lol you need adv workbench to craft 5mm AP?Wasn't it like that the whole session?
fml
Wasn't it like that the whole session?
I cannot update, updater console says invalid configuration even after clearing cache.
Also, what is the point of being able to craft Good Metal Parts and Advanced Gunpowder on regular wb if everything you craft with them requires adv. wb?
What is a TARDIS ?The TARDIS is a vehicle used by "the doctor",in the tv series "doctor who",to travel through space and time(its the blue box from fallout 1).
but now you can't steal 5mm.Big whoop,so much of it has been stolen over the past year you can now buy it for shovels.
Nice, i like the new update, uhm any ideas why i cant connect to the server? its stuck on autentication. Also i never been able to run updater, it stucks on initializing.
[Updater]
Source0=stream://fonline2238.net/4040/2/
Source1=http://fonline2238.net/update/
Source2=stream://176.9.105.171/4040/2/
Source3=http://176.9.105.171/update/
RandomSource=1
Big whoop,so much of it has been stolen over the past year you can now buy it for shovels.
Player Mine has 2 veins of following types: High Quality Iron Ore.
One vein of abovementioned type. HQ minerals seem not to appear.
- Smart Cursor - for the most common tasks, the default cursor will detect automatically if item hold in active hand slot can be used on object pointed by the cursor and use the item once the object is clicked. For example clicking a brahmin dung with the arrow cursor will clean it if you hold a shovel in hand (selecting "use on" mode is not necessary). Smart Cursor works with following tasks: collecting fibres, shoveling brahmin dung, chopping wood, mining, digging graves (to cover graves you still have to use "use on" mode in shovel).
But why are you adding +5s to the Fix-Boy and not simply making a quantity meter?
And what is the new SE? @_@
Btw for further notice it's 1 gold nugget per vein, 1 vein at a time - redding mine, 50$ per nugget ;)
dont know but after big changes is better to wipe it :D cause many people have many equipment and new one cannot fit against itI agree.
Stealing was broken, you could get untold amounts of SS, MFC, and 5mm for no determinable reason. Now you actually have to use some effort for these things. Or buy them from crafters. You should not be able to simply "get" your high-tier PvP items, without paying or some amount of risk.
You should not be able to simply "get" your high-tier PvP items, without paying or some amount of risk.Since you needed to create new char, level him so he can actualy steal, you needed basic know-how to steal, you got shot alot and got karma drops. It was much more of risk than crafting which was more time consuming.
Stealing was broken, you could get untold amounts of SS, MFC, and 5mm for no determinable reason. Now you actually have to use some effort for these things. Or buy them from crafters. You should not be able to simply "get" your high-tier PvP items, without paying or some amount of risk.i promis u yhat i dont buy even 1 5mm ap or mfc from crafter
- Some encounter NPCs can push players away when they get too close.These are totally game braking updates for me. Why would you increase grind even more? How are we suppoused to farm 5mm AP, MFC? Crafting ammounts needed for pvp takes forever, besides not everyone like it. And now we have to kill BoS just to acquire few SS for evening TC? That's riddiculous. These changes will reduces player interaction to even lower level that it was before. Making obtaining gear even more time consumable its not the way to go. With all due respect, please, undo this changes and bring back the old system.
- A few adjustments in inventories of Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel encounters.
These are totally game braking updates for me. Why would you increase grind even more? How are we suppoused to farm 5mm AP, MFC? Crafting ammounts needed for pvp takes forever, besides not everyone like it. And now we have to kill BoS just to acquire few SS for evening TC? That's riddiculous. These changes will reduces player interaction to even lower level that it was before. Making obtaining gear even more time consumable its not the way to go. With all due respect, please, undo this changes and bring back the old system.I can't agree more.
These are totally game braking updates for me. Why would you increase grind even more? How are we suppoused to farm 5mm AP, MFC? Crafting ammounts needed for pvp takes forever, besides not everyone like it. And now we have to kill BoS just to acquire few SS for evening TC? That's riddiculous. These changes will reduces player interaction to even lower level that it was before. Making obtaining gear even more time consumable its not the way to go. With all due respect, please, undo this changes and bring back the old system.
Also why did you rework mining system when the old one was ok?Did you happen to miss one of the most active suggestion threads in the past 2 months?
Did you happen to miss one of the most active suggestion threads in the past 2 months?
To simplify,no it was not ok. No lifes kept depleting them and they would refill every few hours.
now they refill after 12 hours
its your server, your choises, your faults.Read this again.
If you don't like crafting, than simply don't, and buy it from a person who does enjoy it.Yay, pvp only for the richiest!
Yay, pvp only for the richiest!Wasn't it like that since forever?
Yay, pvp only for the richiest!Considering the TC box in Redding shits gold like a Dubai businessman, I don't think you need to be overly worried about that, especially if the value is being increased.
It was much more of risk than crafting which was more time consuming.Srsly ? You risk what, karma drop ? Whoa big plays here...
I dont agree.
Its very fun and easy to kill big bos patrol and take a lot of stuff.
Benkain please u will never take redding. Maby at late night
Thats ok. If you were cooperating enough to gather 5 people. Teamwork shoud be rewarded.
On a side note, I am surprised this (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,27391.0.html) hasn'tUnfortunately, docAn has received a warning for telling people to go on tlamk2, but hey, thanks!appeared here yetbeen spammed all over the goddamn thread.
A positive change...
Dont know but guardinas or another shit gang most of time have normal stimpaks or explosive rockets so good update for some people like always :D
1st of april is 2 days away already. Beside that, the only reason why our guys could have normal Stims and/or Expl.Rockets within their inventory is, that they probably looted them from your soldiers, dude! And i'm not even joking on that point.
So please, i never said something like "shit gang" to Hawks in the past, nor did one of our members did. So why are you that inpolite?
Unfortunately, docAn has received a warning for telling people to go on tlamk2, but hey, thanks!Well maybe They should.
I have feeling that 2238 is going to die soon.I tho it's dead since january 2009.
I have crafted 120 SS (still waiting for some, due the timer) and it took just 1,5 hour to gather 120 necessary Xander Roots and Broc Flowersdev team try to lose all pvp players, and half pvp players. Cause after it there will be some players which only ask how look special encounters, where they can shitshovel... Its easy to answer them, add soem grave digging..., then i went to buy 360 Biomed Gels (9000caps) and i have had enough empty Empty Hypodermics. The last step was to collect 120 Chemical Components in toxic caves. THIS took me over 2 hours, non-stop running around collectin chems 2 by 2, shooting golden geckos...
Crafting itself is just fraction of whole process, in sum it took around 4 hours + 10k+ in caps.
This is much more time consuming than it ever was, i like all new carfting mechanics becouse those seem srly reasonable, but extend all sources (make spawn 2 barrels in toxic caves and waterworks, make biomed gels cost 10 or 15caps, empty hypodermics costs 5 caps each, also make spawn Xander Roots and Broc Flowers in same amounts becouse xander roots seems to be 3 times more rare.
NOTE: regular stim should be craftable ALSO with medical terminal
docAn has received a warningAbout darn time...
Thats ok. If you were cooperating enough to gather 5 people. Teamwork shoud be rewarded.Teamwork for pve? Please, 20ss is for 1bg in tc
I'm so happy they nerfed stealing again now all of you apes will have to craft your own ammo and super stimpacks just like everyone elseYou could steal, craft or trade it was your decision. Developers instead of balancing craft/stealing just completely nerfed one of theese ways to get SS and ammo. Now you are forced to craft or trade or kill bos patrols.
I'm glad that now I can actually see what I'm going to mine instead of guessing which rock is what.Huge noob, NCR Idler or person with demencia detected. Its your fault when you can't remember which rock is what.
I'm pretty sure Gob has been playing much longer than your 5% speech ass.
Seriously, adapt or die.
Stealing stuff from BoS Paladins in the middle of the desert where there is no sign of life except for you and them? I mean, come on... how retarded that is?
I'm pretty sure Gob has been playing much longer than your 5% speech ass.Been playing since start of this oped beta, which is over 3 years and half. Speech here is absolutely irelevant since I was never interested in posting on this forum. At least look on date of registration on forum you idiot.
Seriously, adapt or die.
The date of registration has no bearing on when you actually started playing. I didn't register to the forums until almost a year after I began playing. But, whatever, you may in fact have started playing first.
It still has no bearing on the huge outpouring of whine and butthurt you are washing over people. So stealing was nerfed? Find a new way to spam super stims, like it was crack.
Since you are playing TLA mk2 now you don't need to post on this forum.
Since Im playing on TLA MK II now, I dont need to farm SS anymore.
I didnt even talk about you as shit gang you only weilding normal stims and expl. rockets its nice roleplay not bad
We play all the time to yesterday :D. I was crafter for two years,
Maybe the main problem is there's too much whiners.
Maybe the main problem is there's too much whiners.
Pr0tip: person posting changelog is not always the one who made all of changes in it
THIS took me over 2 hours, non-stop running around collectin chems 2 by 2, shooting golden geckos...
Now I run into pig rats more than aliens, and it seems like I have to run around and mine things
Yes nerf ss :) please jov u are mad or u just hate pvp? Nerf all and ruin everything. This serv will be........fuck know?
Tell it to non tank builds.
JovB? Whhhhhat? Ca2 is 90-110 damage per Gatling burst. Ma2 2xtoughness is 90-120 damage per avenger/m60 burst. In gang wars u have focus fire. U will force everyone to make max hp 2xtoughness +ADR rush psycho beer tanks in ma2, because other builds will be dead after 4th burst. Snipers will be ripped after bg bursters rush. U don't know shit. U will just make all "soft" but specialised build totally useless.
JovB I have tank build : 285hp 2xtoughness ADR rush psycho and beer, 11ap Brof 7pe on drugs in ca2 I have 11/75% and with ar I have 12-13-14/80-85-90% so if 60hp noob can take 2burst I should take at least 15-20?
JovankaB keep your infidel hands off pvp.
Tell me why all tc gangs and pvp loners are telling you, your ideas are bad and you keep acting like prime Alfa and omega in pvp. You don't know how it works and what pvp players need to fix. You hate everyone who don't agree with you and you hate pvp factions who don't want ncr idlers in their ranks. You did enough bad in pvp and you want do go even further
Is short words :
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going to camp every mine with friends kill every nor noobs and make it impossible for them to mine
some people will defend the most ridiculous exploits and mechanics if they get used to them.Yes.
All I'm saying is that I think good armor should protect low HP characters in similar ways as high HP characters (or at least the difference shouldn't be that big). But this is really going offtopic now.
Jacky stop spamming the thread with your forum alts.
Lol cant steal 5mm wtfRead thread maybe should LOL.
You ruined the game, weldone important going to camp every mine with friends kill every nor noobs and make it impossible for them to mine, u ruined game so am i anyone here to join us send me pm
Jacky stop spamming the thread with your forum alts.Read thread maybe should LOL.
Would be hilarious if all major PVP factions joined together to make sure mines are guarded 24/7 against anyone who tries to mine stuff for crafting as a protest for killing stealing.Good luck in finding that anyone.
Wake up! Fonline 2238 have some PvE ? I dont think so. Where are group quests ? Where are PvE instances ? Where is enough solo quests to make 24 lvl character ? Nothing. To me it seems fonline 2238 dont have PvE . And what da hell i have to do here? PvP is only choise. Oki , lets look at it .When i have lets say 5 combat characters , i need at least 10 CA 2, at least 10 top weapons , 10 x set of drugs , 100 super stims and lot of amunition.No problem make 10 pvp actions at one ewening.Big pile of stuff isnt? Hm.As i read it takes around 5 hours to earn 100 SS.If im lucky enough to find all prints i can craft a weapons and ammo on at least 3 crafters because crafting cooldown with getting resources it takes 3-4 hours. Count with me its already 8 hours and i dont have armors ....!Oki.2 more hours to earn and repair CA2s.....It makes nice 10 hours together and u cant count u can do this alone. So if u wana daily play PvP in Fonline 2238 now u must have around 12!!!! hours of time ewery day . Its not just bad.Its pure insanity.Who can do this ? Who will enjoy this?? How do i have this when im not unemployed? Can u dews tell me ?No u cant cause its not possible.And haters who call us PvP apes dont have enough honor to stand up and fight go hide urself in mines with rats. From dungedon of rage scirencely yours Psy-rene :-\
Simply with a big guners 75DR+2shoot m60.
The bos patrol would do "no damage" on you.
Simply with a big guners 75DR+2shoot m60.
The bos patrol would do "no damage" on you.
Until it switches to ap ammo.
Yes, on the first turn, they shoot with 5mm jhp. So just rush them, 1 hex, 2 burst and it's so easy.sorry but u r stupid
Huge noob, NCR Idler or person with demencia detected. Its your fault when you can't remember which rock is what.
if udont play any more so stfu manDidn't you read his post?
Because I agree that stealing from NPC's to farm items is bad? Y
Didn't you read his post?i readed
crafting 5mm AP was easy, crafting SStims was insane, now it got changed and is easy toosome 1 say that alredy in this topic
if you don't want to craft or farm crafters/miners you can try buy what you need from people who mine and craft.
crafting 5mm AP was easy, crafting SStims was insane, now it got changed and is easy too
if you don't want to craft or farm crafters/miners you can try buy what you need from people who mine and craft.
I have been playing about 2 months, I was in a faction, had a leveled thief and 160 det parts (both of which are useless now). Thief build are completely useless now, couldn't you have simply reduced there usefulness? I already spent lots of time in the mines, I am both a "PVP APE" as well as "mining crafter". 1st thing I would like to say, great job with the mines.
Now about the SS. 10 minutes you should get about 30 chem components, not bad since it takes one per SS. But 75 caps in biogel per SS. Maybe you could make an alternative way to collect biogel? Or you could reduce the price by 5-10 caps . . . Peopple do not need to take 10 SS to TC that is overkill, there havn't been any huge pvp battles lately, I take 5-6, and I haven't ran out in mid battle.
You sound like a big bitch.
Death has a special place for you. Cannot wait to dig up your grave.
Yes Glumer, maby ask his to teach you pvp or ask him for hunt party to kill unity in tbYou can grammar jacky
this server is dying i think :(Since 2009, yeah.
Good luck in finding that anyone.That anyone is called Benkain :)
this social experimentBreaking news! Developers of FOnline 2238 are screwing over their consumers and secretly running a social experiment of testing one's patience. One of the devs say to us "We really want to find out, how long does it take for every single player to leave our game."
Breaking news! Developers of FOnline 2238 are screwing over their consumers and secretly running a social experiment of testing one's patience. One of the devs say to us "We really want to find out, how long does it take for every single player to leave our game."
Naah, just kidding. I do understand your point of view tho.
You must understand, that if 2238 become increasingly popular, the playerbase will grow, the traffic will rise and this will overload the servers, causing a massive lag.
This is why new players must be attracted with Fallout and to be scared off with harsh features. The addicted ones who stay are the skeleton of the everchanging playerbase. ;)
more popular -> more sponsors -> more money -> better scripts -> better server -> better support -> more players -> more fun
That anyone is called Benkain :)No, i don't realized that, but what i had realized is that your data was gathered and processed in your butt, as no voting or anylikething could be found.
What people do not realize here that 95% of the guys playing this want heavy PvP
What people do not realize here that 95% of the guys playing this want heavy PvP (player to player) and not player-to-rock actionYou are totally wrong, kind sir (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,28325.msg244175.html#msg244175).
you probably shouldn't talk to any oldschool PvP players anytime soonYes, i know that. I'm hiding around the corner every time i see them on streets of my city.
I'd never be able to be more rude and aggressive than a player, no matter how hard i'll try. And you are the one of few which makes this statement always true. Well, it's your boat, sail as you want. I'd stopped expecting anything from things which may be posted here long ago - forum swim in a sea of own stinking product, and doesn't look like it's going to change, ever. No matter what staff member will do, it will be become shit after forum-filter. Even if it's something what has been requested 5 minutes ago.Jesus Christ, how horrifying. Have you ever paused to think why do those awful things always seem to happen to you? Yeah, must be the horribad playerbase. The hilarious part is that most people you're so quick to complain about and scratch off as "whiners" are the closest thing to groupies you're ever going to see in the gaming world when it comes to other titles. How come?
Great example of that is so commented shit shovelling and grave digging - minor non-pvp/non-crafting/non-ncr activities, that was and are frequently requested (at least that's how i understand "there's nothing else to do"). When they become reality, they're on top of forum's hate list. 2238 circle of life, nothing new.Yeah, those terrible players, they fail to appreciate all the rewarding and complicated endgame mechanics these groundbreaking features entail. I mean when you say Fallout, you immediately think shoveling dung, right? Right?
Yes, i know that. I'm hiding around the corner every time i see them on streets of my city.You do realize that posting passive-aggressive stuff like that sort of proves that you understand you've all earned their open hostility over the years, right? It's not even like I'm one of those hardcore haters, I just understand where they're coming from and I have a lot of appreciation for the comic value of the fact that you guys are still in denial about having alienated a massive part of your playerbase through unnecessary development choices. In all honesty, it's almost as if you were trying to grief players without actually realizing the meaning of your actions - hence the alien mind control/parasite joke.
So, why i'm angry at you? Guess i don't want to see players which i remember most (surprisingly, many of them come from BBS or was somehow connected to them) from private "player era" taking part into this freak show which is going on here. Don't want to remember them later next to currently fabulous forum warriors, which lacks some kind of freaky class that good old 2238 players had.Nothing that's happening here is my fault or the fault of other players and you know that. Shifting the blame might be good when it comes to dealing with the psychological aftermath in your head, but in the end it just makes you look all the more arrogant.
Anyway, time for my turn is almost gone, i have to give you and everyone else a chance to prove me and everyone else in team that we should never touch computers in our lives, or anything which can run predefined actions. Maybe with exception for a washing machine :)You're a smart girl, you should know that the whole "if you haven't done it better than us you should stop talking" thingie is nothing more than an intellectual fallacy... and even if it wasn't, I think the TLA people have done a perfectly good job when it comes to proving you're not the hot shit you think you are. I mean even those - to use your lingo - aggressive asshole whiners are impressed and approach this new TLA server with enthusiasm, giving it their full support. Do you know why? Because that other devteam actually earned it.
Let's just agree that tlamk2 is better and 2238 should just give up since they lack any ability to actually make a game worth playing. It's funny how many suggestions I've made that were rejected often with the excuse that it couldn't be done due to hardcoding yet it works on tla, like crafting in batches.Bunch of bollocks.
Let's just agree that tlamk2 is better and 2238 should just give up since they lack any ability to actually make a game worth playing.Is it really so hard to accept that we won't "give up" because other team made something in different way? And really, what's wrong with you guys that you stand the fact that there exists more than one FOnline-based server? It always have to be just one, other should shut down in release day - and if they won't, you put a lot of effort to make them so - just look at amount of 'i don't play, but i daily troll around' posts :)
And really, what's wrong with you guys that you stand the fact that there exists more than one FOnline-based server?Probably This.
Let's just agree that tlamk2 is better and 2238 should just give upNo it's not, so many retarded features, crafting so realistic I won't be surprised finding a blueprint for buttons necessary to craft leather jacket MkIII, crawling instead of travelling (one of my "favs", no matter the name of server is), prices of bases and cars out of the arse, weird encounters like mantis' or wolves, very ugly maps design, weapons from all Sci-Fi games you can only imagine and so on. It's far from "good" server, so TLA mk2 isn't better, it's just 2238 became worse and worse. Shit happens, deal with it.
Updated mines look very nice. Don't mind the haters devs, you're doing a good job.new minig is shit. now you need to lvl a miner? and 4 hq minerals per vein? with that i dont even craft 100 7.62 ammo. and with 30 players online i cant buy them couse nobody sells them. crafting now its a lot of work to get killed and lose your stuff, like i said this game is for factions only
Joe Deer
new minig is shit. now you need to lvl a miner? and 4 hq minerals per vein? with that i dont even craft 100 7.62 ammo. and with 30 players online i cant buy them couse nobody sells them.
nobody sells them.Just wait for one of Rabbitmans sale rushes.
Oh really? Make an offer. I can sell you 40 HQ powders right away.i posted in buy section and nobody answered, so dont jump like that now.
i posted in buy section and nobody answered, so dont jump like that now.
If the problem is mining powders, make offer for powders or even HQ minerals, not the ammo, so anyone can do it for you. Not everyone has a character with BG profession, for example I don't. Who needs caps most? Newbies. Make newbies mine ore for you!yeah i thought of that. but there is no way that newbies mine HQ stuff now imo... im not whining or saying "this game is shit" and all that crap, im just saying the things i didnt like about the update couse im not gonna stop playing. its just that we (the ones that keep playing this game no matter what and dont go to other server or dont play anymore becouse an update) care about this game.
I think it's much better now, you can go to the mines anytime you want, no bullshit bluesuit alts logging on/off and depleting resources (you really liked that? srsly), no easy to set up bots. You can COOPERATE with other players, even if you don't know each other (you take one part of mine, the other player takes second part, and on average you both should actually mine slightly faster than if you just were running randomly or kill each other over ores - this of course requires mutual agreement).kind of hard to agree here :) of course i didnt like the depleting resources.
wow i dont see anymore pvp fights , or town control anymore dont tell me that the server has died plaese, because of stupied updates , im sorry but this update sucks
wow i dont see anymore pvp fights , or town control anymore dont tell me that the server has died plaese, because of stupied updates , im sorry but this update sucksPvP Update would bring back some people on this server, and this server definitively needs more people now.
PvP on TLA is 100x better, higher level, more hp, and you can fight longer,Probably.
not like here you die after 2 hits in 1 minute,That's because you are nub (?).
Probably.
That's because you are nub (?).
the only people who don't die are the people who didn't get shot at because they had a larger group, don't pretend fonline involves any level of skill. It's 100% preparation.Besides preparation there's also luck, which really matters in this game.
@Deputy: Enough with the brahmin shit already. It's pathetic. You haters are all about the same, at least come with something new because this is not even funny anymore, more like annoying.Don't blame him, it seems to be very important part of game for this guy.
@Roachor: It's not like you get shot and you die, most of the guys have plenty of SS on them and if you have some kind of anti-crit tankish build then you can live pretty long unless 3/4 opponents focus fire on you.
@Deputy: Enough with the brahmin shit already. It's pathetic. You haters are all about the same, at least come with something new because this is not even funny anymore, more like annoying.
@Deputy: Enough with the brahmin shit already. It's pathetic. You haters are all about the same, at least come with something new because this is not even funny anymore, more like annoying.
I think it's much better now, you can go to the mines anytime you want, no bullshit bluesuit alts logging on/off and depleting resources (you really liked that? srsly), no easy to set up bots by cheaters. You can COOPERATE with other players, even if you don't know each other (you take one part of mine, the other player takes second part, and on average you both should actually mine slightly faster than if you just were running randomly or kill each other over ores - this of course requires mutual agreement).
d in gecko mine was some stupid sneaker with m60 who killed my brahmin me my companion and my dual log char ...
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- Disabled probable cause of some occasional huge lags on the public server.Wow, just wanted to say: great convenient changes.
- Solution for "character already in game" problem (if you provide correct password and have the same IP, the server will drop connection of the character in game).
- Smart Cursor
- Slightly decreased weight of minable resources. Volume of all minable resources is set to 2.
- Good Metal Parts and Advanced Gunpowder can be crafted with Workbench. High Quality Alloys still require Advanced Workbench.
- All caravan wagons have 10x larger volume capacity.
- All respawning mobs (for example ants in Broken Hills) after death forget characters who attacked them.
- Stimpak and Super Stimpak recipes were made slightly cheaper.
- Stimpak, Super Stimpak, Radaway and Rad-X are now craftable in batches of 5.
- Small changes in Hinkley (more spawns in the Pit arena and some boxes blocking field of view in team rooms for sneakers).