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Keldorn:
I don't mind Krakish giving his input, everyones entitled to one.  However, if someones gonna go out of their way to give input in a douchebag manner directed at me, then how the hell do you expect me to respond?

With your post Michael I can respond in a few ways.

I can either talk like a rational being and say "I undersand that realism in the Fallout world is a pick and choose affair.  Somethings are in the game just to make it funner".

Or I can be a sarcastic ass and tell you how stupid your post was.  I could tell you your an un-educated idiot fanboy to simply accept whatever the devs throw at you without question.  I could remind you,, n the rudest way possble, how this game is in beta stage and devs welcome a diversity of opinions.

Which one would you prefer?

theyseemetrollin:

--- Quote from: kraskish on October 14, 2010, 03:59:13 AM ---I agree with you Keldorn. Cars/Robots/Train/Traintrack are impossible to exist in Fonline thats why we have them implemented

We could move on with idiotic things and have robot mercs, whats wrong with that? Would it spoil the overwhelming sticking to reality policy? I doubt it

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You might want to remember at what technological level people were at when they made the railroads. Cars themselves are fairly simple machines and can be made by novice mechanics. If you're going to bitch about realism how about the fact you can craft fusion batteries or shoot plasma (firing gas -like projectiles over distance, lol).

Nyarla:

--- Quote from: Keldorn on October 14, 2010, 03:50:53 AM ---Look at how much cars have changed from 1900s to 1950s.

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thats what i mean. cars have changed remarkably in 50 years, and people had no idea where they were heading to. they were trying to find their ways out mostly with trials and errors. but those who leaves the vaults wouldn't have to repeat same trials and errors. even if they didnt have any schmatics on cars, they would have advenced knowledge on engines and electronics. as i stated in my previous comment, even today people can convert basic diesel irrigation motors into simple transportation vehicles.

mechanics today have to comb through a car to find out what the problem is because cars today have so many unnecassary features; automatic windows, sterios, rear-seat dvd players, electronic central locks, backdoor locks, seat heaters, intermittent windshield wipers, ambient lightings, air conditioners, electronically adjustable sunblinds, integrated trailer brake controllers... and lots of more stuff which are cool but not vital. some cars today have some sophisticated features even Apollo 11 didn't have. do you remember from the movies the cars that would be started by turning a crank? well that was also a car, and those didnt need to be hooked up to a sophisticated machine to be repaired.

there are lots of wrecked cars in the wasteland, i don't think that it is not possible to gain one good part from each car. at least a good tire maybe. and there also has to be some in much better conditions.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Keldorn on October 14, 2010, 04:12:50 AM ---I don't mind Krakish giving his input, everyones entitled to one.  However, if someones gonna go out of their way to give input in a douchebag manner directed at me, then how the hell do you expect me to respond?

With your post Michael I can respond in a few ways.

I can either talk like a rational being and say "I undersand that realism in the Fallout world is a pick and choose affair.  Somethings are in the game just to make it funner".

Or I can be a sarcastic ass and tell you how stupid your post was.  I could tell you your an un-educated idiot fanboy to simply accept whatever the devs throw at you without question.  I could remind you,, n the rudest way possble, how this game is in beta stage and devs welcome a diversity of opinions.

Which one would you prefer?



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Either, actualy the second one would be funnier, in this game I've learned not to care what people say about me since half the population is douche central.  (No matter how much sarcasm is in there I'm being serious)

Besides,like you said,everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Keldorn:
@Nyrla

And how would our mechanics figure out how to build or repair a Model T if they had no clue what it was.  If every single vault was an encyclopedia of information then, I can concede to your point on cars.  However, keep in mind the vault project had some serious bad case scenarios already planned for the folks inside.  Some vaults were based on gambling only (hillarious).  Some vaults planned to release psychotropic drugs into its population.  Some had the overseers room sealed.  Some never to open at all.  And then some only children in them.  Why would they contain  anything more but basic knowledge on how to maintain the vaults.  I think a bit too much credit is given to the idea of "reverse engineering"  Engineering and repair is a highly specialized field.  Same with doctors. Just because a guy can fix the air conditioner or the plumbing doesn't mean hes going to be an auto mechanic.  Also the same applies to salvaging one part of each car to salvage another completely broken car?  Even in the real world certain car parts are incompatible with other cars simply due to the differences of said cars.  Are they foreign or domestic?  Even if these were all "made in america",  you would still have different manufacturers, designs, etc.

Again, I will repeat if you move your mouse cursor over the wrecks, all of them state NO AMOUNT OF REPAIR is going to get these things moving again.  Somethings are just too fucked up to be repaired or modified.  You know, same with weapons that happen to be "beyond repair".  In your scenario we could simply fix everything as long as we had BoS, Vault City, or Enclave membership.  If the control vaults did have information on cars it would make more sense to build  or cobble up a new one.  Not saying you cannot find A SINGLE car but even then it wouldn't just be "given" to someone.  Most likely it ouwld be in the hands of techno factions.  

I don't think anyone in Klamath would seriously have the knowledge and ability to find a highwayman nevertheless have the knowledge to maintain it.  I mean how old can this mechanic be anyways if you go the route he was an original survivor of the nuclear holocaust.

@Michael

Sure I suppose I could have ignored Krakish.  I guess we can both agree on that.

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