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Title: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 14, 2010, 06:07:56 pm
Can we suggest names for factions to be added in the next wipe??
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Krej on March 14, 2010, 07:46:52 pm
Why was it changed to this system anway? It's stupid..
Just let us type in our own name like before?
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Sir Hubert on March 14, 2010, 07:56:32 pm
yes I agree will be no more post on forum with problems like : Problem with faction name or cant buy a base... 99% of this problems are that faction name list isnt updated every time when someonebuy a base and take a name so peoples takeing names already taken before and they dont knew it.. Lte players make their own names !!!
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Wipe on March 14, 2010, 08:23:03 pm
I don't want to see "Best Motherf***ing Pr0 Mastah Killah on w4st3s suck my **** n00bz!!1! are taking Modoc" on my screen. Such answer was posted many times, why we go back to this?
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 14, 2010, 08:32:21 pm
Why was it changed to this system anway? It's stupid..
Just let us type in our own name like before?

It has never been like this.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Sir Hubert on March 14, 2010, 09:02:01 pm
but wipe soon good names after wipe will be taken and left only stupid names like i see now what you posted : Two-headed bears wtf is that lol ?:D Or better after 2-3 months will be generic name 1 generc name 2 so is good? so maybe base 1 base 2 base 3 and its same ...
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Sius on March 14, 2010, 09:39:49 pm
Buying base and creating gang should be cut in 2. One gang could have 4 bases but with current system its pain in the ass to keep things organized.
Simply create gang (could be done at northern towns that could be guarded by player driven factions). You get to town chief like Mo in Moddoc and tell him about you and he asks you how are you called or something and you type it in. There have to be some fee for gang creation to prevent trolling but we can't pay 15 000(?) caps just for telling people our faction name so that fee could be for some usable info in return. Or maybe each town chief will offer slightly different things to buy (since you are new gang to him) and you will simply choose what to buy from him. Faction created. When you want to buy a base it would be pretty much the same just without that faction name part.

Only problem is in faction management. So i think to do so you will have to buy gang+get base in order to access your own terminal. And in terminal you would have option to bind this terminal with your faction that will be done through request-accept/deny by gang leader and base owner.

Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Krej on March 14, 2010, 11:11:07 pm
I don't want to see "Best Motherf***ing Pr0 Mastah Killah on w4st3s suck my **** n00bz!!1! are taking Modoc" on my screen. Such answer was posted many times, why we go back to this?

In most games you can name your own clans/guilds etc and that's hardly a problem.. lol
you can make rules for how the names can be constructed, only letters and numbers etc... So what if someone names their gang r0lfzor mctorz0 the majority probably won't.. players choice..

It has never been like this.

Time to change it then?
Buying base and creating gang should be cut in 2. One gang could have 4 bases but with current system its pain in the ass to keep things organized.
Simply create gang (could be done at northern towns that could be guarded by player driven factions). You get to town chief like Mo in Moddoc and tell him about you and he asks you how are you called or something and you type it in. There have to be some fee for gang creation to prevent trolling but we can't pay 15 000(?) caps just for telling people our faction name so that fee could be for some usable info in return. Or maybe each town chief will offer slightly different things to buy (since you are new gang to him) and you will simply choose what to buy from him. Faction created. When you want to buy a base it would be pretty much the same just without that faction name part.

Only problem is in faction management. So i think to do so you will have to buy gang+get base in order to access your own terminal. And in terminal you would have option to bind this terminal with your faction that will be done through request-accept/deny by gang leader and base owner.



Sounds alot better than the current system. Creation of gang could be done in pipboy tho and still cost caps.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Sius on March 14, 2010, 11:46:09 pm
Well creation itself should take place in some dialogue with npc, but gang management should be moved from terminal into pipboy. I've suggested that loooong time ago and I think Lexx told me that it will not be so easy to execute. Anyway current terminal system is pain in the ass. Something more interactive than dialogue tree should replace it.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: ToFonikoAgouri on March 14, 2010, 11:49:07 pm
Oh, how i long for the moment that "THE TUNNEL SNAKES" are added as a usable faction name in the game...
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 15, 2010, 03:41:39 pm
So, will any GM asnwer my question? please?  :P


I don't want to see "Best Motherf***ing Pr0 Mastah Killah on w4st3s suck my **** n00bz!!1! are taking Modoc" on my screen. Such answer was posted many times, why we go back to this?
We will suggest first, then you (GMs or Devs) can agree or not.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 15, 2010, 07:39:59 pm
but wipe soon good names after wipe will be taken and left only stupid names like i see now what you posted : Two-headed bears wtf is that lol ?:D Or better

So, two-headed bear.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/f/fe/Fo2_NCR_Flag.png)


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So, will any GM asnwer my question? please?  :P

In my very own opinion, it's a no, at least for the moment. As we all know, devs are pretty busy with wipe stuff, then they'll get busy after wipe to get that stuff beter (3D etc.). Letting players able to decide of their own faction name would take some time. And - my own argument ;p - I think faction names are one of the best thing in 2238. I mean, it's really good that you only see some crazy names, properly written (The Five Points and not the five Ponit. There is like 500 names available, if you don't like one of them, well... bad luck ? =p
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Sir Hubert on March 15, 2010, 08:10:58 pm
Hi Izual :) This faction names what Wipe posted on forum is the names what will be after wipe to take?
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 15, 2010, 08:27:56 pm
In theory, yes. You can also see them here :
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Player-driven_factions
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 15, 2010, 08:41:28 pm
B-but before players could suggest, if I remember well  :-\
And imo is not that big work like you said :3
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 21, 2010, 09:51:53 pm
Once again a stupid mechanic implemented by carebears. Who cares if someone names their faction nazi penis wranglers, you almost never see the faction names anyways. It just makes getting a faction bases that much more dangerous because you have to risk taking a massive amount of caps into sometimes unguarded towns and then play a guessing game with the vendor, which usually ends up with you picking a shitty name no one else wanted.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: JovankaB on March 21, 2010, 10:44:57 pm
1.
stupid mechanic implemented by carebears

2.
It just makes getting a faction bases that much more dangerous because you have to risk taking a massive amount of caps

And who is a "carebear" here?  ::)
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 22, 2010, 04:10:04 pm
1.
2.
And who is a "carebear" here?  ::)

The people who are so afraid of seeing something offensive they fuck up the game mechanics :P
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: blahblah on March 22, 2010, 07:06:45 pm
Those people are the ones who make this game and I'm positive if they were able to do it easily no bullshit names would be allowed either as they want to keep the game falloutish even after adding multiplayer to it.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Tyler on March 22, 2010, 07:11:49 pm
Calling someone a carebear and wanting to use names like nazi penis wrangler are both pretty immature.Im glad at least the names can be regulated.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 22, 2010, 08:37:00 pm
1. No one ever sees your faction name unless you take a town, only the major gangs ever do this.

2. "Regulation" = a complete fuck up when you go to buy your base. Enjoy getting pked and robbed while typing in 50 names hoping one will work (or as happened recently, none were available so no one could buy a base).

3. Just because the devs implemented something doesn't mean it isn't stupid.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Tyler on March 22, 2010, 08:53:05 pm
Never have I died while picking a faction name.Even before they changed the rules which forced you to have a party of three to buy a base.I sweated through the process of choosing a name alone in redding as a solo player with 70k worth of hard earned caps and loved every second of it.One of the appeals of this game for me is the ever present danger of being killed and robbed.This game is not meant to be played by children and as such childish behavior like calling yourself or your gang the penis wranglers should not be tolerated.Tell me how it adds anything positive to the game and Ill be glad to agree with You.You can always buy your base in Junktown if your really worried about safety and your precious pixelated caps.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 22, 2010, 09:00:02 pm
The only bases worth having are in klamath, and to be honest I don't give two shits what my faction or any other is called. The convenience of showing up, naming yourself something you actually want and then leaving far outweighs and gains of suppressing stupid faction names. It's not like they care what you call your char and you can have that name in the stats section of everyone's char.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: RavenousRat on March 22, 2010, 09:10:03 pm
What about:
List of Avaible character's name?

-Billy
-Willy
-Dilly
-John Smith
-Mary Jane

Wtf? Total server online 5? Damn, sorry, no more names, try to register later.



Yes, you can't call your faction "****ers" or "Acolytes of *****s" or something like that, but you can name your character so, and, btw everyone will see his name (usually in red color, because adequates never call thier characters so...). So why can't you name your faction as you want? Just put some filters on EXACT bad words, so they can type ***.* or something like that, but who cares, if every player of this faction have almost the same names, and it's not restricted? You can right now register character with really-really bad word and what? GMs will ban you? No... because it'll alreay taken by someone, so you'll need to find other bad word.
Give people freedom in faction names.



Edit:
If people want to call themselves unadequate, then they're so.
Look at Battle.net Warcrafts clans, you can name your clan as you wish, and? You see there stupid silly names? No. Because what idiot want to name his clan so.
Most players will call themselves with normal faction names.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 22, 2010, 09:33:10 pm
Normal - yes. Falloutish, fun - I doubt so.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: RavenousRat on March 22, 2010, 09:43:41 pm
Normal - yes. Falloutish, fun - I doubt so.
Do we have falloutish nicknames?
A: -Hello wastelander! What's your name?
B: -KillAll2000!
A: -Nice to meet you KillAll2000! And what's your followers names?
C: -I'm I_HATE_FALLOUT
D: -And I'm SmallGunCrafter. Btw, also I'm KillAll2000 at the same time!
A: -Hmm, sorry man, I'll report to GM for dual loging! See you wastelanders!

Also, at http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=1623.0 (Available faction names) topic not all names are falloutish and fun. And btw, I think alot players will TRY to take falloutish names, except for players like "I don't know what is Fallout, I don't see any other reason to play this game, except for PvP! And I don't know why I don't want to play Counter-Strike or Quake."
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Arminius on March 22, 2010, 10:18:31 pm
Some people use the word "carebear" a lot and for everything, so much that it lost its original meaning and is now just a default insult.

In my very own opinion, it's a no, at least for the moment. As we all know, devs are pretty busy with wipe stuff, then they'll get busy after wipe to get that stuff beter (3D etc.). Letting players able to decide of their own faction name would take some time. And - my own argument ;p - I think faction names are one of the best thing in 2238. I mean, it's really good that you only see some crazy names, properly written (The Five Points and not the five Ponit. There is like 500 names available, if you don't like one of them, well... bad luck ? =p
Well surely that is a temporary measure? I myself don't want players choosing whatever gibberish they fancy, but picking up a faction name wouldn't be enough in the long run, sometimes there's a whole story behind the faction that can't be translated by the available names. While there are tons players who just want a funny reference in the name to giggle to themselves, there are plenty of players who simply can't find any of the names like what they are. To avoid this, perhaps faction names could be submitted for approval through an official mechanism in the game to a GM. That way the GM can make sure the name is coherent and can work within the Fallout Universe. Mostly he would just check the name for typos and unnecessary use of numbers and special characters. Not much against bad words myself, as long as they fit into the story of Fallout.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 24, 2010, 04:15:04 pm
Maybe, Devs could put the avaliable names as an options to choose when talking with the npc. Is annoying typing all the names hoping that none soul appears.

Something like:

• Scorp gang
• Rat Gang
• Ant gang
.
.
• Next names
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 24, 2010, 04:19:47 pm
It's quite the same thing, but the actual system is easier since you got the full (and updated) list on the wiki, so you need less time to speak with the NPC.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:20:48 pm
It's quite the same thing, but the actual system is easier since you got the full (and updated) list on the wiki, so you need less time to speak with the NPC.

still a lot of alt tabbing and copy pasting for a time when you have to be on full alert for pkers.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 24, 2010, 04:23:55 pm
Read carefully my post, list is updated - if one name is not striked, then you can take it.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:26:21 pm
Read carefully my post, list is updated - if one name is not striked, then you can take it.
Still need to minimize, it would be better if the list was in the vendors dialog and you pick the one you want like when you get a pornstar name or in the boxing ring.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 24, 2010, 04:28:31 pm
Well, just alt-tab before entering town, it doesn't takes that much time.

it would be better if the list was in the vendors dialog and you pick the one you want like when you get a pornstar name or in the boxing ring.

I doubt about it, 400 names in a list that shows at most 20 of them ? Cheesy.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:28:47 pm
"The Schroedinger Cats"

You're investing a lot of faith into the idea that anyone who is living in the Fallout universe knows what the fuck this is.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 24, 2010, 04:35:05 pm
Read carefully my post, list is updated - if one name is not striked, then you can take it.
And how many times the list will be updated? I mean, every week? Every day?
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Izual on March 24, 2010, 04:36:57 pm
Not everyday, but close to that, at least in the beginning.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: RavenousRat on March 24, 2010, 04:39:19 pm
And how many times the list will be updated? I mean, every week? Every day?
Need to make super-mega programm, which registers every newly created gang and it'll automatically strike registered names!
P.S. Just a suggestion...
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:45:09 pm
"The Schroedinger Cats"

You're investing a lot of faith into the idea that anyone who is living in the Fallout universe knows what the fuck this is.

I think most people that are at least somewhat educated would know what that is.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:48:55 pm
You expect a world where the majority of people are simple peasants, miners, raiders, drug junkies, gangsters would know of the Schrödinger's Cat project? I couldn't imagine an army with this name.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:50:30 pm
Oh you mean for rping purposes. Who cares it's just a name? It's pointless to make people conform to a "theme".
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: AxisFB on March 24, 2010, 04:51:30 pm
So why not have the faction: "Best Motherf***ing Pr0 Mastah Killah on w4st3s suck my **** n00bz!!1!"
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Roachor on March 24, 2010, 04:52:46 pm
too long?
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: blahblah on March 24, 2010, 05:01:30 pm
Still need to minimize, it would be better if the list was in the vendors dialog and you pick the one you want like when you get a pornstar name or in the boxing ring.

Pen and paper is your friend. Just write down 10 names on a piece of paper and place it on your desk. It works well for me.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: JovankaB on March 29, 2010, 11:27:32 am
"The Schroedinger Cats"

You're investing a lot of faith into the idea that anyone who is living in the Fallout universe knows what the fuck this is.

Then you don't know Fallout universe well enough. There are scientists and educated people in it.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Dark Angel on March 29, 2010, 11:30:12 am
GM ABUSE
No NRA  name . ! Gm said he add this ! -.-
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Winston Wolf on March 29, 2010, 11:35:24 am
GM ABUSE
No NRA  name . ! Gm said he add this ! -.-

Buy a dictionary, try to write a complete, meaningful sentence and stop acting like a child with your "mimimimi  :'("

I swear, sometimes it's realy helpfull to have a normal conversation with others to reach your goals...
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Wipe on March 29, 2010, 02:39:21 pm
GM can only suggest new names; keep in mind that any name can be rejected by admins for any reason.
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: _Youkai_ on March 29, 2010, 03:36:36 pm
So, we can suggest??  ;D
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: ToFonikoAgouri on March 29, 2010, 04:18:50 pm
Buy a dictionary, try to write a complete, meaningful sentence and stop acting like a child with your "mimimimi  :'("

I swear, sometimes it's realy helpfull to have a normal conversation with others to reach your goals...

>Criticizing someone else's english
>helpfuLL


 ::)
Title: Re: List of Avaliable faction's name
Post by: Odkragli on November 23, 2011, 02:21:21 am
Hi is there any name of faciton left in the list?