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Author Topic: Less bitchy people in the wasteland  (Read 3967 times)

Eternauta

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Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« on: September 16, 2010, 05:54:57 am »

The wasteland is harsh and all you want, but don't you hate those annoying caravan guards treatening you just because you are "too" close? Man, even the Followers of the Apocalypse do that too.

Guards gotta do their job, I understand, so they wield their weapons at all times just in case... Well, we wastelanders gotta do the same I guess. Merchants are supposed to be cool characters with high charisma or whatever, not someone who talks to you aggresively, don't you think? and what's wrong with the Followers? They claim to be pacifist guys but now it seems they are willing to start a fight against an innocent traveller.

I say they erase that feature from the NPCs you find out there, wandering the wastes like you. I don't like the idea of being shot just because I got too close to a guard while, for example, running away from another player who is trying to steal from me. Or a more probable situation: accidently passing near the guards in those random urban maps which are full of ruined walls and you can't see what's behind them.

Does anyone agree?
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 06:53:35 am »

Wasteland is place of killers and other scums.

And wasteland always should be like that.

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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 07:03:43 am »

Wasteland is place of killers and other scums.

And wasteland always should be like that.


You didn't even read the OPs post, right?

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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 07:11:13 am »

You didn't even read the OPs post, right?
I always read whole post.
So what i missed this time?

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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 07:15:27 am »

Wasteland is place of killers and other scums.

And wasteland always should be like that.

There are also people who don't need to kill you. Merchants are an example.

Oh and your skill at giving arguments is way below 0%.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 07:19:17 am by Eternauta »
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 07:29:45 am »

Wasteland is place of killers and other scums.

And wasteland always should be like that.

dude... this guy is not whining about PK's or harsh wasteland or other scum.

He just don't like neutral NPC in random encounters who use *anti steal script*  :P

Back to topic: if devs will remove this script, BoS patrols will become unlimited free 5mm ammo boxes.  ;D

« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 07:32:39 am by VongJin »
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2010, 07:44:04 am »

Back to topic: if devs will remove this script, BoS patrols will become unlimited free 5mm ammo boxes.  ;D



So what? Do you wander the wasteland shooting every fucker you come across just because you got a lot of ammo and don't want them to steal it from you?

Anyway, the case of Brotherhood patrols "might" be different, since they are simply wandering soldiers who try to protect their base. And the Brotherhood only lets merchants get close to their base. Merchants and such people are another thing: these guys shouldn't kill you, but try to sell you their stuff for example. They got different interests.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 07:48:53 am by Eternauta »
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 09:05:04 am »

Merchants and such people are another thing: these guys shouldn't kill you, but try to sell you their stuff for example. They got different interests.

Staying alive and protecting their stuff will be their number 1 interest.
If you come running towards them armed, they'll defend themselves.
Nevertheless if you stay out of 3 hexes range and want to trade, you should be save.
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 09:20:40 am »

I think he is talking about broken (?) script because of which some NPCs (Merchant Party, Followers of Apocalypse) yell at you to hide weapons even if you are far from them.
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 09:34:36 am »

I think he is talking about broken (?) script because of which some NPCs (Merchant Party, Followers of Apocalypse) yell at you to hide weapons even if you are far from them.
it is not broken script, they start to scream if kill several party.
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2010, 02:46:32 am »

I think he is talking about broken (?) script because of which some NPCs (Merchant Party, Followers of Apocalypse) yell at you to hide weapons even if you are far from them.

I was talking about them ordering you to holster your weapon, but also about them telling you not to come close. Both things should be erased. Well, maybe not the order to hide your weapon, but you should at least be able to wield it if you are at a reasonable distance.
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2010, 02:59:17 am »

I was talking about them ordering you to holster your weapon, but also about them telling you not to come close. Both things should be erased. Well, maybe not the order to hide your weapon, but you should at least be able to wield it if you are at a reasonable distance.
Like sniping distance?  :P
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 03:44:55 am »

Like sniping distance?  :P

No, mr. sarcastic tongue.
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2010, 04:04:44 am »

Maybe some of them are bugged?  Not sure if anyone noted, but its the new encounters that seem to do that right now? Like Merchant Party (of death).  They shout rather quick to holster the weapon, and if you have a few second lag on map load, well... they attack you pretty damn fast.

-So I think the AI in regards to this is more bug than design..
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Re: Less bitchy people in the wasteland
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2010, 04:05:53 am »

It's bugged. Happened to me at Prospectors and some other Redding Encounters too. How should they even notice I have my gun not holstered when I am 1 hex from exitgrid away? ;)
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