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Title: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Doctor Eex on February 01, 2011, 08:36:26 pm
O'k let's discuss this piece-of-art in Energy Weaponry.
What we know now? It's expensive, but farmable.
And it is ridiculous useless as weapon.

An H&K L30 Gatling Laser. Designed specifically for military use, these were in the prototype stage at the beginning of the War. Multiple barrels allow longer firing before overheating. Powered by Micro Fusion Cells.
Damage    20 - 40
Burst    AP: 7, Range: 40, Rounds: 10 ST7

My heart asks this weapon to be plasma type. Gatling Plasmer? But I doubt developers will listen to such opinion

First of all, anyway it needs damage boost. Let make it like laser rifle 25-50.  Now gatling does less than 100 dmg point blank to metal armor.

Second, it need Penetrate perk

Third, I suggest it's bust should not spread in 3 lines.  It is a laser after all and don't have recoil. This way we will get more concentrated fire to  target and
whoever behind or in front of.

Not sure about range, but 40 seems ok, as laser have extended range over other weapon types in FO

If implemented and balanced right, we will get a new, extremely deadly but expensive weapon for TC and whatever.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18265894/gatling600.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Crazy on February 01, 2011, 08:39:01 pm
Already suggested many times (boost to gatling laser I mean)... Still not answered.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Imprezobus on February 01, 2011, 08:43:36 pm
quoting devs: there shouldnt be this weapon in game.

I totally disagree with devs, totally agree with suggestion. Gatling plasmer: >
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Doctor Eex on February 01, 2011, 08:56:43 pm
quoting devs: there shouldnt be this weapon in game.

I totally disagree with devs, totally agree with suggestion. Gatling plasmer: >

I know I know. We should hit each other with rocks and poke with spears but... hope still alive.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: drypoothe on February 01, 2011, 09:12:43 pm
I know I know. We should hit each other with rocks and poke with spears but... hope still alive.

I don't understand the constant removal of items like power armors, vindicators, etc

If they're OP, why not just nerf them a bit and put them in game? if they're useless, making them a bit more powerful and adding them.

Usually as time goes on, MMO devs add more stuff, not remove...
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Haterade on February 01, 2011, 10:07:06 pm
Usually as time goes on, MMO devs add more stuff, not remove...

right now were in beta stages (correct me if wrong). but what you just said is so damn true!
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: NastyKhan on February 02, 2011, 01:37:43 am
I don't understand the constant removal of items like power armors, vindicators, etc

If they're OP, why not just nerf them a bit and put them in game? if they're useless, making them a bit more powerful and adding them.

Usually as time goes on, MMO devs add more stuff, not remove...

Copy-paste from me. I totally agree with every single word.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Kilgore on February 02, 2011, 05:00:58 am
Plasma Gatling Laser? Oh no, please don't do that :)
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Doctor Eex on February 02, 2011, 05:30:19 am
O'k forget about gatling plasmer. Just read the rest: (damage increase, penetrate, no dividing burst in 3)
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: LagMaster on February 02, 2011, 11:33:41 am
i agree, gatling must be boosted
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Haraldx on February 02, 2011, 12:40:38 pm
I agree the part what you said about the bullet spreading - Laser doesn't do any recoil and a laser never changes it's trajectory unless mirrors and such stuff is used (Tesla armor is shiny :P). Maybe Tesla armor will finally be used somewhere.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2011, 01:27:20 pm
right now were in beta stages (correct me if wrong). but what you just said is so damn true!

There needs to be a level above the "top" level as incentive to reach the high ranks of factions, or complete hard/complex quests.

Having said that, I think the Gatling is really waiting for a fix to the encounter system so they can be given to Enclavers without them then being really easy to farm.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Doctor Eex on February 02, 2011, 01:33:59 pm
There needs to be a level above the "top" level as incentive to reach the high ranks of factions, or complete hard/complex quests.

Having said that, I think the Gatling is really waiting for a fix to the encounter system so they can be given to Enclavers without them then being really easy to farm.

Solar, will be Gatling available to players? If yes, and it will much more hardly obtainable, then it definitely need buff up, how do you think?
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: DocAN. on February 02, 2011, 01:37:49 pm
Gatling story is long as FOnline, its a toy from begining, and it will be like it coz DEVs thinks that players need some toys :/
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Crazy on February 02, 2011, 02:45:12 pm
There needs to be a level above the "top" level as incentive to reach the high ranks of factions, or complete hard/complex quests.

Having said that, I think the Gatling is really waiting for a fix to the encounter system so they can be given to Enclavers without them then being really easy to farm.

Well, 600HP, an APA, good skills and special, 10 AP, buffed gatling laser, avenger (if not they were not toys), plasma rifle instead of pistol, at least patrol of 5 guys ---> not easily farmable !
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: LagMaster on February 02, 2011, 06:34:24 pm
Well, 600HP, an APA, good skills and special, 10 AP, buffed gatling laser, avenger (if not they were not toys), plasma rifle instead of pistol, at least patrol of 5 guys ---> not easily farmable !
add an army of 15 PvEs with a radio scout in TB and it will be other thing that only big factions can afford

why can't anyone thing of something that low level players can do?
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Sarakin on February 02, 2011, 07:35:07 pm
Solar was surely talking about crippling, nowadays its not difficult to encounter just one guy and cripple him. If GL were powerful, Im sure everyone would farm them 24/7
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Solar on February 02, 2011, 08:11:39 pm
Solar was surely talking about crippling, nowadays its not difficult to encounter just one guy and cripple him. If GL were powerful, Im sure everyone would farm them 24/7

Correct, crippling makes it pretty easy. When I finally get into my new house I'll be able to resume work on the encounters.

Of course the Gatling would need to be boosted, its untouched so far, so will suck.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Crazy on February 02, 2011, 08:26:46 pm
Of course the Gatling would need to be boosted, its untouched so far, so will suck.

In regard of my numbers (they may be wrong), just give it same spread than pancor and it will be a bit more deadliest than avenger of most armor, except metal/tesla (for a superior price). With penetrate perk as well, it should be effective even on it.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Lexx on February 02, 2011, 10:25:58 pm
Usually as time goes on, MMO devs add more stuff, not remove...

Yeh, let's clutter the game with every shit and later, when everything is hopeless broken, try to fix it.


Also we've added stuff all the time, but you most likely forgot. I want everyone to remember the first april of 2010.
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Surf on February 02, 2011, 10:28:32 pm
Also we've added stuff all the time, but you most likely forgot. I want everyone to remember the first april of 2010.

People forget or pretend to do so the bad things and only remind the good things to have something to bemoan about. ;)
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Doctor Eex on February 02, 2011, 10:36:59 pm
Hey people you are doing great job. Otherwise i would not suggest anything.
I like the idea of balancing and making better things that are already here.
Don't lsten those warcrafters
Title: Re: Make Gatling a weapon, not toy.
Post by: Crazy on February 02, 2011, 11:51:27 pm
Also we've added stuff all the time, but you most likely forgot. I want everyone to remember the first april of 2010.

Whine about first april was basically because we were all level 1 again by surprise, knowing we wouldn't even have time to level up and enjoy old version. Oh, and NC wasn't working, it was annoying...
It wasn't really about loosing some news.



PS: I recognize many good things were done. but some bad from our opinion too ;p