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Haraldx:
You recieve no cooldowns, but don't get exp for using your skills (includes crafting) :P Now thats a real trait!

Concerning about Fast Shot, I heard they wanna remove it because all biggunners use it. Well then why don't we remove Finnese? All critical snipers use it, remove it... why don't we remove More Criticals perk? All critical snipers use it, remove it... Why don't we remove SG skill? All critical snipers use it... Why don't we remove Big guns skill? All BGs use it, remove it. Now, the game is now balanced - we have almost no perks, almost no skills, and almost no traits, but the game is balanced :) Play happy.

Pandemon:
That will be looks like this game after Beta ;)

Rejfyl:

--- Quote from: Haraldx on August 24, 2010, 12:11:19 PM ---You recieve no cooldowns, but don't get exp for using your skills (includes crafting) :P Now thats a real trait!

Concerning about Fast Shot, I heard they wanna remove it because all biggunners use it. Well then why don't we remove Finnese? All critical snipers use it, remove it...

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Not all snipers are using finnese, because this trait has a big disadvantage - lower damage. And current fast shot has no disadvantages at all for a big gunner character.


--- Quote ---why don't we remove More Criticals perk? All critical snipers use it, remove it... Why don't we remove SG skill? All critical snipers use it... Why don't we remove Big guns skill? All BGs use it, remove it. Now, the game is now balanced - we have almost no perks, almost no skills, and almost no traits, but the game is balanced :) Play happy.

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blah blah blah :P

avv:

--- Quote from: Haraldx on August 24, 2010, 12:11:19 PM ---Concerning about Fast Shot, I heard they wanna remove it because all biggunners use it. Well then why don't we remove Finnese? All critical snipers use it, remove it... why don't we remove More Criticals perk? All critical snipers use it, remove it... Why don't we remove SG skill? All critical snipers use it... Why don't we remove Big guns skill? All BGs use it, remove it. Now, the game is now balanced - we have almost no perks, almost no skills, and almost no traits, but the game is balanced :) Play happy.
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Well let's. Basically all perks that increase your fighting effectivity add to the imbalance. If everyone was equal in terms of character builds, the pvp would be reliant on player's skills not their characters'.

RavenousRat:

--- Quote from: Haraldx on August 24, 2010, 12:11:19 PM ---Well then why don't we remove Finnese?

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;p
Finesse sux, with this trait:
You have additional 4 LK if you shooting eyes.
6.25 LK if you shooting head.
8.25 LK if you shooting groin or arms.
12.5 LK if you shooting legs.
10 LK if you shooting torso.
Also this trait means your target always has Psycho, which adds also DR to explosion, laser and plasma.
And if your target really has Psycho or alteast any armor, then you'll deal no damage, untill you bypass armor.
As you can see this trait excellent for arms and legs, so if you're pure crippler who simply want to cripple all hands and legs of your target redardless of damage, then it's your trait.
I'm finesse and almost always bypass armor when shooting someone at BH at hands, weapon always droped and usually hand is crippled.
With 14mm Pistol I deal from 20 to 40 damage with armor bypass at hands.
I have Better Critical perk and x3 More Critical.
Shooting in the eyes or head, finesse won't give much difference.
I regret that I took Finesse trait, so I have to shoot arms to take any advantage from this trait.
So: if your character has Finesse trait it means forget about bursts and your arm/leg shooting will have almost the same %critical as head/eye, allowing you to cripple more often.
At one event this trait saved my life like 4 times, when after killing all critters FFA started, I was camping in a room, and 4 others wanted to kill me, these morons were running in one by one, not all together, so I was simply shooting thier hands and then picking up thier avengers and sniper rifles until I had max carry capacity, after that I tried to run away and they killed me, because dead critters had 10k avengers and bazookas laying everywhere, so Finesse was useless there.
In 1v1 without miniguns laying everywhere this is excellent trait. *And without current bug, when you picking up someone's gun and then your client crash. **And without "G" button auto clicker allowing you to instantly pick up droped weapon.
But usually it's 1v5 or 1v6, then this trait is useless, but don't worry, 1v5 and 1v6 none trait will help, but dynamite, jet and minigun with only x120 ammo, because you don't need more.

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