Other > Closed suggestions
GM abuse counteraction, GM activity to be made transparent
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 19, 2010, 05:17:03 pm ---If you keep spamming gang-related stuff and insults which has nothing to do with this thread I lock it.
So, please behave a bit.
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How about cleaning it up instead since there's still legit discussion going on? I mean, does a thread have to be locked only because some people wish to ruin it because it disrupts their agenda? There are still a few things that need clarification here, and I think it's better to do it in public than behind the scenes. Please note that the people who recently did the provoking (Pozzo, RJ) didn't really participate in the discussion up to this point. Don't let the trolls win.
LeMark:
Watching GM is the Dev duty not our.
RJ:
So Nice Boat you want to tell me that if I don't post every 10 minutes it means I can't have my own opinion and tell you what I think about your suggestion? That I don't post doesn't mean that I don't read your posts in this topic. Also you are very quick on making this thing going as you want to close this suggestion with final thoughts after 2 days. Very hasty as for so important issue.
When it comes to "Trollgore" it was pretty good mental abbreviation seeing how Kilgore provoked situation with Jovanka (no need to mention his other merits in game, forum and IRC). If you have doubts you can check definition of trolling. Calling me RedJerk was just double insult - nothing more.
Pozzo:
--- Quote ---Please note that the people who recently did the provoking (Pozzo, RJ) didn't really participate in the discussion up to this point
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Yep maybe I trolled a bit but at the beginning my opinion about the thread was : we don't need a policy for GMs.
I wanted to take the problem from the beginning, pointing that in this kind of community players should not everyday point the finger up to the GMs and think about their own behavior. I Think that in every game the staff is the mirror of the community. I don't know if you really have proofs of what you say but I think that if players are immatures so GMs will act like watchmen and you will always feel paranoiac.
Ok I don't give my opinion about your propositions but I don't care about they and I give my own solution : be mature so the community will be so the GMs will be able to do their real job.
HertogJan:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on July 19, 2010, 04:42:02 pm ---Player abuse is not the subject here and actually has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Moreover, the Devs must think it's not a hilarious joke if they agreed to appointing me for the function if the community agrees. Now, I'm a man of compromise, so I won't even propose such a thing and I don't think it'd be right, but I think that all the gangs could agree to a solution in which they all have one man inside. And honestly, even if we all were the greatest cheaters in gaming history, having us watch each other would amount to what we all ultimately want - no abuse, no exploits, everything fair and square.
I'm not that serious, it's just that I take this game on a competitive level because it doesn't really offer much more after you play it for a while. Many people with a few months of experience feel the same, and sustaining a situation in which GMs can act on a whim without any supervision is ultimately going to scare them away. Saying that it's a non-commercial game changes nothing - being non-commercial doesn't mean it has to be bad and use bad solutions when it comes to this aspect. Furthermore, the Devs don't have anything against this idea - for their own reasons (and I'm quite sure they're well founded) they don't want the logs to be made public, that's all.
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Player abuse and cheating has everything to do with this the moment you suggest such players need to be rewarded with some level of control.
I don't know any game where such bad behavior is rewarded and I don't see any reason it should be done here.
All the gangs agreeing to having someone inside?
You mean only the big gangs, leaving out the smaller gangs and the people not in gangs.
Bad idea as your suggestions will ultimately result in making the game less attractive for new players.
On most servers GM or whatever you call them dealing with daily issues aren't under continious supervision.
In the cases they are, they certainly aren't under the supervision of the people they are supposed to help and supervise.
For some weird reason it doesn't scare people away because players know they are the lowest in the hierarchy on a server.
This game being commercial or not has nothing to do with it.
As for the devs, with whom you apparently already have been talking about this outside this thread, I prefer to hear things from them instead of hearsay from you.
As for continuation of this thread, you yourself are partly responsible for it's degredation.
No offense to you, but you more and more start to sound like a small child crying and stamping it's feet on the ground in order to get what it wants.
As I said above, bad behavior should not be rewarded in anyway.
If there should be a supervisor (which I think there's no need for) it should be someone who's in no way tied to any of the major gangs.
People who have and never had any ties to the major gangs, also have no prejudice towards them and most likely also not towards the GMs coming from them.
Like you, I'm not in for such a (probably ungrateful) job.
I think GMs are doing fine and you blow things out of proportion.
--- Quote from: Pozzo on July 19, 2010, 08:21:54 pm ---Yep maybe I trolled a bit but at the beginning my opinion about the thread was : we don't need a policy for GMs.
I wanted to take the problem from the beginning, pointing that in this kind of community players should not everyday point the finger up to the GMs and think about their own behavior. I Think that in every game the staff is the mirror of the community. I don't know if you really have proofs of what you say but I think that if players are immatures so GMs will act like watchmen and you will always feel paranoiac.
Ok I don't give my opinion about your propositions but I don't care about they and I give my own solution : be mature so the community will be so the GMs will be able to do their real job.
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There's 1 policy which fits us all: behave and respect other people
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