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Author Topic: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?  (Read 6791 times)

Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« on: June 23, 2010, 08:01:06 pm »

Just wanted a dev to confirm the % as a lot of players don't know this.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 08:15:52 pm »

It adds, (60% + 4*Luck)/100*Aim bonus (The old Aim bonus from Fallout)

Aim Bonus is
60% Eyes
40% Head
30% Groin
30% Arms
20% Legs
0% Torso
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 08:17:20 pm »

Thanks for the info!

Might I suggest adding an entry on the wiki containing the critical table?

Unless it is already there and my search-fu utterly fails (seems more likely, but my rep was never an issue to start with :D)

Edit: Um, indulge my low intellect score... Doesn't the aim bonus being featured in the denominator -decrease- the bonus itself?

Unless there's a missing parenthasis there and the formula is ((60% + 4*L)/100)*Aim Bonus?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 08:22:05 pm by Sheepify »
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 08:21:37 pm »

Thanks for the info!

Might I suggest adding an entry on the wiki containing the critical table?

Unless it is already there and my search-fu utterly fails (seems more likely, but my rep was never an issue to start with :D)

I don't think they will share the critical table with their players, but we can still hope ;p.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 08:30:01 pm »

It adds, (60% + 4*Luck)/100*Aim bonus (The old Aim bonus from Fallout)

Aim Bonus is
60% Eyes
40% Head
30% Groin
30% Arms
20% Legs
0% Torso


Thank you for sharing this. But why does Torso have no aimed bonus chance? It still takes the extra AP to aim a the torso, so I think it should get some sort of chance, but whatever. I guess it's fine.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 08:34:32 pm »

The extra critical chance is the same as the penalty to hit, there is no extra penalty to hit, so theres no bonus to crit. Extra AP can be explained by you still getting a bonus from a critical to the Torso.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 09:13:33 pm »

And how "Critical chance" affects this formula? More critical perks and Finesse trait.

(60% + 4*Luck)/100*Aim bonus+Critical chance?

I mean, LK10, x3 more critical. 10+3x5=25%

Eyes:
(60+40)/100*60=60%
60%+25%=85%?
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 09:31:42 pm »

Thats correct
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 09:49:02 pm »

And how "Critical chance" affects this formula? More critical perks and Finesse trait.

(60% + 4*Luck)/100*Aim bonus+Critical chance?

I mean, LK10, x3 more critical. 10+3x5=25%

Eyes:
(60+40)/100*60=60%
60%+25%=85%?

wow wow, slow down can some explain it to me in simple language? You have 85% crit chance when aiming eyes with such char?
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 09:51:16 pm »

wow wow, slow down can some explain it to me in simple language? You have 85% crit chance when aiming eyes with such char?
Well.. it's obvious ;p
All you need is you LK and Critical Chance.
Then input LK in a formula and then add your Critical Chance to result.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 12:44:28 am »

35% chance (10 Luck + 3x More Critical + Finesse) gets you 95% chance :D
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 12:50:56 am »

35% chance (10 Luck + 3x More Critical + Finesse) gets you 95% chance :D

or 35% chance (10 Luck + Haymaker + Finesse) gets you 95% chance
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 03:46:09 pm »

Wow guys Im amazed... making a Lucky sniper :D

Another question related...Are crits without finesse stronger than crits with finesse?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2010, 06:54:03 pm by kraskish »
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 07:05:20 pm »

Are crits without finesse stronger than crits with finesse?
Without finesse stronger...
Because the only thing that doing Finesse is increasing your critical chance on 10%, but increasing DR of a target on 30%.

With Finesse you'll crit more often, but damage always will be lower.

Finesse is must-have for cripplers, who don't care about damage, because hands have low critical multiplier, so Finesse gives alot advantage.

If you want to do damage, then don't pick Finesse.
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Re: Eyeshots add 30% chance to crit right?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 07:11:02 pm »

Without finesse stronger...
Because the only thing that doing Finesse is increasing your critical chance on 10%, but increasing DR of a target on 30%.

With Finesse you'll crit more often, but damage always will be lower.

Finesse is must-have for cripplers, who don't care about damage, because hands have low critical multiplier, so Finesse gives alot advantage.

If you want to do damage, then don't pick Finesse.

eyeshots almost always do full damage
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