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Why? Forgot about melee?
Cultist:
In response to the minigun vs ballistic shield comment, of course the minigun would win. But irl miniguns are also a mounted weapon and aren't really meant for use on infantry(Well unless you're fighting the chinese). Having a "tank" class to absorb damage would require major changes to how line of sight works, you'd need more than 255 hp to be useful too unless it has insanely high stats and even then you could just sit in tb, absorb a hit, pull out a bg then bam.
John Ryder:
--- Quote from: Ymeogamaouas on October 01, 2010, 03:36:52 PM ---once again...
there is a REASON humanity evolved PAST swords and shields.
the "best" shield today, the full riot shields used by swat teams or combat squads to hide their colleagues behind are extremely heavy and unwieldy so that the person carrying them only carries the shield while other people shoot from behind him.
Even so a dedicate assault rifle/sniper rifle, MINIGUN would pass it like paper after a couple of shots.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly
Read his story.
I know those were XIX century guns, but we shouldn't have anything better than in postapocalyptic world.
zato1:
a super cattle prod is a deadly melee weapon, but most posters are correct, melee weapons are rather out of place in an environment where guns are supreme. of course, that is true of the real world as well.... which is why we need to change it.
fallout is not the real world, and it needs some gimmicky hilarious option for melee users to be on even grounds with gun users because this is afterall a GAME. if i want to simulate a real knife vs gun fight i will go play COD with my knife out charging guys with m60s. i'm sure you can imagine the outcome.
Cultist:
--- Quote from: zato1 on October 04, 2010, 12:16:50 AM ---a super cattle prod is a deadly melee weapon, but most posters are correct, melee weapons are rather out of place in an environment where guns are supreme. of course, that is true of the real world as well.... which is why we need to change it.
fallout is not the real world, and it needs some gimmicky hilarious option for melee users to be on even grounds with gun users because this is afterall a GAME. if i want to simulate a real knife vs gun fight i will go play COD with my knife out charging guys with m60s. i'm sure you can imagine the outcome.
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Yeah you freaking teleport 10 feet through machinegun fire and one shot them because of stupid fing perks. COD is way more melee friendly.
avv:
--- Quote from: zato1 on October 04, 2010, 12:16:50 AM ---fallout is not the real world, and it needs some gimmicky hilarious option for melee users to be on even grounds with gun users because this is afterall a GAME.
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This is correct. The reason why it might feel weird that guns wouldn't always beat melee is because we lack the graphical animations to simulate for example this kind of situations:
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