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Stop that!
« on: September 14, 2010, 12:22:45 pm »

Why nearly every change is nerfing something? Drugs (only +2 AP for -2 strenght (important thing) and -15% DR for jet - wtf is that!), repairing car, trait fast shot (because guy with SMG can't win with bg with minigun - what a suprise) and even fucking traveling on map. This is end of your invention? Nerfing something? Add new weapons like a simple bow - it will be very popular weapon after nuclear war. Try make bow and try make bb gun or 10 mm pistol in real life and you will be know what i think. Add new armors, new places with quests (maybe villages like Arroyo) and for fun with town control, mayor of Necropolis. Use your imagination!

Sorry for my english. Gramatics of this language is hard for me.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2010, 12:25:45 pm by SantaFaust »
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 12:25:31 pm »

If you don't like this situation... you can left from FOnline.
Re: Stop that!
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 12:28:00 pm »

Yeah! This is the most simple way. Stop playing. But it's the worst way!
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 12:30:25 pm »

Yeah! This is the most simple way. Stop playing. But it's the worst way!
Hmm.. i think it's good way to stop this game.
This game is drug to players.
Re: Stop that!
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 12:34:42 pm »

Like every game. I just want make FO better.
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2010, 12:50:20 pm »

Add new armors, new places with quests (maybe villages like Arroyo) and for fun with town control, mayor of Necropolis. Use your imagination!
Finally someone suggested this, boy youre a genius !
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 01:04:20 pm »

Arroyo should be in worldmap.
World is nothing without good old tribe-village :D
Re: Stop that!
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 01:23:05 pm »

I think it should be possible to play TC in those villages. But pernament. Only another gang can take it back. In those villages should be shops and quests.
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 02:00:51 pm »

The Dialogue Editor is out there. Write a quest, submit it, get feedback on it, rework it, submit it. Finally get it approved and put in the game.

Nothing stopping you and afterwards you'll appreciate how long and how much effort it takes to do something which is summerized by "Add more quests".

Then do it over and over again, because players will just demand it of you, "you've added one quest? Great, now make more" :)


All in all, people are doing these things. If its not fast enough have a go yourself and submit it, we can always do with more people adding things at the required standard.
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 02:13:12 pm »

Ok. Quests is not the most important thing in my suggestion. I write about your tendence. Everything must be nerfed. And this is end of your creativity. Nerfing something or make something more powerfull (rare).
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2010, 02:20:09 pm »

Nerfing is good because battles shouldn't last 5 seconds...
They could as well boost everyone's HP amount and make weapons which were too weak stronger, that would be "positive" change - would rather that make you happy?
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2010, 02:31:15 pm »

I agreed.
Im afraid of suggest any change of weapon, because it will be nerfed in next update :P
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2010, 02:34:14 pm »

@Solar, quests like quests but the truth is players suggestions and work is reconized by devs as "worthless" so what is the point?
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2010, 02:38:18 pm »

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- Weapon changes:
  * 10mm Pistol increased to 8-15 damage
  * .223 Pistol increased to 25-30 damage
  * Assault Rifle increased to 14-23 damage, increased to 12 shots per burst and magazine increased to hold the same number of bursts in normal and extended.
  * 7.62mm Ammo increased to 12/10 damage mod
  * 10mm JHP DR increased to +27
  * FN FAL increased to 14-22 damage
  * Combat Shotgun increased to 20-28 damage
  * H&K CAWs increased to 6 shots per burst, magazine increased to 18
  * Jackhammer increased to 20-31 damage, magazine increased to 15
  * 10mm SMG increased to 8-15 damage
  * p90c increased to 13-19 damage
  * Tommy Gun increased to 12 shots per burst, magazine increased to 60
  * Grease Gun increased to 12 shots per burst, magazine increased to 48
  * Light Support Weapon increased to 22-37 damage
  * Plasma Rifle range increased to 30
  * Molotov Cocktail increased to 16-24 damage
  * Frag Grenade increased to 5AP and 30-50 damage
  * Flamer increased to 50-85 damage
  * Improved Flamer increased to 70-125 damage

Plenty went up.

The good was too good, the middle was too bad. The top was reduced a little and the middle was increased. Alpha strike was made much less important, so tactics other than ambushing someone with a 3 shot avenger were possible.

Drugs made it so you had to use drugs or suffer a massive disadvantage - now they give a small boost in specific areas and don't force 10 minute windows where god chars bump into each other.


Suppose it all depends on your point of reference. If you were using god chars on drugs with an avenger before you were nerfed. If you were a regular char with an assault rifle you were buffed.
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Re: Stop that!
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 02:40:54 pm »

Player with minigun vs. player with shotgun - battle takes 2 seconds. Some weapons are weak, some are strong. And it is normal. Sometimes nerfig is good and sometimes not. But it shouldn't make something completely useless (like drugs exept beer, nuka and ciggaretes). Who will drive cars if it need 200% skill to repair? Who using jet if it take 2 strenght and for this give only 2 AP? Where is the reason to still keep it in the game? I using crafters and combat chars. What is "regular char"? Crafter or small gunner?

And last question: what is special in 7,62? Why it can be created only in raiders base or SAD? M60 or FN FAL are not that powerfull weapons.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2010, 02:46:22 pm by SantaFaust »
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