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[CLOSED] Start at level 21

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Zak Blayde:
Ok, I think I was wrong puting the fault to the level 1 start. The real problem is that the leveling process cut the multiplayers interractions greatly, because it got stucked at a solo conception of leveling. Nearly every MMORPG made this fault.

Adding more quests could make the leveling "less unfun", but the cut in interactions would be the same. Group quests are a false solution, because it gets the interactions at the level of a multiplayers RPG, not a massively multiplayer one.

Some MMORPG partially avoid the problem by changing the way of leveling. In EVE Online, the leveling process is made by skills selectioning that are upgraded through IG and IRL time. Like an upgrading plan.
In Ultima Online, the upgrading was made by using skills. Unlike Dungeons and Dragons original system, you don't win experience points by achieving monsters and quests, every movement using a skill contributes to upgrade it.
This way, you are not condemned to isolate yourself to level, your battle interactions with other players upgrade your skills too.
In a NeverWinter Nights 2 server I was on, talking (Role Playing communication) was making the player gaining experience points.

These are some ways to keep a leveling system without cuting the interactive experience.

I think the real way to keep interactions between players is to promote Role Playing actions. By Role Playing actions, I mean all actions that have a long term influence to the world.

We call MMORPG worlds "persistent" and this caracteristic is the main interesting thing about them.

I think instead of starting to level 21, the leveling system should evolve to something more inovative and MM oriented.

Floodnik:

--- Quote from: Zak Blayde on August 10, 2010, 06:23:02 pm ---In a NeverWinter Nights 2 server I was on, talking (Role Playing communication) was making the player gaining experience points.

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Man, this is brilliant! I'd love to see that. Imagine... People specialized in bartening, speaking, transporting people would finally find a good, RPG-style way to level up their characters. They don't exist to kill. They could level up by doing their actual job.
Finding a way to make it working would be hard, though :P Like checking, if the sentence makes sense, if you are actually talking to someone and you don't spam... Never gonna happen :(

Zak Blayde:
It worked on the NWN2 server, but I don't know how. First they were moderators, and I think they were some scripted rules that check the good way to use the dialog system. But it's clear that some ones tried and would try here to abuse the system.

gordulan:
I can think of at least 100 people who would abuse the living shit out of it... In this community...

Zak Blayde:
I figured out the leveling wasn't the problem. The problem is that currently, the leveling means using non massively multiplayers gameplay mechanics, like PvE or quests.

There is no point to remove PvE or quests become some players like it, but we should find new ways of leveling, more in accord with a MMOG.

This topic can be closed to avoid useless discussion.

I might create a new topic "Find new ways of leveling".

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