lexx u know it will happen, people are asking for updates and u are asking for money. make few updates and again most of them will be happy and they will share their mom`s money on this servI must agreee with jacky, players want update, devs need money, no update means no money..............
The forum runs on the same server, btw. So if the server goes down, not only the game, but also the forum will not be available anymore. We probably can pay for a few months by ourself, but not for a very long time.
In the last 2 moths there was over 250 commits (updates) in the server and client repositories.
Many of these were simple things, some other are bigger projects that are still work in progress.
I don't exactly understand thoughts behind the scene. From what is happening it looks more like some crazy like-to-be designer or programmer coming up with features that nobody wants and nobody can be expected to wants them, and then spend long time fixing the damage caused.
I'll just say this before someone else says it with more hostile tone.
It doesn't make very good impression on the playerbase if a developer is silent for months only to tell that money is needed to run the server. We got some nice devs like JovankaB, Wipe, Mayck and Johnny Nuclear who participate in discussions here and in irc. But would be nice if the actual old timer devs who got the real say on development could share their ideas of the game and communicate. Or just play the game and see what's it like from the player's point of view. I could even donate so that they could play it.
You could have some goals like capturing a tc town, finding all blueprints or constructing a base next to every town :>
Sucks to be the messenger of ill news but playing the yes-man won't help either.
you know the drill.
(http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/23483000/ngbbs4ec37080156fa.jpg)
In the last 2 moths there was over 250 commits (updates) in the server and client repositories.
Many of these were simple things, some other are bigger projects that are still work in progress.
But really the point is that without donations there will be no public game server and no forum
like this one (might be some small board a on free server for dev use in the best case ). I can
speak only for myself, but my point of view is that it's really mainly for you not for us (or at least
for me). I'm having fun with repository not in the game and it's stored on a free server.
Again - this is only my opinion, but if hundreds of players who play the game can't sustain the
server by cheaping in from time to time, then I don't think a few people who actually spend their
time working on it should jump out of cash to provide YOU a free game to play.
I'll just say this before someone else says it with more hostile tone.
It doesn't make very good impression on the playerbase if a developer is silent for months only to tell that money is needed to run the server.
In your second shift you work on the game so you get praised/to feel loved/supreme.
lexx, can u spare 1weekend to make some fixes and run 1-2updates. then money will flow.
:D I must have missed this in all the years.
Donated.Shame on you, son, shame.
Shame on you, son, shame.
In that case, Hut ab, Lexx.
Donated.
We are striking. I encourage everyone not to donate. If there will be no update in the upcoming days then I will donate to project eternity by obsidian instead. It will be a better use of my money
Thank you for your contribution.
My motivation is fun from working on something, not to get as much internet fame as possible. In such a case, I would chose to work on a more popular game. Seriously, since 2009s release, we got insulted pretty much all the time from at least one group of players. Not just criticised, but insulted. Heh, in the beginning especially I was the target for a lot people, simply because I was one of the most visible devs- I was to be blamed for everything, even things I never touched. So yeah, if fame and love would be my motivation, I would have quit over 2 years ago.
.... Not just criticised, but insulted. Heh, in the beginning especially I was the target for a lot people, simply because I was one of the most visible devs- I was to be blamed for everything, even things I never touched. So yeah, if fame and love would be my motivation, I would have quit over 2 years ago.
... It is more healthy for everyone if we don't state our opinion at all.
Huh? Why? I've noticed that players get frustrated due to the opposite, tell me how can it be.
Angry player: "&@#&*#&*@ you lexx don't work, bla bla bla!"
Lexx: "da fuk? Eat banana!"
End of story.
I don't exactly understand thoughts behind the scene. From what is happening it looks more like some crazy like-to-be designer or programmer coming up with features that nobody wants and nobody can be expected to wants them, and then spend long time fixing the damage caused.
Meanwhile, everyone else donated enough money to cover server costs for two months.
Yay community! ;D
If they don't like what they hear, they get frustrated as well.
For me, i dont understand why you cant make one update with only one fix on list just to make PvP comunnity happy.
That's harder said than done ;) Working with pvp community will never end because it's so quickly evolving area of gameplay.we all agree that ac must go. The ones that dont want it to go in the "pvp community" are solo trolls like roacher.
we all agree that ac must go. The ones that dont want it to go in the "pvp community" are solo trolls like roacher.whoa whoa whoa, I play solo too but I don't troll around with AC, too much work just to level an alt just to have people have their weapon exploded.
Giving ur money and demanding something is quite normal.In case of donations it's quite normal to not demand anything. In what universe are you living?
It has been said few times already and it's becoming boring. You don't pay devs for they work, they work for free. Money is raised to keep the servers running and even that is voluntary. They don't have any profit from that.
You don't have time to play, yet you expect them to have it and be there on your call to fulfill your demands.
They've already stated that the problems you have mentioned have been noted and will be changed when it will be possible.
If they are busy now there is nothing you can do so get over it. As Lexx said, they are not ignoring anyone, and I believe they probably agree with all the suggestions posted by you and other experienced players, just have some patience.
Have some fucking respect for players, they are not carpets.
Holy crap... while reading this thread I was feeling like, you know... hitting a little finger at a wall, hundred times in a row. If you know what I mean. So much sadness in seeing how degraded this community has become over the past 3 years. Shame on you, guys.
And to the rest of you - enjoy your free ride I guess (and it's fine really, just have a little bit of sense and at least don't call names people who in the last years spent hundreds of hours working on the game and solving your problems for free).I'm going to reply specifically to this post because it simply rubbed me the wrong way and in my eyes it's one of the greatest sins a dev can make.
I'm going to reply specifically to this post because it simply rubbed me the wrong way and in my eyes it's one of the greatest sins a dev can make.He has a point.
It's your game. Your problems. Acting like you're not competing on the market like every other game (commercial, indie, free, whatever) is delusional, you aren't doing anyone a favour more than, say, Call of Duty 35235 devs. The fact that your game is free doesn't make it a special snowflake, it simply makes it more attractive in some people's eyes but it's still a product people are willing or unwilling to support.
tl;dr version: you're the ones that should be fighting to have a big and happy playerbase, not the other way around. Otherwise your project is going to fail and it's not going to be my failure, it's not going to be Shangalar's failure, it's not going to be T-888's failure - it's going to be exclusively your failure and wasted effort. For us it's going to be at worst a slight disappointment because at some point in our lives we expected 2238 not to suck.
Considering all the insult, trolling and disrespect, it is a miracle they keep communication and work.
is going to be exclusively your failure and wasted effort. For us it's going to be at worst a slight disappointment because at some point in our lives we expected 2238 not to suck.
Solar working hard on armor class.
"Hmmm ... what will happen when i change this 90 to 9999 ..."
After 5 months of absence.
*angry mob of players on forum*
"Hmmm ... i guess i will now implement a magic potion to increase armor class."
Some month of absence and to be continued ...
Communication? i haven't seen them do much of that other than some who only reply to argue with players. I haven't seen devs posting any useful feedback for some time.
What?Congrats you found one thread in 2 years. i wasn't bashing anyone i just think they could give more feedback and it might even suppress a bit of the rage/trolling.
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,26046.15.html
Way to go, Crovax, jump on the bandwagon and bash 'em. Are you participating in discussions like this or you go straight to the flames?
But ... the problem is that they don't see it is a failure, from a developers point of view (...)
Yeah, when you read some of their posts it becomes obvious they're disconnected from reality when it comes to how games work. I mean I understand they might see 2238 as a nice pet project that they like to work on, but it doesn't change whether it works as a game or doesn't. Games are supposed to be entertaining and to appeal to their target group - and who does 2238 really appeal to? How many people would write this game a stellar or even mediocre review right here, right now - and how many gaming magazines or even niche blogs would accept a positive review without losing credibility in front of their visitors?
The problem is nobody's asking these questions, it's just the same old ego-fueled story with some of the devs acting like 2238 is special as if the internet wasn't already full of free games. The reality is harsh - if a game sucks, it loses players and stops being played. Games are designed to be played, so if they fail at attracting people they are bad games. It really is as simple as that. And if the devs are hell-bent on disregarding everything (I mean negative support is still support, if you want your game to improve as a game it's infinitely better than silence which basically means your game is dead an nobody cares) and making a bad game that will cater to somewhere around ten or twenty people with some extremely weird tastes, they should just have the god-damn balls to finally admit it so that everyone else can finally know what to expect.
Aren't you tired of repeating yourself all the time?IMHO this is the problem. pointless post with no feedback or anything related to the topic.
Aren't you tired of repeating yourself all the time?
So why are you still playing it/write on forums?Because I just might be one of the 20 people with a really weird taste. Or maybe it's just by a force of habit. Who knows?
Aren't you tired of repeating yourself all the time?Not really, no... how about you? I'm just really curious whether anyone from your devteam can provide a somewhat satisfying answer to the questions I ask. On the other hand, I'm not entirely sure what's your point... do you get off on acting mighty, arrogant and dismissive all the time?
Not really, no... how about you? I'm just really curious whether anyone from your devteam can provide a somewhat satisfying answer to the questions I ask.
No idea what answers you want to have. Should we bow down and admit all faulty things and then go cover in shame? What would it change for you? Would you get off on it?You could join the discussion instead of making snide replies here and there to other players.
This "discussion" here comes up like every two days and I really don't feel motivated to hash and rehash it over and over again.But you are motivated to reply in an unprofessional manner on a regular basis, i see. My point is that all most of these people want is an intelligent conversation with a little feedback from the devs and maybe use the blog a bit more to let us know whats being planned for our future.
What answers do you want to have? Should we bow down and admit all faulty things and then go cover in shame? What would it change for you? Would you get off on it?When you admit you're doing something wrong you can start doing it right. Have you ever tried to get over yourself and consider the fact that at least some people who care enough to post here just might be trying to help you out, or at least give you feedback you can work on?
Nice_Boat talks about stuff all the time which we know already. In fact, most of the shit is what we have seen before already, but that doesn't mean it can be changed ninja-style. Reading about it all the time, though, is as annoying as listening to jehovah's witnesses. I am pretty sure I explained this already a few times, but hey, as long as we don't do a huge shame-post or whatever it probably isn't noticed, I have no idea.First of all, I don't really post here a lot and if you all knew this stuff I wouldn't have to reply to posts like the one coming from Jovanka or I would've gotten a definite answer a long time ago and stopped bugging you about this issue.
What a fucking mess... If any of this was a bitmap image format, Prosper would be proud of you. Now, some things really piss me off.
First of all, get it once and for all - this game is free. There are no clients, no purchases, no hiring and no contracts. If you're failing to realise that, then gtfo this board and better not show anywhere on internet, or anywhere else, for that matter, because all you're gonna do is cause permanent brain damage for normal people.
Second: the game is free. If you gave donation, cool. If not, great. I couldn't give less fuck. You don't give anything to us, developers, because we develop the game for free. We do it, because we think the online Fallout is a unique project that deserves our support and it's our way to express us and/or our creations in a form of a computer game. Giving donation just keep the Paris running, so that you can play. No donations - no play. I can play with my friends on my PC, just fire up the server and go, go ,go. But if you don't give donations, you're the one who won't be playing. Why some of you try to implicate that you pay for something - for ANYTHING - in regard to the development by giving donations? You are donating in order to keep the server running, you're not donating to the development/team/someone special.
Third, and last - you got it - the game is free. We'll keep developing it and finding ways to keep the server going along as long as we can, but don't expect us to work like anyone hired us. We work for free, we provide this game for free. Someone putting devs under pressure "just because she/he has donated and wants to see a wipe" has counter-productive effects and will most probably postpone the development or (really bad situation, but quite possible) start argue in the dev team. I, for one, would like to see my teammates relaxed and working within their creativity window; on the other hand I certainly wouldn't like seeing them riled up for reading a bad post on forum about the game not being wiped for XYZ months and donations.
Now, a few words about the "wipe very soon". Since we have had wipe 16 months ago, most of the players have left the game or lost interest in the running version of 2238. We decided to post "wipe will be very soon", so that anyone who's still interested in the game may prepare for the upcoming wipe. This means contacting friends, arranging faction(s) and goals, whatever. The end of my blogpost indicates this clearly, and if you didn't get this right away, then drop by your local library and don't get back here until reading half of the content there. The wipe will be very soon, since most of the features we have planned for it already are implemented, now we try to polish the game up before the release. We don't know how long this may take, but **I personally hope** we can count the time in weeks or (the überbest scenario) in days.
Thank you for your attention and for not being an a......e while posting after this post.
Not that I'm a fan of the way how is 2238 developed, but it's not my fucking business either. I play it or I quit it, simple.Right, because games should be played in complete silence and this board has been set up so that nobody can voice his or her opinion here. Makes perfect sense.
The fact is, when scypior is receiving 50 euro bills every month and asks for help, then some of you morons bark at him - then something is not right.Nobody's barking, it's just some people simply telling him it's no longer worth their money. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to say and actually serves a purpose unlike telling everyone they should stfu and gtfo from the sideline.
Nobody's barking,O rly? Read whole topic before posting, please. For me, it's mostly barking coming from some frustrated morons who can't get what lisac said long ago (see quote in my previous post). Even though he stated it extremely clearly.
it's just some people simply telling him it's no longer worth their money.Again, see the quote. No clients, no purchases, no hiring, no contracts. If too hard to understand, gtfo this board (and hey, they have the full right to make you gtfo, even when they just don't like ya - it's not like you have any rights here).
Basically Kilgore, just like the 2238 devs you're missing a very simple and very basic point here. It's a goddamn video game, not a charity.You (as me) are not the one deciding what it is and what it is not. 2238 is what it's creators want it to be, not what you or me or others want it to be.
O rly? Read whole topic before posting, please. For me, it's mostly barking coming from some frustrated morons who can't get what lisac said long ago (see quote in my previous post). Even though he stated it extremely clearly.And for me the post you quoted is just a piece of frustrated blabbering coming from an artist who repeatedly gives a crap performance for free and fails to realize why he's getting booed instead of being congratulated for a splendid show. It's pretty simple, nobody cares what your skills or paycheck look like until you place them in front of an audience - and when you do, you better be damn well prepared to take some criticism. Besides, it's not my fault that 2238 devs are getting a tomato to the face instead of tons of letters from hot groupies willing to have their babies for bringing them the best game ever, or at least since Tetris - I'm just making an observation, that's all.
Again, see the quote. No clients, no purchases, no hiring, no contracts. If too hard to understand, gtfo this board (and hey, they have the full right to make you gtfo, even when they just don't like ya - it's not like you have any rights here).Actually I have the right to express my opinions here until they deny me that. I'm simply exercising that right and so is everyone else here, including you. As far as the client-purchase-contract part goes it doesn't really matter because the most important thing about entertainment (games) isn't whether it's free or costs money, it's whether it's fun or a waste of time. Bad entertainment = booing instead of clapping. No amount of banhammer or developer butthurt is going to change that, it's just how human society works.
You (as me) are not the one deciding what it is and what it is not. 2238 is what it's creators want it to be, not what you or me or others want it to be.You're mistaking expressing an opinion for trying to take part in the decision making process. Actually, I wouldn't want to get involved with the latter on 2238 because in all honesty this project is looking more and more like an unsalvageable mess.
Basically Nice_Boat, you and several other persons in this topic should stop behaving like videogame-obsessed 12yo kids. This is just a piece of free advice, enjoy.I'm not really keen on taking advice resulting from misinterpretation so thanks, but no thanks.
Anyway, no point in beating on a dead horse any further, so it's over and out from me.
I know devs have lifes and all that jazz but please if you guys don't have the time anymore to fix stuff and make updates please give power to new devs so they can do stuff. please all we want is the simple fixes.
And yet they complain about their community...
Someone must be really retarded here...[2238whinermodeon] Lol you're so stupid let the server rot, we're paying devs for work, and why there is no update?!! lame [2238whinermodeoff]
The only costs that arise here, is the costs for the server. Devs pay for the server usually themselves, but you're welcome to DONATE.
DONATING is VOLUNTARY.
So the server runs on DONATIONS so it can be PUBLIC.
FREE, because there's no way to finance it through ANY OTHER MEANS, like ADVERTISEMENTS.
NO ADVERTISEMENTS.
NO CUSTOM SKINS FOR MONEY.
NO ANYTHING FOR MONEY.
ELSE BETHHOUNDS.
BETHHOUNDS BAD.
BETHHOUNDS KILLED V13
BETHHOUNDS WILL COME FOR 2238.
That means, if the DONATIONS aren't there, the server CEASE to be PUBLIC and become CLOSED.
That means, YOU can't PLAY 2238 THEN.
just imagine when someone is fishing and you tell him he is doing bad, and should quit, whenever it's his fishing rod or not, and accuse him of being noob.
Really.
no free is when you dont have to spend your money on someone project.But you don't have to spend your money, so what's the problem? I don't get it, really.
Not really, because with the fishing dude it's more like he's minding his own business in his own personal space. With 2238 it's more like a horribad rock band staging a free concert in a pub and going ballistic when people tell them they suck and start leaving after 10 minutes of listening to their crap. Oh, and they were playing your favourite Iron Maiden songs, terribly. I mean yeah, they were doing it for free and all, but hey, they said it was gonna be good and made the call to perform in front of an audience, how is it the audience's fault they don't like it and dare to say it out loud? And to make it even worse, our rock band here is telling everyone that there won't be another concert if we don't pay for new strings for Bubba's guitar cause the ones he bought with his own money snapped when he slipped while performing The Trooper.
/../
The punchline is simple - you want a friendly crowd, give a better performance.
(...)But most of all, just because you never want to hear the band again, don't hate those of us who still do. Take your rage and leave already.There's no rage dude and yeah, your analogy works too depending on the point of view and disappointment levels. The problem is things are going wrong and unfortunately it is closely linked with the donations issue - it's enough to check where this thread went to see why. My goal isn't to insult anyone because there's no point in kicking a dude who's down in the face again, I just wish people like Lexx and Jov snapped out of their delusional state and got their act together instead of bullshitting what little community they have left. If that counts as rage in your book you must be a pretty sensitive fellow.
There's no rage dude and yeah, your analogy works too depending on the point of view and disappointment levels. The problem is things are going wrong and unfortunately it is closely linked with the donations issue - it's enough to check where this thread went to see why. My goal isn't to insult anyone because there's no point in kicking a dude who's down in the face again, I just wish people like Lexx and Jov snapped out of their delusional state and got their act together instead of bullshitting what little community they have left. If that counts as rage in your book you must be a pretty sensitive fellow.My comment about rage and hatred wasn't directed towards you Nice Boat, but rather to the general atmosphere of this thread. It seems to me like this rage is so pronounced now that if you don't also hate the devs you're at risk of being hated by certain people who posted in this thread.
Im my opinion, this lack of players is related to the lack of tutorials or communication, and the behavior of players/GM which is not open to new members.I don't think it's about new players. This isn't a kind of game that gets new players every week like Battlefield Heroes. It had a stable playerbase but they left because the game became stale.
So there is no new players, or not much, and the old one get a job, wife, life, get bored or whatever, and leave slowly.
Fixing AC troll is good, but won't fix this atmosphere issue.
This game should be more newcomer friendly. So the community...
$5.00 USD from Gimper and Willy. Not much, but hey, every little bit counts.
Ah cool, I just found an old prepaid visa with 5 bucks on it. $5.00 more bucks from Gimper ;)
Why not first changelog than donate? It would be easier.They did: http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,25415.0.html and after that they politely asked for some money http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,26042.0.html so what's the problem?
so what's the problem?
I think you don't understand something, there are players who previously donated and if someone is asking for something in return, it is the same as to tell the reason why they don't want to donate anymore. For everyone who didn't donate and have considered it in past, there are two ways how to express yourself if someone wishes to do so, degrade the whole game to complete piece of shit and start insulting someone and saying that there will be no money or just a hint for some changes that would change their mind. Someone said that before, some updates would make the money flow, active topic is just a reminder for that.You seem to didn't get the point, cash is not for running out server for devs, they can run it in basement, and take out bugs in tortoise speed, but still they CAN, and cash is for fallout-likers, to play the game, eventually find some bugs and help in development(lol).
Doesn't seem very pointless to me, kid.
EDIT: If you want to destroy me verbally, I do not care, and one more thing : If you want to use argument "another dev ass licker" you found the wrong guy here.
Cash is what let the players play together, less player donate the better chances of the server running in a basement and that means any player who donates has to be interested in updates and well being of the server, it is essential to upkeep a stable population what is important for any player and for the donations themselves indirectly. If server is in a bad shape, it looses population and that is not good for anyone, donating or not.That's a lot better answer that than previous one ;D.
Requesting donation status!donation status - all money will be used for cheap wine and cheap mexicain child slaves.
donation status - all money will be used for cheap wine
Derptroll.
Now I'm off to buy beer instead of donating ;)Atleast an honest answer...
No information, no communication, no bug fix => no money.
Holy shit, why did I just read all 12 pages of this haha. This forum is more harsh than the wastes. How to know how much money is needed yet or has at least a few months already been secured?
Well as being king of the wasteland i only keep collecting payments for protecion from others and once again time has come to pay up myself, so 5 euros in, so protect me :D Also i would like to express my own opinion, and my opinion is that many features that are new are worse than old in my opinion, i would like to see more trading between players like it was before, more interaction with npc factions like it was before blue prints, and some other things also, so what i want to say, if you feel that you made wrong move, dont be afraid to do a step back, because according to einstein, sometimes it is really a big step forward :)
Also other players should keep in mind, that you DONATE NOT PAY and you DONATE not for developers developing game, but for your fuckin self so you could keep playing it. Thank you devs, and keep up the good work :)
You can take your donations and shove it, I hope server get shut down because nobody donates to your crap game.Now why would you say that?
Is it that time again? Was all the server money spent on delicious czech beer? ;)
it never was delicious czech beer but : CHEAP BOOZE AND CHEAP HOESThen I belive that you never had Czech beer before.
it never was delicious czech beer but : CHEAP BOOZE AND CHEAP HOESWell, I guess it's not so far from the truth... I've been doing some CHEAP ABOOZE lately...
CHEAP ABOOZE
polish beer is better, and chicks.
fofflineWow that's one of the most original and never before used jokes ever!
Alright, I've summed it upHmm... 49 euros huh... Well I do indeed enjoy Playing Fonline and I would indeed hate to see it get shut off for any time... So hmm we'll see what happens tomorrow. 64 bucks, hmm.
Our current balance is 28.5e, with the last payment being issued 2012-11-08.
That means I haven't yet sold my kidney, but of course we could use some income, next payment will have to be processed soon - in a week, or so (another 49e).
polish beer is better, and chicks.Yep, that true ::)
however, blame the developers of my real life 8):D
:D
You are not "developer" of your own Real Life? Hmh....sounds strange to me...
Anyway...donated 500 CZK
Keep up the good work
Well, I for one like the server empty. Its fun to play with few interruptions and if I need human interactions, there are still idlers in NCR. Plus, believe it or not, I strongly support the new updates. +1 for better mining! Donated 10 bucks, enjoy the cheap booze.Well said and it was pretty crowed in NCR to boot yesterday.
Well, I for one like the server empty. Its fun to play with few interruptions and if I need human interactions, there are still idlers in NCR. Plus, believe it or not, I strongly support the new updates. +1 for better mining! Donated 10 bucks, enjoy the cheap booze.
I also donated 10$, thanks to Rotators! ;)Thanks Senocular, we appreciate it.
Donated! ;D i really like the containers that were added recently!
Edit: Btw im encountering more new players ingame and on forum recently
They are always open. Personally I think a wipe would be bad at least until getting blueprints is reworked. In my opinion we shouldn't make people farm them again the way they are farmed now (I mean the encounter boxes). Some people, surprisingly, seem to enjoy it but I think that most people didn't.
That realization dawned quite early on you.
Yes there are such people, they are called autistic masochists in vernacular.
The diminishing xp-system was never finished, btw. The original idea was that the xp rate is resetting after x time. Though I do not know why it wasn't finished, as I was very inactive at this time.
...
you make it and we implement it.Sounds easy
They are working in game not in forum.
Wire is online like 16 hours a day.
Fear is a GM? He is not mentioned in any documents nor on wiki.Afaik fear is a moderator with "benefits" or smth like that.
8) 8) 8)You get 800$ welfare check and donate 1/4 to a dying project? :D
Wuts up devs and players love u all check it out devs I get an 800$$$$ check around the 28th this month I will donate around 200 US $ if I can THANKS for everything I know this game will thrive soon enough :)
8) 8) 8)
Wuts up devs and players love u all check it out devs I get an 800$$$$ check around the 28th this month I will donate around 200 US $ if I can THANKS for everything I know this game will thrive soon enough :)
the thriving of the game doesnt depend on the money, it thrives from fresh good ideas, that increases gameplay, adds variety to a roleplaying game, adds role you know, gives to game what you expect from it, and i dont remember anything such type from like 2010-2011, so in my opinion this game wont thrive anytime soon. it has just became wasteland itself, literally.Sigh that is sadly true.On the brightside fonline tla looks really promising, now it has gone international i see around 500 players on peak usually, very fun! and why is it fun? its because the devs take time and listen to the players ideas. simple really. the dev helped me solve a problem and that was it! done :)
You get 800$ welfare check and donate 1/4 to a dying project? :D
Yeah, but it won't change our current plans. ;)Lexx, don't forget to pack your toothbrush. I heard prices are crazy in Acapulco. :D
Yeah, but it won't change our current plans. ;)So it wont keep current 2238 up? what a shame :/