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[groximus]

I was thinking in a sniper whit sneak and crit ,is that a good idea?

-S.P.E.C.I.A.L-

st 5 +1 = 6
pe 5 +5 = 10
en 5 +1 = 6
ch 5 -2 = 3
in 5 -4 = 1
ag 5 +2 + 1 = 8
lk 5 +1 = 6

5 -5 = 0

-PERKS-

awareness 3
silent running 6
better critical 9
ghost 12
bonus damage  15
""     ""     ""    18
Action Boy       21

-TRAIT-

Small frame

[Ganado]

You are trying a Sneak/Sniper build. You want at least 9 Intelligence. Currently you have 1. Think about it; You need about 250 minimum skill points into Sneak, and about 200 into Small Guns, and then there is Outdoorsman, Doctor, or First Aid.

- 10 Perception is too much for a build like yours, either. I suggest 7.
- 6 Strength is too much for a build like yours (sniper rifle only requires 5, pistols only require 4). I suggest 5 and get Small Frame.
- 1 Intelligence is way too little. 8, 9, or 10 needed for a sneak build to be effective.

Your Perks:
- Get "Lifegiver" at level 12
- One "more criticals", maybe two.

Traits (even though you didn't put this):
I suggest Small Frame and finesse.

[groximus]

Ok i will think other build and i will post it thank

[Surf]

You can use this tool here for more convenient experimenting with characterbuilds:

http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=1984.msg79640#new

[groximus]

i thinking to play whit my bro only 2 how much charisma do you think i will need?


-S.P.E.C.I.A.L-

st 5 +0 = 5
pe 5 +2 = 7
en 5 +1 = 6
ch 5 -4 = 1
in 5 +4 = 9
ag 5 +1 = 6
lk 5 +1 = 6

5 -5 = 0



-PERKS-

awareness       3
more critical   6
better critical 9
lifegiver      12
lifegiver      15
ghost          18
more critical  21

-TRAIT-

Small frame


only the party leader needs char?

[gordulan]

Here's a build I was using pre-wipe, and to a certain extent sometimes use now

S 5 (the necessary strength required to use a sniper rifle)
P 7 (Vision is important, and in TB PvE you almost always get to go before the NPCs)
E 4 (Not too important with a large reserve of HP really...)
C 1 (your brother can lead the party, therefore, he'll need a minimum of 2 charisma...)
I  6 (Plenty of skillpoints for the SG skill)
A 8 (9 AP is pretty important when going PvE) [you can take 6 alternately, but would never work to 100% in PvE)
L 10 (60% crit chance in eyes make my day)
Tags
Small Guns: This choice is obvious...
Unarmed: (conserves bullets in the long run {saved me a couple of thousand .223 slugs Pre-Wipe} [Altenatively you can grab another skill if you want really...]
Doc/FA: Healing limbs/health
Traits:
Small Frame
[finesse] (Only if you plan on being a complete crippler.) {Alternatively you can take good natured if your brother has a mentats at hand, for the fortress +SGskill quest, nets you a +5% net bonus (SGSkill-10%+15).
Perks:
Awareness
More Crits
Better Crits
Lifegiver
Lifegiver (actually, whatever you want, I went with a second lifegiver, paid off quite well I gotta say...)
More Crits
More Crits

And well, Sneak in PvE is useless really, only good when griefing other people by coming close to them from behind and blasting them at near-point-blank range with several bursts... (but thet's just my opinion...)

[Zimny_Lechu]

so 250 is minimum value of sneak skill to have it effective??

omg think I need to rebuild my char .....
 

[farnak]

excellet builds, wonna moar fresh meat.

[NoDriLL]

and bonus rate of fire? should you get it has a sniper???

[Michaelh139]

and bonus rate of fire? should you get it has a sniper???

Oh god yes.

[borse]

sneak isn't the best choice imo. You'll be far enough away as it is to not be seen by most people.