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Should they include a beginner's protection when you start off?

No
Yes, but only for a week.
Yes, but can be cancelled by the player.
Yes, but only up to a certain level.
A mixture of the above 'Yes' options

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Wichura

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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 09:19:10 am »

where no armor is in the shop
I suggest move out of NCR a bit south, to Hub, and visit Jacob at Old Town. If you can't find any armor there, I'll give you 5 of LA Mk2 for free.
PKrs have a heaven right now and I think devs have all lvls 21 :p
PKrs have a heaven anytime they can shoot to pixels, and having 21 lvl is not impossible, even if you play casual, once-twice per week.
Just I dont know what other MMO is like that. Or we preserve "being different" policy :p.
That's because Fallout is unique. Enough said.
The gameplay is ok for lvl 21 but thats not the same for starting ones. If lvl 21's could have their boosted hp npcs because it was too booring why cant some lower lvl group have easier life as well?
Again - move from NCR, it's not Wasteland SimCity.
You can easily find low-hp NPCs anywhere. And there is no diminishing XP from long time now, so gaining experience is easier.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 10:47:55 am »

I find it stupid some people that say "they should get used to it the wasteland is harsh" but think about how many people have thought 'fuck this game , I cant be assed to play a game where I die every few minutes' which is what i have heard from a lot of people, but instead of a protection I have came up with another idea that doesn't make invulnerable newbies or give advantages to them. A simple tutorial at the beginning would give a world of help, and yes I know theres a manual but with most games a tutorial helps a lot more as you are getting experience from the game rather than words on a piece of paper. So then I truly think a tutorial at the beginning as now I have begun to estabilish myself. But I didn't even know about a tent until I saw on the forums and by god it didn't even have any hint of how to make it as not in a million years would i have guessed how to make it. So yet again the forums came to the rescue. But this could be cleared up with a simple tutorial. Now the comments of 'The Wasteland is harsh. Get used to it', No actually for most players it is 'I don't have a clue how to play this or what to do. Let's go over here. Oh look someone called ******. BANG. And your dead within a minute of starting.'
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 10:50:49 am »

I find it stupid some people that say "they should get used to it the wasteland is harsh" but think about how many people have thought 'fuck this game , I cant be assed to play a game where I die every few minutes' which is what i have heard from a lot of people, but instead of a protection I have came up with another idea that doesn't make invulnerable newbies or give advantages to them. A simple tutorial at the beginning would give a world of help, and yes I know theres a manual but with most games a tutorial helps a lot more as you are getting experience from the game rather than words on a piece of paper. So then I truly think a tutorial at the beginning as now I have begun to estabilish myself. But I didn't even know about a tent until I saw on the forums and by god it didn't even have any hint of how to make it as not in a million years would i have guessed how to make it. So yet again the forums came to the rescue. But this could be cleared up with a simple tutorial. Now the comments of 'The Wasteland is harsh. Get used to it', No actually for most players it is 'I don't have a clue how to play this or what to do. Let's go over here. Oh look someone called ******. BANG. And your dead within a minute of starting.'

Check the wiki.  When I started playing, I got started rather quickly.  Dying is just a learning experience every time.  Just trudge through it, and you'll feel a sense of achievement having gotten where you are without being babied.  And then you will say to the noobs, "The wasteland is harsh, get used to it."
I think the system is perfect as it is.
If you want information, you have to seek it out yourself instead of having it spoon-fed to you.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 11:03:59 am »

No I know that it's that a tutorial would help people get used to game. Instead of doing what I had to do which was OMG what's this click on forums search oh its nothing of use to me. Yes I have left behind my noobish remnants as I have now estabilished myself. however I am still not going to turn around to noobs and say ' The wasteland is harsh' as it's not the wasteland it's the interface of the game as it gives no help at all you have to either learn the controls and how to play fast otherwise you're a dead man. It's not the wasteland anyway i've set up a new poll for a tutorial to help at the beginning so i will have this thread closed shortly.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 08:46:26 pm »

Check the wiki.  When I started playing, I got started rather quickly.  Dying is just a learning experience every time.  Just trudge through it, and you'll feel a sense of achievement having gotten where you are without being babied.  And then you will say to the noobs, "The wasteland is harsh, get used to it."
I think the system is perfect as it is.
If you want information, you have to seek it out yourself instead of having it spoon-fed to you.
Keeps most teh lil kids out ;D.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2010, 01:09:52 am »

Keeps most people out ;D.

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shouldn't have to alt+tab to a website to know what to do in a game.. and then of course read "wasteland is harsh, get used to it or don't play" most people choose the second option after losing all their items to a pker, bomber, glitched guard, marauders or thief
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2010, 02:13:26 am »

What ever happened to asking players in-game what to do?  Most people will be happy to oblige and give you information or even some items if you're new.  Worked well for me.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2010, 02:41:27 am »

What ever happened to asking players in-game what to do?  Most people will be happy to oblige and give you information or even some items if you're new.  Worked well for me.
All I ever got was a free mauser....

But thats because I had too much pride too ask  ::), I wanted to prove I could survive in the wasteland.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2010, 07:17:46 pm »

Well a possible fix for noobs is to make a starter quest so noobs can get their first tent. Since game is full loot, having that first tent is very impt. From personal experience when I started playing Fonline, I died alot, made new chars, and they also died fast. Some chars got lucky and looted radio, guns, caps, but died and lost them all cuz lvl 1 char running around u dont survive. Even if u go to the guarded towns, thief's, sucide bombers etc.. will get u killed.

After 2 weeks of senseless dying, I got my tent now the game is easier and more enjoyable.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2010, 07:42:11 pm »

No.
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Re: Beginner's Protection
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2010, 02:00:43 am »

I'm sick of these whiners.  The challenge at the beginning is what made this game so fun for me.  Knowing that I wans't protected and that I could be killed by damn near anything.  The challenge was great.
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