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[Ned Logan]

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/XL70E3

Increase single shot range to something between 45 and 48, and damage to 12-25, so it is better than assault rifle(12-21; range: 42), but worse than sniper rifle (14-34; range: 50).
This would make it a versatile weapon for lone snipers who could use burst mode when surrounded by enemies, actually making it worth using at all.
For burst P90 would still be better because it fires 12 bullets, not 8, and costs 1 AP less...

[Winston Wolf]

Yeah. It's kinda ridiculous that an Avenger has a higher range than a rifle with a scope.

[kraskish]

Yeah I also suggested that once. Its underpowered gun for its requirements.

[Quentin Lang]

Yeah I also suggested that once. Its underpowered gun for its requirements.

Indeed, just like the M60.

[Haraldx]

I'm all for!

[Badger]

I can't think of a good reason not to. While we're at it, can anyone think of any other guns that nobody ever uses - in neither PvP nor solo?

[GroeneAppel]

Agreed, this weapon needs a serious buff.
Its a tier 3 weapon yet the assault rifle is far better.

[Quentin Lang]

I can't think of a good reason not to. While we're at it, can anyone think of any other guns that nobody ever uses - in neither PvP nor solo?

Well, if i follow 'nobody ''ever'' uses' then theres no list, but imo generally the ''least used guns'' are
-XL70E3
-M60
-shotgun
-sawed-off shotgun
-pancor jackhammer
-tommy gun

Thats my guess.

[Badger]

Hmm, what about the energy pistols?

[GroeneAppel]

Well, if i follow 'nobody ''ever'' uses' then theres no list, but imo generally the ''least used guns'' are
-XL70E3
-M60
-shotgun
-sawed-off shotgun
-pancor jackhammer
-tommy gun

Thats my guess.

scratch the jackhammer, CAWS and Jackhammer are perfect for Pve, and Jackhammer can be used properly when fighting close quarters (though no one uses it since there are better alternatives) Shotguns are newbie weapons, and are fine.
There is a discussion thread about the tommy gun out there, they aren't going to change it I think.
M60 needs a buff yes, ammo wise.

Hmm, what about the energy pistols?

Cheap starter weapon for EW builds. And pretty deadly to, dont underestimate it. the range is supreme for a pistol, same for damage. But its pretty bad for fast shot people though, but then again, who takes fast shot with EW?
I use it myself to troll with if I want to, or if i need cheap protection. Also it's a great crippler weapon, since it has great range and low ap usage. Heck I could say its the best crippler weapon out there, though you will never damage your enemies if you take finesse along with it.

[Quentin Lang]

Hmm, what about the energy pistols?

All energy weapons are good. Laser pistol is very good in PvE, especially leveling on high-xp encounters. AFAIK laser has different crit tables (better), and (maybe a coincidence) i, when lvling EW sniper, use laser pistol, not plasma pistol because it scores big crits and instakills alot more often. Plasma pistol aint bad either tho, large guaranteed damage, you dont have to rely on crits that much. Well, laser rifle is pretty much the backbone of EW and plasma rifle, altought sucky range, i guess aint bad either.

[Crazy]

All energy weapons are good. Laser pistol is very good in PvE, especially leveling on high-xp encounters. AFAIK laser has different crit tables (better), and (maybe a coincidence) i, when lvling EW sniper, use laser pistol, not plasma pistol because it scores big crits and instakills alot more often. Plasma pistol aint bad either tho, large guaranteed damage, you dont have to rely on crits that much. Well, laser rifle is pretty much the backbone of EW and plasma rifle, altought sucky range, i guess aint bad either.

Plasma rifle lost a bit his interest because it don't have a critical table as good as laser, but you can still deal good damage.

[Lordus]

i am against, because "small guns have to be weak and ugly" (devs)

[gordulan]

and yet, the assault rifle was upgraded.

[Nikey646]

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/XL70E3

Increase single shot range to something between 45 and 48, and damage to 12-25, so it is better than assault rifle(12-21; range: 42), but worse than sniper rifle (14-34; range: 50).
This would make it a versatile weapon for lone snipers who could use burst mode when surrounded by enemies, actually making it worth using at all.
For burst P90 would still be better because it fires 12 bullets, not 8, and costs 1 AP less...

P90 Uses Enough Ammo already, and yea, i agree with the XK70E3, but no one really makes it, because it requires so much...