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[Baptiste]

Does Str need to be above 4 for any special reason? Small Guns don't require more iirc.

[John Hancock]

Does Str need to be above 4 for any special reason? Small Guns don't require more iirc.

Small Gunsmith 3 requires 5 STR, and so do some rifles.

Anyway, regarding further comments since yesterday, I've already made the character with AGI 10 and IN 8, and also Survivalist instead of Awareness. It probably won't be perfect, but that's all right. Thank you for the perk suggestions, I'll definitely keep them in mind.

As for First Aid... I might try to get that to 100, but then maybe I'm better off stocking up on Stimpaks, even if they aren't free. Needless to say, if the PvE I'm doing at higher levels isn't lucrative enough to justify the use of a few Stimpaks, it's probably not worth doing anyway except for XP.

[Baptiste]

I'm under the assumption that you can trick the SG3 NPC by using Buffout.  Unless that has been fixed in a patch and I've not read an update post for it.

If it has been patched, then the 'how to make your first character' stickies really need updating, because they lead you to take 4str for a Small Guns build.

[gordulan]

nope, an SMG burster needs 4 str, but a sniper needs 5 str, almost every single two handed small gun needs 5 strength to be used efficiently.

[Baptiste]

Well, I took One Handed, for better or worse, so I am ok and aiming for the .223 pistol.

Is that a 'no' to using Buffout to get SG3 craft also?

[Ganado]

Well, I took One Handed, for better or worse, so I am ok and aiming for the .223 pistol.

Is that a 'no' to using Buffout to get SG3 craft also?

Buffout will work to raise your special points in order to get professions, yes.

[Baptiste]

Phew, I don't have to reroll   Thanks.

[gordulan]

well, you need 5 strength to use the .223 pistol... the 14mm pistol needs 4, the other pistols need 3...

[Baptiste]

well, you need 5 strength to use the .223 pistol... the 14mm pistol needs 4, the other pistols need 3...

Oh dear, I'll have to take +1Str Perk just to use a viable gun.. Baptiste is consigned to being a SG crafter I think.

[Crazy]

Oh dear, I'll have to take +1Str Perk just to use a viable gun.. Baptiste is consigned to being a SG crafter I think.

There is still weapon handling.

[gordulan]

weapon handling don't get you no extra carry weight, always useful for carrying materials, maybe next build I'll do I'll try out a 3str weapons handling character, will save me 2 stat points which I can put into other places, more important places...

[Michaelh139]

weapon handling don't get you no extra carry weight, always useful for carrying materials, maybe next build I'll do I'll try out a 3str weapons handling character, will save me 2 stat points which I can put into other places, more important places...

Be sure to have big Endurance tho because usng guns that are too heavy even with the perk causes u to crit fail alot and apparently endurance helps prevent this

[gordulan]

ahum, weapons handling, please read...

[Michaelh139]

ahum, weapons handling, please read...

I have... I have also read where Roacher who took weapon handling and had plenty strength for the laser rifle but he was told because he had very low endurance he had alot of critical fails where it the guns would constantly blow up or some shit.