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Karma and Selective Permadeath

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Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: JovankaB on August 10, 2010, 03:52:48 pm ---How about you read it again and try to understand what I wrote? Hint: point 2c.

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Ah, yes I must've missed that, my bad.  

But other than that, we're still forgetting these towns are ungaurded, not to mention we're already losing karma from attacking a player, why must we suddenly get perma death for attacking a player?  Your punishing us for playing the game, and please no one pull that "Well your punishng players by constantly killing them" crap, they're not getting their friggin entire accounts deleted now are they?  Just a couple items missing. And while remember we're ALSO LOSING KARMA, which will eventually lead to the town constantly trying to mob the shit out of people who pvp in towns, which is punishment enough no?  Either waste half a fucking ammo dump's worth of ammo to halt the mob from killing you or run.

JovankaB:
You are losing REPUTATION not karma. Karma is a different thing.

It's not punishing, it's making the game less quake-like and more fallout-like. Currently there is very little risk with attacking others, so there is plenty of 21 level people runing naked with hunting rifles, shooting bluesuits etc. because death means nothing for them. Remember it would be just 120 seconds of potential permadeath if you kill someone with one shot. It would mean if you kill someone, you have to hide, run away from town if you want to be safe. It makes sense and maybe would make more people coming to towns.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: JovankaB on August 10, 2010, 04:03:22 pm ---You are losing REPUTATION not karma. Karma is a different thing.

It's not punishing, it's making the game less quake-like and more fallout-like. Currently there is very little risk with attacking others, so there is plenty of 21 level people runing naked with hunting rifles, shooting bluesuits etc. because death means nothing for them. Remember it would be just 90 seconds of potential permadeath. It would mean if you kill someone, you have to hide, run away from town if you want to be safe.

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Karma and reputation are practically the same thing, You keep doing bad things to people, people will come after your ass....  Its just reputation deals with specific communities.

JovankaB:
First of all there is no karma currently. Karma would be global and only for PvP behavior. Maybe you should read my post again. Low karma doesn't mean you have permadeath. Permadeath timeout would be only for a short timeout right after your karma drops. It would make attacking random people more risky but possible.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: JovankaB on August 10, 2010, 04:07:59 pm ---Maybe you should read my post again. Low karma doesn't mean you have permadeath. Permadeath timeout would be only for a short timeout right after your karma drops.

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I am well aware, I'm saying that with your suggestion about killing other players in towns causes our karma to drop steadily, isn't that punishment enough to hav an entire mob constantly chasing you? (WHICH I WIL AGREE NEEDS IMPLEMENTATION!!! badly...)  I just don't think shooting another player (In a specifically titled, "ungaurded" town, should make you viable for permadeath whatsoever.

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