihi" stuff.

It's still a difference between obvious and explicite. As for real gain, "sexual healing" was already spoken up in this topic and since there's no real explicite graphical content in game involved, this will be limited on textual passages, e.g. pay a hooker for HP and a postcoital pearl of wisdom.

Edit: And hey, Jovanka, the gossip suggestion is great!
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: vedaras on March 15, 2011, 12:39:15 pm
prostitutes should lower your endurance temporary i think, but boost one of AP/CH or maybe something like cookie for being nice... Then players may use them for real :>
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Crazy on March 15, 2011, 12:42:58 pm
A boost for having sex sounds good ;p

But also, just thought about something: like your slave can mine, why you couldn't tell to your 'cute slaves' to prostitute in Reno? They would bring some caps instead of minerals, and like it's an ungarded place, couldn't be abused too easily.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: OskaRus on March 15, 2011, 01:01:29 pm
Cryzis idea sounds very good. But we are strafing from the sex thing by simply using bitches as caps miners. :-)
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Solar on March 15, 2011, 01:10:18 pm
Not related to sex, but perhaps the prostitutes could give you valuable information. For example you pay them, and they tell you who is in town, for example:

"Hey, have you seen anything interesting around? [give 20 caps]"

And she could answer:

"I heard there is (player name) in the East Side."

Or "I have seen some people fighting in the Commercial Row just a few moments ago"


The higher speech skill, the more often you can ask, or implement something else that would make speech more useful.

Something worthwhile in a "more sex please" thread? A miracle!
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lizard on March 15, 2011, 01:36:08 pm
Something worthwhile in a "more sex please" thread? A miracle!

Oh please.
Romance will be too much scripting!
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Izual on March 15, 2011, 01:44:20 pm
Not related to sex, but perhaps the prostitutes could give you valuable information. For example you pay them, and they tell you who is in town, for example:

"Hey, have you seen anything interesting around? [give 20 caps]"

And she could answer:

"I heard there is (player name) in the East Side."

Or "I have seen some people fighting in the Commercial Row just a few moments ago"

The higher speech skill, the more often you can ask, or implement something else that would make speech more useful.
That was unexpected !
I totally agree. Do want. Plus, it can even be linked to speech skill and/or reputation and/or charisma...
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lizard on March 15, 2011, 01:49:31 pm
I have another addition to this suggestion.

You could pay the hooker so that she could look out for certain person.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: kraskish on March 15, 2011, 02:08:31 pm
I have a new addition too: make a profession: hooker. I think lvl 1 is enough. Could earn caps that way. Also add pimps with missions xD
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: rogueboy on March 15, 2011, 03:42:49 pm
Not related to sex, but perhaps the prostitutes could give you valuable information. For example you pay them, and they tell you who is in town, for example:

"Hey, have you seen anything interesting around? [give 20 caps]"

And she could answer:

"I heard there is (player name) in the East Side."

Or "I have seen some people fighting in the Commercial Row just a few moments ago"


The higher speech skill, the more often you can ask, or implement something else that would make speech more useful.

This is something I agree on other than degrading the few female players we have, or getting more of something we do not need right now; caps.

and if all these other ideas get approved why not implement a sex doll that you can use once every 15 mins you suffer a -1 to STR and END for 5 minutes and get a +2 CH Since your character is tired but happy.


I'm only joking about the sex doll.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: GammaGM on March 15, 2011, 10:06:30 pm
 :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

This is perhaps the most pathetic thing imaginable.  Two dimensional conversations about degrading women further.  Seriously, if you are looking for some pathetic limp-dick scenarios, seek something more interesting than FOnline as your venue. 

Beyond it being pathetic, too many opportunities to be abused by the morally bankrupt- as if the PKs, campers, bombers, thieves and trolls wern't enough.

Gong, sucky idea
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 15, 2011, 10:28:46 pm
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

This is perhaps the most pathetic thing imaginable.  Two dimensional conversations about degrading women further.  Seriously, if you are looking for some pathetic limp-dick scenarios, seek something more interesting than FOnline as your venue. 

Beyond it being pathetic, too many opportunities to be abused by the morally bankrupt- as if the PKs, campers, bombers, thieves and trolls wern't enough.

Gong, sucky idea
You were able to pimp out your fucking wife and have her whore out for you for cash in Fo2...  So whats your fucking deal?  Maybe this isn't the game for you.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: rogueboy on March 16, 2011, 01:26:22 am
I'm not going to give a speech on morality especially to you, but I don't think whoring people out for caps is something this game needs as already caps are so devalued as to be near worthless.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 16, 2011, 11:31:14 am
I'm not going to give a speech on morality especially to you, but I don't think whoring people out for caps is something this game needs as already caps are so devalued as to be near worthless.
That's just current situation due to:

1. Interest in banks.
2. TC glitch allowing people who had towns at the time to keep them 24/7 without fear of losing them for a bout a month. (Namely The Rogues)
3. More interest in banks.

This could be useable next wipe, but of course not this era.

P.s. I have a soul, but Fo2 doesn't care about souls, it is a wasteland reality simulator  :P
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: kiki123 on March 16, 2011, 01:52:56 pm
Listening to all this just makes me laugh horny nerd kids willing to have any sex dialouge in the game or sex it self implented ... i even se slavers trying to role play as pimps... for fucks sakes pay more atettinon to ur wife/girl/bitch if u guys even have 1 and u will have less and less need to see 2 d pixel fuck fest on the interenet.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: OskaRus on March 16, 2011, 01:59:55 pm
I'm not going to give a speech on morality especially to you, but I don't think whoring people out for caps is something this game needs as already caps are so devalued as to be near worthless.

ok right. Ability to perform bukake when u gangrape someone by avengers should be sufficient then. xD
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Lizard on March 16, 2011, 03:41:32 pm
For god's sake, just close this thread.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 16, 2011, 06:36:34 pm
Notice how everyone opposing this thread are just forum alts 90%. (Other words just trolls)

Only Lizard is true. :P
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: rogueboy on March 17, 2011, 06:22:49 am
Gotta make a name for yourself somehow :p
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: kiki123 on March 17, 2011, 06:44:19 pm
im not a troll, ive been playing foline since closed beta and i think u are the one thats wrong, and you are the one who needs to get some pussy and get out of puberty. Of course having whores/hoes/sluts/hookers is a normal in a fallout  game, but its deffenatly the last thing i would be working on the game ... espessaly when it has other issues and matters that should be solved, this is not even worth mentioning, but seeing you planned it all out makes me see how young and desperate you are.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: foonlinecurious on March 17, 2011, 11:24:03 pm
there is a morality issues with whoring out people for caps?  dude the game has SLAVERY, and death, and you see a problem with usable prostitutes? :P

and mans got a point, you could do that in fallout 2, its not like he's asking for some something outrageous for the fallout universe.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Surf on March 17, 2011, 11:30:18 pm
No one talked about morality issues, it's about the fact that stuff like this is most of the time poorly implemented and just cheesy, we got better stuff to do then to fullfil teenagers angsty dreams and so on. I don't think you will see this anytime soon, if ever. Jovankas Suggestion was very good though.
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: LagMaster on March 19, 2011, 12:50:47 am
also there are a lot of kids that play the game
moast of the troll-PK faction are just kids
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Michaelh139 on March 20, 2011, 10:40:43 pm
No one talked about morality issues, it's about the fact that stuff like this is most of the time poorly implemented and just cheesy, we got better stuff to do then to fullfil teenagers angsty dreams and so on. I don't think you will see this anytime soon, if ever. Jovankas Suggestion was very good though.
(Just got back from a, vacation of sorts   :o)

People have been talking about it being morally wrong.  Rogueboy, Lizard...   :-\

This is not a suggestion about making us get hard off of some text  ::), its about making use of an already completely useless NPC (Cute slaves/Handsome/or reno prostitutes for hire) to work for resources by providing a different resource.  (e.g. Homesteaders/Farmers)  So the scripting is already there.. you just need to add some dialogue and some extra bits I suppose to get it working. :P

And yes...  Jovanka's suggestion was very good, although, isn't that what Town Preview is for?  xD  (They only exist in New Reno and since it's not TCable....)

@Lagmaster:  Spam much?

P.S. Just noticed a "New Reno Sex Workers" Reputation on Karma, maybe you could use this for something?
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: Surf on March 21, 2011, 03:27:36 am
So the scripting is already there.. you just need to add some dialogue and some extra bits I suppose to get it working. :P

Quote from: Surf
No one talked about morality issues, it's about the fact that stuff like this is most of the time poorly implemented and just cheesy, we got better stuff to do then to fullfil teenagers angsty dreams and so on. I don't think you will see this anytime soon, if ever
Title: Re: Sex and Romance after the Bomb.
Post by: StJimmy2000 on March 21, 2011, 06:56:07 pm
You can have female tribals as sex slaves :D