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[Tomowolf]

Make pipe or what i say one shoot rifle craftable and make more range (like more than revolver about 5 or This should be the main first weapon of low lvl players and they can grid with it .(Also i want to get zip gun craftable , the apocalytpic world don't have good guns for start hell yeah


BTW this is not suggestion minded in 15 seconds .

[Jeoshua]

You know, I always did wonder why I could craft a german mauser 9mm pistol without knowing anything about weapons, but yet I couldn't make a pipe rifle.

[Kardia]

And pipe rifle can be even dangerous! powder gangs atleast can occasionally do decent crits with those, and nothing more shameful than getting killed by someone with pipe rifle.

[Jeoshua]

There is slightly more insulting: a regular bb gun as opposed to the red ryder.

So I think these two weapons: The Pipe Rifle and the REGULAR BB Gun should be craftable without any kind of Small Guns building Profession.  Level 1 should let you make a Red Ryder and actual guns... but take that silly 9mm mauser off the list of items anyone can craft... that's just silly.

[Tomowolf]

Kardia don't be silly don't say there if you re Big uber pr0 big gunner build or small framed uber pr0 snipah !!111oneone
Just i want to add that pipe rifle should be used by newbies and should make damage like 10mm pistol or less and have more range .
That would be a new first weapon for small levels

[kraskish]

+1 should be craftable without gunsmith dmg lower, like mauser but bigger range

[gordulan]

i'd prefer the 10mm pistol damage, unless the caliber will be scaled down to 9mm, then i could go for a bit higher damage than the mauser...

[Sephis]

requirements, one junk one wood?  requires small arms 40% sounds plenty fair to me.

[gordulan]

well, if it's going to have shitty damage, one can throw in the accurate (+20% CtH) weapon perk if it is gonna be a noob weapon.

[Roachor]

The best thing you can do with a pipe rifle is use science on it for the 20 xp

[Sheepify]

This would definitely help starting characters, given the all-too easy ways of losing equipment early on.

From what I recall of original Fallout, the stats on a Pipe Rifle weren't exactly spectacular, but at least it is something with the ability to trade sheer damage for range (which I would consider particularly important a distinction for early level characters).

Please add another (however insignificant) voice in support of the notion

[gordulan]

actually, newly created characters don't nee range, they need as much raw damage output as possible, and throw in some acuracy perks on top of that

[Sheepify]

actually, newly created characters don't nee range, they need as much raw damage output as possible, and throw in some acuracy perks on top of that

I'll see your build, and raise you mine?

It's about options, and something that I do not see as greatly impacting the already existing mechanics. Thus, could only help (until somebody comes up with an idea to abuse it, but that's another subject altogether )

[gordulan]

ah, my current build is as follows, i'd gladly receive some criticism on it.
Lv 10
S 5
P 10
E 4
C 1
I 7
A 8
L 6
Traits:
1. Good Natured
2. Small Frame
Perks:
1. Awareness
2. More Crits
3. Sharpshooter
4. (planned) Lifegiver
5. Better Crits
6. More Crits
7. Not sure, either more crits or action boy, or BRoF

Tagged Skills: Current Skill Levels
Small Guns: 184%
Unarmed: 100%
Outdoors: 42%

Personally i'm testing out a Solo Combat Build, which can't lose ridiculously easily to a sniper powerbuild. So far it is a success, i can snipe most things in the eyes easily, but prefer to go for the arms and legs first.

[Kardia]

Kardia don't be silly don't say there if you re Big uber pr0 big gunner build or small framed uber pr0 snipah !!111oneone
Just i want to add that pipe rifle should be used by newbies and should make damage like 10mm pistol or less and have more range .
That would be a new first weapon for small levels

Yeah,i was supporting the idea also actually but guess i just wrote it wrong :p
ohh yeah and im an slaver, not snipah or big guns xD