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Title: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 09, 2010, 08:49:58 pm
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7520/2238ncrdefence.png) (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7520/2238ncrdefence.png)


NCR's spy just reported that the Enclave (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Enclave) should attack NCR really soon, trying to destabilize the still fragile New California Republic (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/New_California_Republic). President Tandi and her generals are strongly willing to resist to the incoming assault and to defeat the Enclave's troopers. They have called for all the help possible to assist NCR's troops, and a lot of independant fighters or factions already joined. Meanwhile, Tandi decided to block the town's entrance with a few cars, making a frontal attack impossible. Now, both volunteers and army's captains are looking at the sky, waiting for the loaded vertibirds to come and to land...

FOnline: 2238 Game Masters are proud to present the first NCR Defence event ! As you see, it's a quite new event, since tactics and strategy will be required to drive back the Enclave troops. It's also a total PvE (Player versus Environment) event, and we thought it would be interesting for players that are usually enemies to work together against one enemy.

The event will take place on this Sunday (February 14th) at 19:00 GMT+1 (CET - 7PM).






The best NCR tacticians drew a plan for all the volunteers that will defend the city.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8074/battleplansmall.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9458/battleplanbig.jpg)

Rules :

Good luck, soldier. NCR is counting on you.

P.S. Further informations will be written here until Sunday.
P.P.S. This event may take some time - at least two hours - without any easy way to exit it, so avoid it if you won't be able to stay much.

Breaking news ! NCR captains just released some picture about the weapons available and their position on map, so that when it will be time to pick the ones you need, you can do it quickly.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7659/2238weaponsevent2.png) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7659/2238weaponsevent2.png)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 09, 2010, 09:06:31 pm
Shit shit shit SHIT SHIIIT SHIIT HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH FIIIINALLLLLLY!!! I love ya devs. Im surely gonna participate into this. Gotta get lvl 21 till then lol.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 09, 2010, 09:40:28 pm
huhohohohHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA........... im surely will be there
amazing pics at the start of the topic. mindblowing actually
WE WILL FIGHT THEM BACK OR WE WILL AL DIE TRYING
eheh
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Badger on February 09, 2010, 09:41:58 pm
Man you are just guaranteeing we will not get laid on Valentine's Day.

Edit: Damn, get Slim back for this. Slim Charles would be the most hilariously bad GM squad leader ever.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Sayak on February 09, 2010, 10:29:09 pm
 Hmm i can finally use my tactics skills. hmm burst will be painful here.

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7520/2238ncrdefence.png)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Vyce on February 09, 2010, 10:44:51 pm
 Is there a prefered level for this event or is eveyone good to come?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 09, 2010, 11:02:37 pm
The event is opened for everyone, but the higher level the better. Enclave troops are not pig rats.
We will see how it works out and might change it in the future (set minimun level for example) if there will be next editions of this event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Lut7ifer on February 10, 2010, 12:09:42 am
this event looks good 4 monthly event :D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: naskiel32 on February 10, 2010, 12:19:19 am
hell yea that event look sweet  8)  and i agree with  Lut7ifer  :D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Selva on February 10, 2010, 12:27:10 am
F***, really awesome Izual, i dont like pvps, but pve are great!. Surelly me and my faction will be there to kick some enclave nazis ass!.

This event will be historical.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Dorne on February 10, 2010, 12:41:54 am
sounds great. ill be there :>
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Zhucklov on February 10, 2010, 07:57:37 am
This is the time in which all of humankind, will fight no more separated as individuals for survival, a time in which no violence can occur between us wastelanders... This is the time in which all of humankind, will fight united for one cause, a time in which we will stand for what is right and ours. This is the time in which da shit will hit the fan. Lets get these Enclave scum!


 :D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Spotty on February 10, 2010, 09:19:14 am
  • Shooting at one player will automatically result in a 2 days IP ban. Don't come if you can't resist to shoot at people.

During real time combat accidents happen. A friendly decides to run in front of a guy ready to shoot his minigun.
A player might miss with his rocket and hit some friendlies.

A player might miss enclave and hit a player instead. Happens all the time.

I have been in encounters where I missed a rat (which I had 95% chance to hit) and hit my friend standing behind it instead.

I sure hope the GM's will be eble to see where its a legal friendly fire hit and a mishevious friendly fire hit. El;se we gonna be seeing alot of bans during that event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Gletcherniy on February 10, 2010, 10:00:50 am
do u forget about: "Oops! Somebody hited instead of somebody!"?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 10, 2010, 10:24:40 am
Mini gunners should try to stand in the first line, snipers behind them. Nobody will be banned for crossfire accidents, it will happen only if we will be 100% sure that someone aims and shots other players on purpose. I hope it will be possible to record the event with screen capture apps by some GMs, not only for security but also to have a video for later analyzes what can be improved in next editions (if there will be some), and maybe to make some nice movie from the event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: FischiPiSti on February 10, 2010, 03:03:24 pm
What about melee?
Im a tagged combat medic with tagged melee, and im sure i will die alot because of that.. However im not blind and a fairly good tactician, so i wont run in blindly into a suppressing fire barrage, i just ask to be carefull with teh ninjaz and pick a different target to burst if its possible ;D

BTW this movie would be the best ad for the game if it turns out to be a successfull event
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 10, 2010, 03:07:02 pm
There will be melee weapons available, like rippers and cattle prod.
Thanks for support everyone =)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Dark Angel on February 10, 2010, 03:22:50 pm
Vindicator for me please  =] . I like it =]
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 10, 2010, 03:55:58 pm
are there gonna be mega power fists for me?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: REPAIRking on February 10, 2010, 04:22:50 pm
Can i stand in the 1st line of defense?  ;D
This event looks funny.  I need LSW  please ;D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 10, 2010, 05:02:33 pm
Damn, we gotta support the devs and hope they 'hit' the attacking NPC count/skill perfectly - meaning, they dont spawn them too much so its just meatwar or vice-versa. I guess that'l be hard. Also, i hope it wont be a pure enclave SPAWN AND RUSH DEM PLAYERS event like it happened in second warzone. Instead, i hope GMs will make them use some tactics like going around n stuff..
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 10, 2010, 05:09:23 pm
By the way, just a lil suggestion - it would be more interesting if when the players are on second/third line of defence, would it be possible to make the enclaves like ''blow trough'' a wall, and make a little secret entry point, from where they would keep pouring in until some players secure it?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 10, 2010, 06:19:29 pm
would make it a whole of a lot more interesting than the regular stuff...
Save a p90c for me please
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Badger on February 10, 2010, 06:31:01 pm
Manly mode. Brass knuckles only.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 10, 2010, 06:39:46 pm
no, the manly mode is bluesuit, no equip and a warcry.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Giemz on February 10, 2010, 09:38:59 pm
This is NCR!!!

All in all, love the idea, hate the timing ;/
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: STONEBALLS on February 10, 2010, 10:39:04 pm
sorry but ill be busy having fun with my slaver girlfriend from den...   good luck to everyone there))))
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: PsYcHo on February 11, 2010, 03:53:20 am
i am going to lure my own team into dark allie's and kill them MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA j/k
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 11, 2010, 04:27:26 am
I will talk them to death, the speech skill is so uber!!!11


Wait, no.

Suggestion: I want a tongue of steel!   :P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 11, 2010, 08:49:39 am
why not silver?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 11, 2010, 09:05:43 am
Stupid one! Everyone knows for sure there is just  a bit of iron ore hiding in the rocks of california. No silver/gold/platin for sure!  :P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Zeck on February 11, 2010, 09:46:37 am
sounds very cool.
and hard to organize, good luck to game masters with this.
And thanks for your work and dedication.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 11, 2010, 10:51:29 am
will any ncr rangers e present?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 11, 2010, 11:15:36 am
There will be no NPC except Tandi, her bodyguard and of course the Enclave troopers.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 11, 2010, 11:27:29 am
thank god for that, i'm not on good terms with the rangers.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Pozzo on February 11, 2010, 12:41:37 pm
Good job devs !

I have 2 questions :

- How will you provide enough stuff for everybody ? I mean all players will be shouting and asking to MJs to have stuff... How will it happen ?
- What about death ? When we die we just try to come back on the town ? Or maybe we respawn in the town ? Or is it game over ?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Opera on February 11, 2010, 01:00:58 pm
Good job devs !

I have 2 questions :

- How will you provide enough stuff for everybody ? I mean all players will be shouting and asking to MJs to have stuff... How will it happen ?
- What about death ? When we die we just try to come back on the town ? Or maybe we respawn in the town ? Or is it game over ?

Respawn is in the NCR. Look at the "battleplan". :)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Gruik on February 11, 2010, 01:59:23 pm
Woaw, awesome event. I'll be there on Sunday, Enclave troopers will taste at my justice ! And I've 30 rounds of justice in my Light Support Weapon. C'mon evils, we'll show you how we can defend this town !
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Pozzo on February 11, 2010, 02:37:57 pm
Quote
Respawn is in the NCR. Look at the "battleplan".

Ok thank you Opera, I think I didn't notice that.

Well, I'll be there with my sniper char, shooting at long range in the NCR streets ^^
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Dorne on February 11, 2010, 03:09:16 pm
What weapons can we expect?

and my Girl is ganna hate me for joining this event and not doing something with her  :-[
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Kyle on February 11, 2010, 03:14:55 pm
Woah.

What a nice surpris! Looks preety cool. I wish to all organizators good luck. For the rest : Rangers lead the way! Hooah!  8)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 11, 2010, 03:28:45 pm
As the Enclave invasion gets closer everyday, the NCR captains are busy with their men around the first line of defence...

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1425/2238screen2.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1425/2238screen2.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4042/2238screen1.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4042/2238screen1.jpg)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 11, 2010, 05:06:25 pm
As the Enclave invasion gets closer everyday, the NCR captains are busy with their men around the first line of defence...

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1425/2238screen2.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1425/2238screen2.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4042/2238screen1.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4042/2238screen1.jpg)
You made some defensive trenches and gullies, will you make some mass graves for us?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 11, 2010, 05:44:31 pm
Mass graves will be for Enclave, soldier!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: REPAIRking on February 11, 2010, 05:46:41 pm
LOOK what i got !!!  ;D

(http://img402.yfrog.com/img402/4949/screen11022010173546.jpg)(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3568/ncrneedyou.jpg)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Fewer on February 11, 2010, 06:36:31 pm
I have got question what if somebody take lockpicker and take the car?? Will be some safety measures?? I dont wanna be killed by enclaves mobilized unit.
Sorry for anglish ;D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 11, 2010, 06:40:53 pm
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7730/unclencr.jpg)
Full size: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7730/unclencr.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7730/unclencr.jpg)

I imagine seeing these everywhere in southern towns, especially NCR  :)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 11, 2010, 06:47:09 pm
This looks quite nice, thank you Quentin !
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 11, 2010, 07:03:30 pm
This looks quite nice, thank you Quentin !
Hey, thanks. Glad someone likes it.  ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Selva on February 11, 2010, 07:16:33 pm
Silver is better, your tongue then will spit fire.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 11, 2010, 07:58:27 pm
I have got question what if somebody take lockpicker and take the car?? Will be some safety measures?? I dont wanna be killed by enclaves mobilized unit.
Sorry for anglish ;D


The battle will take place in exact copy of NCR located on island. If you steal a car and leave the city, there is nowhere to go, unless you can steal a ship too. If you lockpick a car and leave the town, you might be left on the island forever... :>
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Vyce on February 11, 2010, 08:14:13 pm
LOL Nice!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Новичок on February 12, 2010, 10:44:23 am
What about people living in the time zone GMT +6? Or else?
I took the contract, but can not participate. It too late!
Maybe next time you will make several events at different times?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 12, 2010, 10:46:05 am
We changed the event hour from 20:00 to 19:00 (7 PM), since teleporting the players may take some time.

Edit : About the time, yes, we'll see what we can do for next events.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: TuX on February 12, 2010, 11:01:36 am
This has the all potential to be the abso-fuckin-lutely the best event in fonline. Hope I can do my part in that epic battle for the american soil.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: HerrKaputt on February 12, 2010, 11:48:46 am
I'd like some more information about loot.

What happens to the items after the event:

- The stuff that was given to us at the start, will it disappear afterwards or can we keep it?
- The stuff we loot from dead players and/or downed Enclave troopers, same question?

Thanks for organizing this event, I'll try to negotiate with my girlfriend to attend. Poor choice of timing BTW.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 12, 2010, 11:52:09 am
You will need to die to exit the NCR copy location, in the end, so you won't be able to keep the stuff you loot there.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 12, 2010, 12:21:11 pm
well ive not been playing this game long but im loving this event being set up and its not even started
how good am i going to be though as im low level and my shooting stats aren't brilliant 85 on small guns right now but then im 50 on doctor so i can be of use somewhat :D

looking forward to any help i can give :D just hope i can live long enough to of use LOL

ive read about recieving weapons/armour for the event do you keep after its over or is it just a case of equiping you out fully so you can go kill enclave for NCR survival?

and the last question how you organising the ending? is it timed or are there going to be a certain number of enclave troops once all dead game over?

am really new after reading the wiki a little bit LOL
can i take part being lvl 4 and well looks like im pretty useless?

Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 12, 2010, 12:44:24 pm
kinda sucks that we won't get a promo item for participating...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 12, 2010, 01:09:06 pm
what about the xp you get for kills and stuff im assuming you keep that but still worth asking about??
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 12, 2010, 02:05:24 pm
damn, it's gonna be exciting, can't wait till sunday!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 12, 2010, 02:09:49 pm
Geesh, what the hell are you, people, thinking with. Keeping the looted stuff of an full-scale totally-epic combat event? And a promo item for participating...? Man, you get an epic event of epic proportions, and it still aint enough for you? Greedy bastards.
Thus, the timing is fine. I'd say 90% players are in timezones 0 to +3. If the event starts in 19:00 (+1), meaning the total majority of players get to play the event from 18:00 to 21:00. If it lasts for maximum 2 hours, then it ends on 20:00 to 23:00. Well, i guess average, normal people that aint 9 y/o kiddies are awake then.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: LeMark on February 12, 2010, 02:50:25 pm
Geesh, what the hell are you, people, thinking with. Keeping the looted stuff of an full-scale totally-epic combat event? And a promo item for participating...? Man, you get an epic event of epic proportions, and it still aint enough for you? Greedy bastards.

+1

Stop asking question guys, just enjoys the event when he will happen!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 12, 2010, 10:28:11 pm
Speaking of enjoying ; NCR captains just released some picture about the weapons available and their position on map, so that when it will be time to pick the ones you need, you can do it quickly.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7659/2238weaponsevent2.png) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7659/2238weaponsevent2.png)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: bipboy on February 12, 2010, 10:52:02 pm
I assume the number of weapons is unlimited so that we don't fight bare hands
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: crunchtag on February 12, 2010, 10:52:32 pm
Can we please get some Super Sledges in addition to the rippers and cattle prods?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 12, 2010, 10:55:06 pm
Supersledges are, imho, too much powerful, so I don't think we will add some.

I assume the number of weapons is unlimited so that we don't fight bare hands
Not really, but there are really enough weapons. If a weapon stock depletes, you'll have to go on the battlefield and search for one, but this won't happen, or will happen really late during the event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Crazy on February 12, 2010, 11:12:37 pm
And what about drugs?  ;D
Fighter are better with military drugs! (and recreative drugs too ;p who sqid jet?)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Richard Grey on February 12, 2010, 11:22:40 pm
Yeah, with two hits of psycho and some tesla armor, i'd be impervious to harm! (For a little while, anyways.)

So, you just show up prior to the event to participate?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 12, 2010, 11:45:36 pm
where's power fist?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 13, 2010, 10:43:51 am
No drugs, no stimpacks, that's why you'll need doctors ! =)


So, you just show up prior to the event to participate?
Yes. Further informations will be displayed before the event, like at 18:30 (6 PM)...

And there's no power fists ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 13, 2010, 02:35:21 pm
And radios were put in the radio locker !

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8995/2238eventradio.png) (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8995/2238eventradio.png)

They are all set to the same channel, so you just have to pick it up ! Since all the players will be in different places, we thought it would be good to make them able to communicate.
See the radio (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Radio) page on wiki for more informations about how to one.

Speak in the radio...

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2662/2238radio1.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2662/2238radio1.jpg)

And your mates will answer !

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5837/2238radio2.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5837/2238radio2.jpg)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Stachi on February 13, 2010, 03:22:03 pm
Mega Power Fists please.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 13, 2010, 04:38:26 pm
What will you do if the people rather shoot each other (I can see this coming) than slaying these enclave troops?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 13, 2010, 04:55:18 pm
massive multiban
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 13, 2010, 04:55:52 pm
massive multiban
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 13, 2010, 09:21:35 pm
there are cattle prods and rippers and no power fists lol, have fun then :)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 13, 2010, 09:48:04 pm
i will be cattle proding the enslave into their pends ready for the slaughter HAHAHAHAHAHA

got me a brand new character due to the old 1 being useless (badly formed form the start) i wonder if im actually going to be able to use stuff there like armour and what not
lvl 2 is poor but im levling fast enough i think created this morning and already lvl 2 :D

took me 4 days to get to lvl 4 im hoping to double my level in that time :D:D

and ive not noticed it mentioned anywhere if you just turn up for the event or do you have to sign up for it??
sorry if this has been answered already but ive not noticed it answered anywhere so im asking (please don't hate me for being a noob! :D)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 13, 2010, 10:52:58 pm
you don't need to sign up, everyone can come. Just be around NCR around 19:00 PM CET and wait for a message. We were giving "army contracts" but these are just gadgets, you dont really need it to fight.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: metzger777 on February 14, 2010, 07:59:43 am
to hell with my gf, im opening hte bottle of wine in the honors of this event. see u in opening
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 14, 2010, 10:01:58 am
excellent and as im single right now ive got free time on my hands for this game so can be here for the entire event im loving it already managed to lvl up to lvl 4 from 1 in a day am hoping i can lvl more today before the event!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Stachi on February 14, 2010, 12:10:11 pm
HtH fighters from New Reno's fighting club have one little request. Give us power fists. :)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 14, 2010, 03:37:22 pm
HtH fighters from New Reno's fighting club have one little request. Give us power fists. :)
I think they've forgotten about unarmed chars..
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 03:47:05 pm
We don't want Unarmed to be meat, first line targets. They have plenty of hit points, it is enough. If they have, plus, a strong weapon, they'll kill every Enclave soldier ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: naskiel32 on February 14, 2010, 04:32:59 pm
as for some kind of revard why dont u make somthing in karma u know lets name it like:  "NCR defender" or something   -  " u ben part of NCR defence so now when u kill a Enclave soldiers u alweys fell better" u know that would DO NOTHING  but u got it in karma as reward  ;D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: UbiValkin on February 14, 2010, 05:01:02 pm
If a member of Enclave (player) will kill some Enclave troopers, will it affect his karma negative for Enclave?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 14, 2010, 05:04:39 pm
If a member of Enclave (player) will kill some Enclave troopers, will it affect his karma negative for Enclave?


no, it won't affect your reputation because Enclave will be mercenaries only.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 14, 2010, 05:17:58 pm
We don't want Unarmed to be meat, first line targets. They have plenty of hit points, it is enough. If they have, plus, a strong weapon, they'll kill every Enclave soldier ;)
melee chars have very similar builds, I don't see any reason in favouring them..
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Selva on February 14, 2010, 05:41:06 pm
A NCR Defender sign im my karma would be like a medal hehe.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: maszrum on February 14, 2010, 05:42:15 pm
enclave will raid ncr only in apa, or regular armros as well ? :
what aobut cigarets, nuka, cookies, ..jet ? i must bring my supplies ?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 05:48:48 pm
Come naked, you will die to enter NCR copy, and die to leave it anyway ;p

For the karma sign, it would have been good, but it's too late now =p
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 14, 2010, 05:52:00 pm
ok so unarmed chars are gonna be useless on this event, right?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 14, 2010, 05:58:32 pm
come naked, everyone will be killed before event will start to prevent some stupid ideas

I will spawn some drugs,
Enclave will be in APAs, they are very strong so come with best fighting chars you have
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 14, 2010, 05:59:07 pm
1 hour or 2 hours left till event?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: UbiValkin on February 14, 2010, 05:59:29 pm
1 hour or 2 hours left till event?

One.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 14, 2010, 06:01:16 pm
ok so unarmed chars are gonna be useless on this event, right?
please answer me, I don't know which char should I pick ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 14, 2010, 06:06:34 pm
I will add A FEW power fists, but only a few. Unarmed chars will risk to be killed by friendly fire, will lower others aiming so we dont want to many.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: zubrowka on February 14, 2010, 06:09:04 pm
thanks
new reno hth guysuse them reasonably, please! they're worth more than pure water!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: naskiel32 on February 14, 2010, 06:20:55 pm
can u make a countdown with when will event be in game plis? like u make with town control ?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: maszrum on February 14, 2010, 06:31:18 pm
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Enclave will be in APAs, they are very strong so come with best fighting chars you have

ok i will brin my 7th level sniper.. unles.. tandi will reward best enclave killers :>
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
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Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 14, 2010, 07:01:33 pm
well so far the meeting place has been super laggy and people seem to be stuck LOL (maybe a double door for the fatter 1's like me to fit through?)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:05:12 pm
The event hasn't even started and there so much stupidness around.  :o
Priceless.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: naskiel32 on February 14, 2010, 07:13:36 pm
wtf people are stuck in death pit  O.o
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 14, 2010, 07:26:57 pm
priceless lol wish i had not bothered now just being killed by players every 1 second LOL and this was supposed to be players vrs what exactly lol

still nice to see which 1 can hit me before i manage to move anywhere!

now im ported people still getting blown to pieces LOL

i think for future events maybe having line up although annoying if you can restict movement as you did to have all killed then you can 'funnel' people to where they need to be mych like cattle so collecting gear etc might be slightly faster just a thought on that 1!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Candy on February 14, 2010, 07:29:50 pm
event made the server lag to the point where it became unplayable
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:31:18 pm
It's a mess. As I said before, it will be slaughtering between the players.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 14, 2010, 07:34:16 pm
another idea for future events have the staged on dif maps like the parts of some towns are!

split the players between the maps little less laggy (id hope) and less people to block each other lol
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:37:20 pm
Wow. Now I'm back on the worldmap, in the middle of nowhere. Awesome.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 07:38:13 pm
another idea for future events have the staged on dif maps like the parts of some towns are!

split the players between the maps little less laggy (id hope) and less people to block each other lol
OR just make it lvl 11+ or lvl 21. That would be the best to do. 60% of the players anyway are lvl 4> nabs.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:41:39 pm
Wasted ti Great event.

Good luck to the people in the warzone.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: metzger777 on February 14, 2010, 07:42:32 pm
SHAMEFULL really, we got kicked even though we were standg away from the gun and armor mobs, oh well,

btw next time we need muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch more space for players, muuuuuuuuuuuuuch

salute to the team for their efforts.

oh well tv time for me ;P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 14, 2010, 07:44:23 pm
another idea for future events have the staged on dif maps like the parts of some towns are!

split the players between the maps little less laggy (id hope) and less people to block each other lol

or just make it a LOT bigger not that really small narrow place...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: ChikChik on February 14, 2010, 07:46:54 pm
Next time you don't need to scream on the whole wasteland "dont forget about event", if you kill superfluous people all the time, then teleport them to wasteland !
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 14, 2010, 07:47:20 pm
yeah would be for you but then if all events were at that lvl why would new players want to keep joining the game?? no incentive there new players are killed instantly by HIGHER lvl players as it is so having a chance to join an event where you could potentially lvl up fairly well compared to the alternative trying to lvl up on world map and being killed by players who chance upon you

oh and real nice been looking forward to this all day now im booted cos someone decided to blow me up and im dead i SERIOUSLY hope the next event (if there is 1) is better organised or at least better prepared for players swamping it and all who would like and are able to attend get the chance not just those who manage to get guns first and are not killed

well i hope all those in the warzone have fun now and GL NCR defenders as for me i think ill go rent a movie now
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 14, 2010, 07:47:26 pm
well, this totally blew bigtime... got to the event, got my ca, fn fal, and radio, and guess what, some asshole came up to me with a minigun while i was walking to the front and blasted my head off, and to think i actually looke forward to the event, this totally sucked bigtime, bloody assholes, and guess what, i got kicked from the event after dying in the equipment allocated to me... that just proves it, fonline is best when avoiding players, what were you thinking gms, this was a total waste of your resources, assholes will stay assholes no matter the conditions... not to look like a ranting asshole, i would have enjoyed the event if i had been allowed to participate.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 07:47:47 pm
Alright, guess the events starting soon. Lets hope its good, most of naggers have left and theres no more lags.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Giemz on February 14, 2010, 07:49:48 pm
Great event... shitload of lag, death by exploding teleport and back to wasteland... weakened to kick in the balls even harder
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Selva on February 14, 2010, 07:51:58 pm
My friends managed to get to the front.

Im not, when i was grabing my weapons, i got exploded than teleported to nowhere.

As always, some retards players fuck it up!.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 14, 2010, 07:52:35 pm
maybe next time, only allow the articulate people to join in the fun?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: RestarT on February 14, 2010, 07:53:06 pm
LOL, what the f*ck was that?
This should be good event? This is absolutely F*CKED event...
I was killed, when I was trying to take some stuff and some f*cker killed me. It thrown me to NCR and event ended for me, nice work admins.
It would be better that you will fix bugs, like bonus rate of fire and stop doing stupid events.
There was so much lags, that I can't take any equip from ground.
Banning PK's? Admins was doing nothing, people were killng all bluesuits. Admins were staying and looking to corpses.

THIS EVENT IS F*CKED UP WASTE OF TIME!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: metzger777 on February 14, 2010, 07:54:16 pm
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Alright, guess the events starting soon. Lets hope its good, most of naggers have left and theres no more lags

lol, thanks man, aprreciate the info, ill go on the even then, oh  wait, we qualified as naggers me and few others who waited till last to enter the event, gave the crowd plenty time to clear, then waited by the walls in ncr chatting got blasted by rocket before picking up weapons which we did not intend to, we were planning to just walkout then scavenge weapons at the first line of defence, naggers, thank u very very much.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:56:07 pm
The thing I don't understand is - why didn't you see this coming? It was pretty much predictable because of so many dumb players who like to destroy such events.
I'm sure this was a hell lot of work, why didn't you think about that?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 07:56:31 pm
God, i love the forum whiners..
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 07:58:31 pm
Shouldn't you be on the battlefield, soldier?  :P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 08:00:34 pm
Shouldn't you be on the battlefield, soldier?  :P
Lang to Solar: We currently establishing alt-tab. Lang out.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: metzger777 on February 14, 2010, 08:01:01 pm
i dont like one bit , genetically retarded people who from theire retardness laugh at others who are much better than them, thats it.

time for baccardi, night time tv, work tomorrow.

bonne nuit les enfants
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 14, 2010, 08:03:40 pm
hmm, now to get piss drunk and hit my girlfriands place, hope she doesn't mind.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 08:04:57 pm
They better should have done a love event, since it's valentines day today... :D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: caasi on February 14, 2010, 08:07:47 pm
Wow. Now I'm back on the worldmap, in the middle of nowhere. Awesome.
Me too, I am killed in the mass, and after some respawning in the event NCR and some disconnection from the server,
I'm back to the normal respawning point, and nerver get back to the event :-(
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 14, 2010, 08:09:39 pm
exactly, the enclave comes and gives out flowers and miss kitty slaves, that would have been awesome, now, collectors edition slaves, tomorrow, free cyberdogs, and the next day free hubologist skins  :-*.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 08:10:11 pm
Quote from: Izual
# Shooting at one player will automatically result in a 2 days IP ban. Don't come if you can't resist to shoot at people.

Guess the server's emtpy for two days now.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Badger on February 14, 2010, 08:10:40 pm
Wow, that's a damn shame, I didn't go but I was at least optimistic. Too bad. The phrase 'Couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery' comes to mind, though. Good luck for next time.

Edit: Or a food fight in a cafeteria.

Edit: Or an orgy in a brothel.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Lil Jesus on February 14, 2010, 08:12:42 pm
They better should have done a love event, since it's valentines day today... :D

indeed, free (1 for each) whores for everyone... as a valentine day's gift with 80 Hit Points and all kind of condoms, (green, red, blue, yyellow?)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Ari Lazarus on February 14, 2010, 08:13:14 pm
In my case, after getting killed a million times in the turret trap and being transported to the exploding jail cell, we got teleported to the NCR copy area entrance. Some people had gotten hold of armour and weaponry and were mowing down bluesuits as we ran past them.

I died a few times this way, not seeing where my body went. I relogged and found out I was in a really tight space with all the other people. There were two boxes I could see which contained the ammo and weaponry and armour, and a 1-hex exit out of there into the greater compound area. Needless to say, PKers started blowing people up, and the idiots at the entrance weren't moving until Aldo got the great idea of burstfiring his minigun on anyone who was pausing at the entrance.

Then the admins decided to kick roughly half of the 250 players or so gathered out of the event by removing the respawn point at the map and rocketing random people. Guess which law-abiding player got kicked out while PKers roamed the event?

That was fun, if by fun you meant a colossal waste of time.

Here are a few suggestions to improve the event the next time you think of something like this.

- Allow multiple entry points into the event. I.e. at different cities instead of all piling into one area.

- Organize people into smaller teams or squads. People will feel a greater affiliation which each other and be less likely to blow themselves up. It is also easier to control in a general sense.

- Have multiple spawn points with multiple exits so people can arm themselves quickly and easily.

- Totally disable or autoban firing when the target is another player, while within the event area.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 14, 2010, 08:13:48 pm
maybe have 3 different events, one for the articulate, and one for the assholes next time, a heaven hell kinda thing, punishing the bad guys and rewarding us intelligent players who like to enjoy the game without the neccesary bluesuit slaughtering.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Giemz on February 14, 2010, 08:24:34 pm
Ah well. At least I hope that GMs will watch closely the logs and ban those pricks having fun mutilating people in the crowd. If not then I guess this will be the last dissapointment.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 14, 2010, 08:25:07 pm
maybe have 3 different events, one for the articulate, and one for the assholes next time, a heaven hell kinda thing, punishing the bad guys and rewarding us intelligent players who like to enjoy the game without the neccesary bluesuit slaughtering.

well, it could have been better even if they had removed combat option for the time the event started...
or whoever got his wepon, would have been teleported to the front...
this was a big mistake from both the pkers and the admins

oh.. and a 2 day ban is just really low, a month would be decent... when will the next event take place? 1 week? 2? still who pked will be able to come and ruin the thing, and also, they dont give a f**k if they are banned for 2 days
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: REPAIRking on February 14, 2010, 08:25:35 pm
THIS WAS THE BEST EVENT EVER !!!  ;D

- I died 52 times.
- I saw lot of LVL 1 NOOB whit 34 HP-42HP (they are maybe  immortal!!! LOL)  :o
- I saw LVL 1 NOOB loot 4 COMBAT ARMOR and run out. I dont know why!  ::) LOL

IT WAS VERY GOOD EVENT!!!!! REAL !!   ;D

Some ideas for the future:

- only high lvl players come to Defence!! (LVL: 15-21)
- KILL ALL FUCKING PK!!!!!!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: UbiValkin on February 14, 2010, 08:27:09 pm
Lagging, doing a shot, lagging, staying... staying... disconnecting. And then again.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Selva on February 14, 2010, 08:29:00 pm
1.Overcrowded, i thinks devs didnt expect too many players.
2.Missing GMs to better organization, mostly players cant do that by themselves.
3.Retarded people that loves to screws events like that.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Roachor on February 14, 2010, 08:29:57 pm
damn I miss all the fun
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Dark Angel on February 14, 2010, 08:30:43 pm
i waste 60 rocket and lot of 223 , i died one time on crash. bad time on start. BUT NICE ON FIGHT
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Richard Grey on February 14, 2010, 08:32:23 pm
I can't log in... Have i been banned?

I seem to recall being ordered to attack bluesuits. Sorry about the confusion.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 08:32:32 pm
Pretty much the event itself was fine, what was the problem, is the people. At the beggining of the event, there were simply waaaay too much people. It was the same during the event, but atleast not that much. I guess my suggestion is to set a lvl cap for the event - lvl 15+ or smth. That way it wont be that ovecrowded, thus its obvious lvl 15 player is more valuable than lvl 1, wich, i guess, was 80% of the event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: vedaras on February 14, 2010, 08:32:45 pm
event was good till server crash :D still a little bit too much blocking, so weapons could be put in larger open space :>
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 08:33:15 pm
Yeah, we had to teleport away some people - randomly, sorry - due to severe lag. I think almost 50 players were kicked out and maybe 200 remained. So yeah, it's rather unfair, but it was either this or the cancelling of the event.
And I think this majority of players that stayed had fun, until the server crashed.

So, the main problem ? Lag. Second problem ? Too much people. Well we can't do anything about first problem, and we can fix second easily. So that's a good point, in fact.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 08:35:01 pm
Seriously, didn't you expect so many people, when announcing the event days ago?  ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: devilseyes on February 14, 2010, 08:35:48 pm
I like it  ;) , certainly first time is never the best . Lowering the number of players in the event is a good idea ;D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Breeze66 on February 14, 2010, 08:36:32 pm
"Great" event!!

Instead of punishing PKs for killing people, you punished innocent players by killing them in the armory and kicking them out of event...You should rather cancel it, than kick us out, thank you very much for fu**ed up Sunday evening...
And dont forget to write about next event whole week and f**k it this way again, thank you...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 08:37:45 pm
Well, really, the event was fine. Actually it was pretty cool for the first time. There is lot to improve as, i have no doubt, theres gonna be alot suggestions. But for now, really, id rather not see 200 players on 20x20 hex location. God, 100 would be too much. 50 would be cool. Like 50 players, elite ones, lvl 15 or 18+ or smth like that.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 14, 2010, 08:38:28 pm

So, the main problem ? Lag. Second problem ? Too much people. Well we can't do anything about first problem, and we can fix second easily. So that's a good point, in fact.

why cant you do anything about the server problem? cant hire a fast connection server? when will it be back online again? will you only ban the pkers for 2 days? thats really no-time...
there are really much servers of mmorpgs around which are private and still can hold up to 1000 players without any lags...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: FischiPiSti on February 14, 2010, 08:39:17 pm
Cant fix the lag?
How about getting a faster server? :P
Hmm i have an idea: All the banned, jailed etc players can "buy" their freedom in the form of a donation. A BIG one ;D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: devilseyes on February 14, 2010, 08:41:23 pm
why cant you do anything about the server problem? cant hire a fast connection server? when will it be back online again? will you only ban the pkers for 2 days? thats really no-time...
there are really much servers of mmorpgs around which are private and still can hold up to 1000 players without any lags...
the thing which everyone all knew, why ask ?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Tennessee on February 14, 2010, 08:41:35 pm
Hope everyone learned a valuable lesson here. This vision of all wasteland dwellers coming together for unity and cooperation against a non-player foe was destined for epic failure from the start. There can be no universal cooperation or unity in the wasteland. The only kind of cooperation that can work is in closeknit groups of manageable size in competition with one another. The only other alternative is total anarchy and the war of each against all.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Mystyr on February 14, 2010, 08:43:54 pm
I think that good thing against PKers will be banning them from next events.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: ProKilleR on February 14, 2010, 08:45:04 pm
aaah, i die 2 times and admins port me . This is baaaad.... :'(
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: vedaras on February 14, 2010, 08:45:37 pm
why cant you do anything about the server problem? cant hire a fast connection server? when will it be back online again? will you only ban the pkers for 2 days? thats really no-time...
there are really much servers of mmorpgs around which are private and still can hold up to 1000 players without any lags...

did you donate?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Richard Grey on February 14, 2010, 08:46:09 pm
Great... Now i'm outside NCR.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: El Riko on February 14, 2010, 08:48:12 pm
Cool, I spent an hour for nothing. I was killed many times, then admins kicked me  :P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: ProKilleR on February 14, 2010, 08:48:55 pm
Lol , admins : You must do another event but that event must be better .
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: DarXiDe on February 14, 2010, 08:50:16 pm
did you donate?
does it change anything if i did
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Alvarez on February 14, 2010, 08:51:48 pm
The event is over for me. The server is down.

Exploding pits of hell? Maybe you selected people that way, okay.

Next: massive friendly fire. Great. We were misunderstood for the Enclave. How wicked, hell yeah Private Ryan.

Next: over 9000 bluesuits standing to get some weapons. I yelled to get weapons and make room, probably many thought that Enclave is already in inner yard. Do you want to live forever?

Radio check: Nobody fucking used it, except for some smart NA reporting the status.

Slow advance towards North: then, ENCLAVE RUSH from the west! Fucking cars obscured the firing range, so only 2 people out of two dozens were able to give a pair of shots before mowed down by the Enclave.

Get killed: respawn waiting+ weakened status: OH HOW FUCKING CLEVER. ALL HAIL OUR NEW ENCLAVE OVERLORDS!

I couldn't even get HP to get back in battle! Stimpaks? Who the fuck need them? Doctor in NCR is useless. Also,  no MFC at all, lying weapons are stripped of ammo.

3Third try with 10 HP. Server down. Feierabend.

Teleporting at Den.

The event was a huge FAIL
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 08:53:57 pm
Maybe it's better to improve the game first then making such events?  :-\
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 08:55:54 pm
To all those asking us to buy a better server, we haven't more money than you, so feel free to donate ;) Anyway, problem is not about the server. All this is described in that thread (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=768.0).
So yeah, all the posts I read is about lags and crowd ; which can be improved. No big deal there.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: HawK-EyE on February 14, 2010, 08:59:34 pm
One of the best event ever made, it's sad that some of us couldn't make it. Nice fight and really tough battles happen there. We managed to get a lot of kills, some of use was one of the last mens standing near Tandi. Anyway, this was a very good idea, great job guys, i really look forward getting more of these later on. :)

Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Bartosz on February 14, 2010, 09:01:48 pm
To all of you talking about things you've no idea about:

1) Faster connection?? How many times we were repeating that performance issues are of the application itself, needs to be optimized, period. No better server would help.

2) Fix game instead of organizing events? The GMs are not responsible for fixing game, why not letting them try to make some events?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: MaximusFartimus on February 14, 2010, 09:02:51 pm
Apart from the lag and the damn chokepoint on the begining it was quite fun event. Hopefully creators will continue to improve game and host some more such events.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Alvarez on February 14, 2010, 09:06:44 pm
Get some preliminar skirmishes to sort people out, who can be invited for the final round. Being kicked out for nothing really sucked.

I thought initially you were doing the sorting out on NCR spawnpoint and in deathtraps.

Ah, deathtraps. Did you had fun?

And hey, we're not supposed to be annoyed! We're only betatesters, right?
Thank you for this meaningful evening.

And guys, if you seriously want to hear something productive: discuss, how a map for such events should look.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: FischiPiSti on February 14, 2010, 09:09:06 pm
I dont get it why are you people so furious btw.

Ive been in a few beta tests before and believe me this event was a glorious stress test event compared to some.
Like the end of lotro beta event, omg....... Here you only need to worry about the server crashing, but there, the whole pc locks up after like 5 seconds of logging on, and only hard reset helps.

The GMs did a fine job of stripping people down to bluesuits(the pit of doom), and the frontline looked organised too.
There were only 2 main problems: Doc and FA skill having way to much cd -> useless
The armor/weapon "distribution" was a big mistake. Too little space, the ground wasnt even visible, small space, everyone stuffing their backpack with 5 different weapons, not mention the tiny little space for us, ammo was hard to find(use backpack->drag ammo to inv-> take ALL), not to mention the lack of space, then squizing through the door, did i mention the spawning area was not big enough?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 09:12:16 pm
Yup, agreeing. Spawning area and stuff area, being not designed for that much people, were not enough large. We will fix that for next event, and maybe put all the stuff in lockers, or maybe set different weaponry.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Alvarez on February 14, 2010, 09:13:12 pm
Why not using Westin's ranch next time? Get the local doc to heal for free during the crisis. Get respawning stuff in the lockers.

Also, i'm fucking enraged, so may we storm Navarro next time?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Karko on February 14, 2010, 09:14:38 pm
Things to make better:


For GM's and event organizers:

- Supervise the event so you can take care of the possible PK's and blockers right away. Ban the wrong doers.
- Remove the cars or choose a wider battlegrould with cover. Enough room to shoot tho, unlike half-blocked ncr streets

For players:

- Move the **** out of your way instead of standing there like a dumbass with a boner. Either go to where you wanted to or get out of other's way
- For real, check your targets, and dont come here to ruin the event for the others and PK / respawn-rape
- DO NOT TAKE MORE AMMO THAN YOU NEED. You really think you can use all that 18.000 ammo without dying before you used it all? Take only what you need, more like 500 or so should be more than enough.
- Think about your fellow players, offer help and dont be greedy.
- Do not spam the chat, it helps no one, its just annoying everyone.

That'll be all.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 14, 2010, 09:16:44 pm
Why not using Westin's ranch next time? Get the local doc to heal for free during the crisis. Get respawning stuff in the lockers.

Also, i'm fucking enraged, so may we storm Navarro next time?
1. mIRC
2. /join #2238rage
3. RAGE! BLOOD, GORE, DEATH
4. Profit!!
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Kinkin on February 14, 2010, 09:20:47 pm
Excellent event !

A bit of lag, but the next one will better :)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 14, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
Wait, Westin's ranch makes sense actually. We'll think about it. Problem is the locked gate.

Edit : Thanks Kinkin.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 14, 2010, 09:23:13 pm
It was nowhere clarified that no admin/dev is involved there.

Maybe it was a bit too much for the first event. Make them a bit smaller with lesser players at the start so that the disappointment won't be that big.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Doktor X on February 14, 2010, 09:33:58 pm
Some pics of mine:



Behind enemy lines

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7871/screen14022010203655.th.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010203655.jpg/)
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9281/screen14022010203630.th.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010203630.jpg/)
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1682/screen14022010193117.th.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010193117.jpg/)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4638/screen14022010192311.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010192311.jpg/)
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1244/screen14022010192208.th.jpg) (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010192208.jpg/)
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6333/screen14022010192118.th.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/screen14022010192118.jpg/)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Zorndyke on February 14, 2010, 09:34:24 pm
I think it was to many people for the Server, every guy knows today is a big funny event and every guy comes to play.

I think smaller Events are better like.

You spawn some Enclave (5-10) into Klamath or other Towns when when the defending Players comes (sure not so many like today) ;) and you see how many they are you can attack them with a little more enclave so they have to fight :)

I think it must not be so big, small and fine is often better :)

Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: MaximusFartimus on February 14, 2010, 09:45:42 pm
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/PsihoKekec/screen_14-02-2010_18-36-53.jpg)
NCR was a heaven for suiciders.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/PsihoKekec/screen_14-02-2010_20-03-36.jpg)
On the battlefield we lined up like it's 1776.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/PsihoKekec/screen_14-02-2010_20-10-29.jpg)
Enclave hit us from the West.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/PsihoKekec/screen_14-02-2010_20-19-42.jpg)
We pushed them back from the gates.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/PsihoKekec/screen_14-02-2010_20-21-05.jpg)
But they came back in strength.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: A. Jambot on February 14, 2010, 10:03:15 pm
Well that WAS a disappointment to many players (including me), but then i guess it's the first time so many players are gathered in the same place. Nice try.

As for suggestions, everybody's saying "more space", but i tend to think corridors (fence corridors, to be able to kill possible blockers) that only allow one big queue might just work better. Treat us like brahmins please, that's all im asking for.

Looking forward to the next event.

PS : hey vedarasking, you can stick your little jokes deep inside your rectum.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Giemz on February 14, 2010, 10:16:16 pm
For all those who doesn't understand why people are so furious. You know how much you waited for the event. How awesome time you had, how much fun you felt doing that event. And now imagine some PK'er bombed himself near you before it even started and that broke your client and you couldnt have all that fun.

Except change PK idiot by GM person. Or any word you actually would use. Don't be a hipocryte. If it was you whos evening was spoiled by GM's you would whine too.That is actually first good documentated GM abuse :D We are making history.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: _Youkai_ on February 14, 2010, 11:27:35 pm
Thank God, I could survive the first wave:
 • Explosions
 • Noobs
 • and GMs kicking players

(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3038/uo0027v.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3038/uo0027v.jpg)
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9127/uo0025a.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9127/uo0025a.jpg)
(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8902/uo0024g.jpg) (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8902/uo0024g.jpg)
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3227/uo0023j.jpg) (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3227/uo0023j.jpg)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9140/uo0022v.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9140/uo0022v.jpg)
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9535/uo0021n.th.jpg) (http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9535/uo0021n.jpg)
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1130/uo0020n.th.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1130/uo0020n.jpg)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8235/uo0019k.th.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8235/uo0019k.jpg)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Solar on February 15, 2010, 01:06:43 am
I look at these screens and wonder how anyone expected there to be any order at all :)

Looks like it would've been enjoyable chaos, shame I missed 99.9% of it :(
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Lut7ifer on February 15, 2010, 01:28:56 am
i have 3 enemys see and then dc cant relogin ect but nice event XDDDD

good idea but littlebit too manz players

but nice idea as survival map XD
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: vedaras on February 15, 2010, 01:59:06 am
by the way some improvements, next time one vent you should group people by professions, cause now it has been a little mess. Would be nice if some repairmans medics could gather together and those who need them just come to the place, cause now one medic stood in one place one in another, one is asking who needs healing other saying im on cooldown :> So a little notice.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Reconite on February 15, 2010, 06:43:28 am
Shooting at one player will automatically result in a 2 days IP ban.
I have to say, this is a delightful (http://www.answers.com/topic/sarcasm) rule.

*A few hundred players are running in and amongst the Enclave troops*
"Oh no I mis-clicke-" BAN!

Wonder how well that went down...

And the best:
  • "Banning PK's? Admins GMs was doing nothing, people were killng all bluesuits."

I'm sorry, but this is why it did not work as expected (well, I expected it).

You gave the players the feeling of paranoia of them accidentally shooting someone they didn't mean to, this leads to panic, and guess what panic leads to... accidentally shooting people in the rush.
Then you got GMs with the power and rights to "ban people for 2 days" / kick them from this "fun" event and thus many innocent players were caught out of nowhere, either people who mis-clicked or just plain innocents getting kicked for doing nothing wrong, and people complain about the real PKers still hanging about. Looks to me like the GMs are a bit trigger-happy. This, Sir, is why this event does not want to work.

I think the idea of GMs being able to ban people for participating in a game event which was made for "fun" (which is not run by admins, as they have claimed) is quite clearly: wrong. There are ways around these problems, you have yet to find them.

If there is ever a "next time" for this event, It would probably be a good idea to follow my FOnline-educated advice, judging by the reactions of players and posters in this topic to such crap. Or get one of the admins to properly run the event, surely they have greater competence for such an idea than 2 actual GMs and 3 half-month-employed GMs who are barely gripping commands. No offense, of course.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Dark Angel on February 15, 2010, 09:37:30 am
WTF with man ....
2 unarmed enclave run and punch me . I kill one by LSW , and no next AP. so i RUN and SG should knock him NOT BG or PLasma granate man , they shot me and that enclave.. and i has -10 and i had must wait for FA :/ .
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Reaver45 on February 15, 2010, 11:29:02 am
I dont know if it is possible but that crowd problem could use some sort of lottery to pick random players and leave others to normal game. That shouldnt make anyone angry about getting killed in row for 10 mins then killed by "PK"or anithing and kicked I got kicked i understand why But it killed lots of time so it would be better to know from start that i cant join the event.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 15, 2010, 11:34:44 am
I got kicked i understand why But it killed lots of time so it would be better to know from start that i cant join the event.
Yup, we'll probably set a "slots" limit to next event, and possibly some registration system, so you know before the event if you can come or not, or during the first minutes.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: JovankaB on February 15, 2010, 01:05:47 pm
Yes, in the next edition there will be a max player limit and a minimum experience level too I hope. Personally I wanted every player to be able to come, but as you could see it turned into a disaster. It's not like we wanted to kick players from the map, but it was impossible to even start the event, not to mention handling it. Sorry for spoiling the evening for kicked people, but don't call it "abuse" please, it's not like we did it on purpose. We spent waaaay more than one evening preparing it, you know - and we really wished everything worked as we planned... It's just impossible to predict everything until the event of this scale starts. Now we know what was wrong, we can fix all flaws in the next edition, hopefully.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 15, 2010, 01:15:14 pm
maybe have multiple event maps?
one for beginners (lvl 1-5)
one for lowmid (lvl 6-10)
one for highmid (11-15)
one for high (16-21)
It is just a thought but it may do the world for everyone's enjoyment so that anyone can join the event and have fun at the same time.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 15, 2010, 01:17:10 pm
I think it would anyway cause lag, so unless we do those events at different times, this won't work.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: _Youkai_ on February 15, 2010, 02:12:26 pm
"accidentally shooting people in the rush"
Hmm hope that ERNERTO CHE was banned for 2 days, cause he "miss clicked" me 2 times in row!
No, I don't have proof. But by what I know, GMs was there watching...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Shangalar on February 15, 2010, 02:13:28 pm
Imo it was the most entertaining and funny event so far. It was good to see so many players coming to the meeting. Unfortunately, lots of them finally didnt play. We all hope that making such events more often and finding ways to solve the massive lags will allow us to have more fun in the future !

Thanks to all people involved in the organisation of NCR Defence event #1, we're looking forward for the number 2 !
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm
for the next event have a sign up (register list) for the event would be a real good idea it would give i dunno first 50 players maybe a chance at it but if enough people signed up then you would have a good idea as to how many events to run of the same kind? not to mention smaller numbers alot less hassle for organising it and running it

also if the signing up form had dif times on it so if you could (were able/had time to do) run the event 3/4 times in 1 day then the players who have signed up to the time slot they are able to attened they would be able to participate and have fun the level thing personally i do not agree with however if it were staged low lvl's mid lvl's high lvl's then i could not disagree with that

i mainly disagree with exp limit for events cos alot of new players or low lvl players cannot join in the fun which is extremely unfair as it should be fun for all after all it is a game for all

as for the event itself can you pick a town with more than 1 map to it? like for instance the hub? (personally i can't think how many any town has map parts and im in the game) that way you could be looking at a defence on more than 1 front which would limit players per map and help organise such a defence a little better? (i think personally anyway) would this even be possible to do??

the other thing can you run more than 1 event at a time? this could be another idea have people turn up to the event and set them on different events? like NCR defence first 50 people VAULT CITY assault second 50 and so on?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: OGINATOR on February 15, 2010, 04:37:56 pm
Hi guys

So i just wanted to add some observations by professional gamedesigner.  However i appreciate your courage to create such event i must admit that it was a chaser. Not talking here about server performance, in some point i accept this as an part of betatesting and performance testing of the resources you have, so no problem with this, you know that next-time you should buy more memory or upgrade connectivity or whatever the problem was. By the designers point of view i suggest some changes.


I think those few points should solve most of in-game problems of this event and can help you in next events. Anyway thank you for this great game and keep on your great work, no good game was born without problems and mistakes.
Title: THE day after, after the event of course
Post by: metzger777 on February 15, 2010, 05:42:15 pm
sooooooooooo yea, was pissed yesterday now doing good, i mean its maybe the leftover bottle of baccardi mojito from after the event yesterday, or maybe its the beers at lunch breake or the three coronas on the way home from work. but damn, sooooooooo over the ... that happeend to almost 200 palyers yersterday.

c ya all on the wastes,
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 15, 2010, 05:47:04 pm
maybe we'll get some vengeance metz ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Izual on February 15, 2010, 05:56:12 pm
Here is the video I took during the event. Sound is FOnline's soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSXUdBp2Bk4

Full view can be good looking, by the way.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 15, 2010, 06:11:43 pm
Here is the video I took during the event. Sound is FOnline's soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSXUdBp2Bk4

Full view can be good looking, by the way.
8:30+ is so epic. The last stand. Looks awsome, sucks i didnt made till it :D
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Surf on February 15, 2010, 06:14:25 pm
"
This was real fun. Pretty much the part of killing bluesuits to kick em was best. "  ::)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Quentin Lang on February 15, 2010, 06:22:35 pm
Quote
the other thing can you run more than 1 event at a time? this could be another idea have people turn up to the event and set them on different events? like NCR defence first 50 people VAULT CITY assault second 50 and so on?
This just threw an idea for me: Two completly same events would be quite freaky and unlogical. What if one part of people, like first 50, defend NCR, other half attack Navarro? After it ends, if theres another 100 people, you repeat the event. Set the lvl cap for the event like +11/15 and for lower lvls, would it be possible to make more simple event, like defending a base from raiders? Not than now i want to ''isolate'' low lvls, it just doesnt fit - lvl 1s fighting enclaves with 380 hp. Not much sense there.
Edit: Also, with yesterdays event experience, its quite sure that making two events for 50 people would be faster, better, easyer, than one for 100.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Wilks on February 15, 2010, 06:45:30 pm
Congratulations to the game masters team for their work and this huge event!

Thank you for this big moment on FOnline 2238. Tandy is dead :(

@ + + IG ( hey i'v the presidential pass ? muahahaha )
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: FischiPiSti on February 15, 2010, 07:23:24 pm
This just threw an idea for me: Two completly same events would be quite freaky and unlogical. What if one part of people, like first 50, defend NCR, other half attack Navarro? After it ends, if theres another 100 people, you repeat the event. Set the lvl cap for the event like +11/15 and for lower lvls, would it be possible to make more simple event, like defending a base from raiders? Not than now i want to ''isolate'' low lvls, it just doesnt fit - lvl 1s fighting enclaves with 380 hp. Not much sense there.
Edit: Also, with yesterdays event experience, its quite sure that making two events for 50 people would be faster, better, easyer, than one for 100.
I dont think that would solve the lag issue :/
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: wolfman on February 15, 2010, 07:35:15 pm
love the video but even after alot were booted (myself being 1 of them) it still looks to be too laggy to be honest i most def think reducing the number of people would help but then again if every1 logged on to play anevent would that not cause lag even if they were not all on the same map or is the lag not there when every1 registered is online?
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Lacan on February 15, 2010, 08:26:44 pm
Thanks for the video ! Good work ;D

"la voiture a disparu"; ha !
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Roachor on February 15, 2010, 08:28:55 pm
No wonder I miss all the events this shit was done before noon.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: hitman47 on February 16, 2010, 04:48:32 pm
No wonder I miss all the events this shit was done before noon.

Well maybe if u knew how to coordinate your self with the time zones u wouldnt have this problem, if u could not wake up, then move to europe hhahah.

And the event was not bad too much lag too much wating and too short.

This would be good if there was raiders (players)  and defenders also players. the bots are cheap and as soon as they see u they shot. next time make it more fun.

And respawn at more places then just one.

Thank you for your time .... and nice try
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Tank Junior on February 17, 2010, 01:00:38 pm
Really great event. Big thanks to gm's making something like this happen. The event had some problems but that was expected.
And i agree that we should limit the future events with slots and with player lvl of 18+.

And thanks to Izual for making another interesting video  ;)
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Parowooz on February 17, 2010, 05:24:51 pm
Why the fuck do you put enclave everywhere? Can't you see that it's not working? There already was PvE event like this at Sierra and what happened? People were running from enclave instead of fighting because nobody wanted to get instakilled. Not a fair fight. I'd rather make it just like a "Tower Defense" in StarCraft - at very first lvls critters are pretty low lvl so people could warm up before real enemies. We also could check wich enemies are appropriate for 21 lvl max chars.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: FischiPiSti on February 17, 2010, 05:53:56 pm
We also could check wich enemies are appropriate for 21 lvl max chars.
Enclave troopers :D

The difference is that in the original fallouts players were wearing power armor and thus indestructible.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 17, 2010, 06:01:41 pm
well, everything was unbreakable, it was unmistakable.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Szef on February 17, 2010, 11:00:36 pm
saveable, loadable :P
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: avv on February 18, 2010, 10:35:17 am
Do it in turn based next time.
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: gordulan on February 18, 2010, 10:42:42 am
how would you suggest they do that? they can't use turnbased because everything would be turnbased, and the respawn  area would be full of people trying to get out, and besides, the ranged ai is so dumbshit in turnbased, so you can practically defend ncr yourself if you have 2 action points left afther shooting...
Title: Re: NCR Defence event #1
Post by: Parowooz on February 18, 2010, 05:34:28 pm
Turn based with 200+ people? More like dumb based.